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Please cut and paste nominations to be archived from the Picture peer review mainpage to the top of the appropriate archive page, creating a new archive (by nomination date) when necessary.

Original - Native American women from the Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs with beaded bags. Wasco County, Oregon, c. 1902

A representative photo featuring Native American craft, but needs some restoration, particularly the woman's head to the left. Brand[t] 18:49, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles this image appears in
Warm Springs Indian Reservation, Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs
Creator
Suggested by
Brand[t] 18:49, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Conclusion


Original - Edible seaweed farming in Nusa Lembongan, Bali, Indonesia (photo 2009)

Good photograph

Articles this image appears in
Seaweed
Creator
Jean-Marie Hullot also on en wiki Jmhullot (talk)
Suggested by
Snowman (talk) 11:54, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • I'd like to see some information in the caption about what specifically is being shown here. You could add it to Edible seaweed. The image quality is good enough. A little fill flash would have helped lighten the guy's face. I think a highlight reduction has been performed on the sky but the haloing is only minor. I'd say it has a good shot. Noodle snacks (talk) 01:15, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have added some details in the commons image description gleaned from the wiki article. It looks like she is picking seaweed shoots and collecting them in a basket floating on an inner-tube. Do you think is is reasonable to add this? I have also amended the caption. Snowman (talk) 11:54, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - Waterfalls near Mallwyd, Wales

It is simply a beautiful picutre that stands out on the Wales article and helps to both draw a person's attention and gives a good view of the Welsh country.

Articles this image appears in
Wales, Mallwyd
Creator
Tivedshambo|
Suggested by
Sbrianhicks (talk) 03:18, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Thanks for your suggestion. While this is of value to the article, it would not succeed at FPC. The quality is just not high enough. In particular the blown highlights are far too significant, especially in the sky, but also I believe in the water. This type of photo, even when high quality, tends to struggle a bit anyway as the falls themself do not appear that outstanding and there's no other clear landmarks, and thus they are commonly met with a response such as 'could be taken anywhere', a comment on the generic nature of the image, not a question of it actually being of where it claims. --jjron (talk) 13:40, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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important part of Eastern Bloc history and great composition.

Articles this image appears in
History of Poland, Lech Wałęsa, History of Poland (1989–present), People's Republic of Poland, Polish Round Table Agreement, Round table (furniture), History of Poland (1945–1989), History of Solidarity,
Creator
BaomoVW
Suggested by
Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 03:00, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - map from the Battle of Mount Sorrel, a minor First World War battle of June 1916.

I was surprised not to find a single WWI trench map amongst the FPs. There are a number in the commons that have had no restoration work done to them but are high resolution uploads. File:Battle of Messines - plannig map.jpg, File:Battle of the Canal du Nord - 1st Canadian Division planning map.jpeg, File:Battle of the Canal du Nord - battle map (Sept 1918).jpg, File:Battle of Hill 70 - local planning map.jpg, File:First Battle of Passchendaele - barrage map.jpg are a number of examples of higher resolution files for more notable battles. Seeking suggestions on which is a most appropriate as an FPC.

Articles this image appears in
Battle of Mount Sorrel
Creator
n.d.
Suggested by
Labattblueboy (talk) 21:57, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - Data plate of a preserved Bentley BR2 aero engine

A close-up of a 1917 aircraft engine data plate taken recently at a museum by myself. Would be interested on thoughts on this image, I tried to capture the essence of it.

Articles this image appears in
Bentley BR2
Creator
Nimbus227
Suggested by
Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 20:19, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • I love these old rotaries! I think it's a very attractive picture, the main technical problem being flash glare. I know shooting pieces in a dimly lit museum, often behind glass, is no easy thing. I suspect the best approach is to use a lens with a fast aperture, or one with good stabilization to allow you to get sharp pictures without the flash. As far as encyclopedic value, I think this image would struggle if nominated because people would want to see a wider view of the whole engine. Or, sometimes you can choose to focus on a single element of the engine, the crankshaft, pushrods, etc. The data plate is good to shoot for informational purposes, but is less interesting by itself, in my opinion. Hope that helps.Fletcher (talk) 05:19, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • It doesn't really have EV (encyclopaedic value) because we can't see the engine. Noodle snacks (talk) 02:58, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks folks, glad I came here first!! I have a fair collection of engine photos, very difficult to get the shot you want in museums sometimes. Gives me some pointers though, will have a look at some others. Cheers Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 20:22, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - Quiver tree (Aloe dichotoma) in Namibia
Edit1 with noise reduction to sky

