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Rollback

Hello to anyone concerned.

I am requesting rollbacker rights, having done so before without the knowledge of having to warn users after undoing their edits, and I believe I now have a substantial track record of doing so ever since promising to fulfill that role. I now also have a good idea of how to use tools such as Twinkle effectively, which have greatly helped my work against vandalism.

Thanks for taking your time to read my request. Best regards, Vasil3fonov (talk) 16:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Automated comment This user has had 1 request for rollback declined in the past 90 days ([1]). MusikBot talk 17:00, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are still consistently failing to notify editors when you revert their edits (e.g. 1, 2, 3). Why? It's important to leave a notification for every revert you make. Are you aware that we have tools such as Twinkle or Ultraviolet that make this extremely easy? -Fastily 09:43, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The three sole examples of me not doing it from the past month and a half, which you are referring to, are the same single person, making the same changes over and over to player statistics tables through different IPs for the past 12+ months. I looked up different pages that match the categories of the ones I've undone, and the user has been warned multiple times, to no effect, making the same edit again and again. They then stop editing from that IP and start doing the same exact edits from a new one. They have been warned multiple times by multiple users for the exact same edit yet still repeatedly undo other users' work without any explanation when they are clearly in the wrong. Examples of this are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, etc., etc.; some of those edits were way over a year ago, and I am only referencing the ones that the user has been warned for (there are thousands of other such cases from tens, if not hundreds of different IPs) that they haven't been warned for by users who revert their edits. In this case, I have decided that reaching out to the user is futile and I believe that in such extreme examples, that should be an option. What is the point of a warning the user when it is clearly proven that they will keep doing it from new IPs and never read the original talk page anyway?
I have not failed to warn a single other user for the time period since I had promised to do so, which I believe is the whole point of rollback rights in the first place. I strongly believe that this specific, and definitely irregular, case is not sufficient to justify the denial of the rights. However, this is just my point of view on the topic and if you really believe that I am in the wrong and that I should repeatedly (and foolishly) warn the same user for the same thing that they will not stop doing, and expecting a different result, then maybe I do not really need rollback rights in the end if that is to be your final verdict.
Thanks, Vasil3fonov (talk) 11:31, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're clearly missing the point. The notifications aren't for you, they're of value to the patrolling admin and anyone interested in curtailing/tracking abuse. If you had tried the tools I linked above, you would know that notifying an editor takes a grand total of 3 clicks and 5 seconds. If that's still too much effort for you, then it's high time for you to explore other aspects of Wikipedia that don't involve counter-vandalism. The very fact that you spent more time to compose this nonsensical essay for the sake of argument strongly suggests to me that you are not ready for rollback. Nonetheless, I have reviewed your contributions since your previous request and you haven't made enough reverts for me to determine whether you'd be able to use rollback correctly. -Fastily 19:49, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, I can totally agree with the final sentence and I think that would've sufficed. I can't figure out how to use Twinkle and that's on my end. When I use the "rollback" or "vandalism" button, it just opens the user's talk page and I need to manually put in the specific warning template each time. That's more effort than you've pointed out and not something I'm willing to do in cases such as the one you've labelled "nonsensical". And now that I've mentioned the "case", that user is already reverting my reverts of their edits despite the issued warnings on their other IPs' talk pages, but I suppose that's not something that can be dealt with by any available tools to me or the admins.
And just to be clear, I wasn't arguing for the sake of it, I really do believe I've missed the point of rollback in general, so I will withdraw my request and won't submit one in the future. Vasil3fonov (talk) 20:46, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's not accurate. We have multiple avenues for dealing with long term abusers, namely WP:AIV, WP:SPI, WP:RFPP. According to your edit history, I see you've made a handful of requests to RFPP, a single edit to AIV, and no edits to SPI. I do suggest you try those first before throwing up your hands and proclaiming that all is lost. To be clear, I'm happy to grant you rollback if you can both demonstrate a need for it and understanding of how to use it appropriately. Apologies if I sounded harsh above. If you do decide to take up RecentChanges patrol, then I hope to see you back here. Closing as  Not done per your request. -Fastily 00:52, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will look into other ways to counter the issue then, thanks for the advice. And I see my previous mistake, it's definitely not your fault for replying in that way, so no offence taken. Cheers, Vasil3fonov (talk) 07:57, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi everyone, I'm 2RDD. I've been editing Wikipedia for a year now and have made over a thousand edits. I'm passionate about maintaining article quality and combating vandalism. I believe Rollbacker rights would help me make a bigger impact. I'm eager to take on this responsibility and contribute to our community's mission. Thanks for considering my request! Best, 2RDD (talk) 10:03, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Automated comment This user has had 1 request for rollback declined in the past 90 days ([2]). MusikBot talk 10:10, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done Sorry, but you have very little experience reverting vandalism. Please request when you have a track record of reverting vandalism. Malinaccier (talk) 13:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I would like to request for the rollback permission because I am engaged in rollback activities very much for some time. This permission would be very helpful and will make my Wiki activity very easier. Moreover, I am experienced enough with enough edits and edit time in Wikipedia. I have read everything about this tool and will abide by all the rules too.! Thanking you! TheProEditor11 (talk) 10:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC) TheProEditor11 (talk) 10:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done I reviewed your contributions and found little to no recent anti-vandalism work. If you're still interested in this tool then please spend at least a month actively patrolling RecentChanges (Twinkle & Ultraviolet can help with that) before reapplying. Also, please ensure that you are consistently warning editors when you revert their edits. Thanks, Fastily 19:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I would like access to rollback rights in order to use tools such as Huggle that require rollback rights. Most of my edits have been anti-vandalism work, and I feel that access to these tools would help me revert and warn more effectively. I would like to mention that there may be a few problems with my edits that anyone reviewing may bring up:

1. In my first few reverts (using only the built-in undo tool) before I was auto-confirmed, I did fail to notify some of the users I was reverting. This is mainly because I didn't yet have access to RedWarn, Twinkle, or Ultraviolet in order to warn users quickly. Secondly, I was not aware of the correct procedure to deal with Vandalism. Now, however, almost every revert has been using Ultraviolet or RedWarn and I have been giving warnings to every user. I believe I have a sufficient track record of doing this that you can see in my contribs. I have read all relevant procedures relating to Rollback and how to deal with Vandalism, including Wikipedia:Vandalism, Wikipedia:Rollback, Wikipedia:Reverting, as well as Wikipedia:Username policy. You can also see in my contribs that after I read the relevant procedures but before I was autoconfirmed, I manually warned some of the users that I was reverting.

2. I am applying slightly before I have one month of experience. If I need to reapply in two weeks or so, I will be happy to. However, I believe that my track record shows that a large majority of my reverts have been helpful and demonstrate good understanding of the policy as I've learned it.

Thanks TryAgainSooner (talk) 17:06, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Automated comment This user has 139 edits in the mainspace. MusikBot talk 17:10, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Request withdrawn Totally thought I had more main space edits/reverts. Will re-submit when I reach a month and around 250 main space edits. TryAgainSooner (talk) 17:55, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello i have Over 200 mainspace edits. Im patrolling Special:RecentChanges. i use Ultraviolet. i Don't have edit warring. i Meet Criteria for Rollback. 🌀TyphoonAmpil Tools 03:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done I noticed you started actively editing 2 weeks ago. While I appreciate your enthusiasm, I'd like to see you spend at least a month gaining experience editing Wikipedia before assigning you advanced permissions. Also, please ensure that you are consistently warning editors when you revert their edits (I recommend using tools such as Twinkle or Ultraviolet which makes this extremely easy). Thanks, Fastily 06:53, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]