good image

Articles this image appears in
Aloe dichotoma
Creator
Le Grand Portage
Suggested by
Snowman (talk) 15:00, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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I did several selective blurs to different regions of the sky. Should have left the tree alone (it was only the sky that bothered me). Fletcher (talk) 00:04, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominated at FPC. --jjron (talk) 13:41, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Original - Five soldiers silhouetted while on the march during the First World War Battle of Broodseinde

Ernest Brooks was one of the leading photographers of the First World War. Unlike many of the First World War photos this one is a high resolution scan and also happens to be one of Brooks' more famous images. The silhouetted contrast with the light shinning through the clouds is different from most war photography.

Articles this image appears in
Battle of Passchendaele, Battle of Broodseinde and Ernest Brooks (photographer)
Creator
Ernest Brooks
Suggested by
Labattblueboy (talk) 02:55, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Lovely shot, poor reproduction. A great pity, as the print looks to have been a good one, just not very well archived; it was reasonably well scanned, but compressed way too much. Repairing the dust and damage would be a real chore as it's hard to tell damage from jpeg artifact. An uncompressed version at this size might have been a potential candidate. Which brings me to the copyright situation: are we sure this is PD by virtue of being owned by the British government? mikaultalk 08:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think an uncompressed image will be available short of ordering a digital print from the IWM or NLS. The image will certainly be PD. The photo was under crown copyright as it was created while Brooks' was employed as the British official war photographer. --Labattblueboy (talk) 15:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Right, dim of me not to see the crown copyright. FWIW the image probably has enough value in its current state to nominate at WP:VP but the compression artifacts are certainly enough to scupper an FP candidacy. Looking at the source site, they're enough to ruin a detailed viewing there, too. I really don't understand the point of it in that context. mikaultalk 18:51, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I may consider getting a IWM to do a scan of the negative. If I do, I'll be back. --Labattblueboy (talk) 22:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The scan this jpeg was made from would do, probably still on file so a nicely-worded email might do the trick. If you get it, let me know and I'll fix it up ready for FPC for you. mikaultalk 00:27, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - Loggerhead Shrike in Texas, USA

Good photograph

Articles this image appears in
Loggerhead Shrike
Creator
Terry Ross
Suggested by
Snowman (talk) 15:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Striking as a thumbnail, with a great perch and nice neutral background and lighting, this is much less rewarding at full size. I guess it's been heavily cropped from the full 10MP frame and possibly underexposed/corrected, making for a noisy sky and grainy-looking dark areas. A real pity, as one of these issues could be partially fixed well-enough for FPC, but not both. mikaultalk 19:25, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I mean it looks unfixable to FPC standards; you could fix the background but on the bird you'd still have a grain/detail payoff to deal with that doesn't look fixable to me. mikaultalk 21:00, 7 December 2009 (UTC) <edit> Sorry, I should add this would probably pass at WP:VPICS as it is. mikaultalk 21:05, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • You could use a number of dedicated noise reduction programs – noise ninja or similar – but you'd only get good results by also using layers and masks in something like Photoshop, to selectively sharpen and soften the relevant parts. Personally, for an image like this, I think it's an affectation to go to such lengths. In print, there'd not be any grain... as it's way too small a file to make a print big enough to see it. As I say, it should pass at Valued Pictures as-is, maybe just a tiny crop from the left. mikaultalk 08:46, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think square images are the best shape for showing in gallerys, so I think I will leave it as a square. Snowman (talk) 15:08, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Crops don't bother me, agree that it looks like a tight crop. I don't think it would pass (FPC) on quality grounds. Noodle snacks (talk) 02:59, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for comments. I overestimated the possibilities to repair it to FP level. Snowman (talk) 12:01, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Getting close enough to get a featured shot of a wild bird reliably is quite difficult without very expensive equipment unfortunately. Noodle snacks (talk) 12:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original - The Dreamcast, Sega's last home console

Nice Resolution

Articles this image appears in
Sega, Dreamcast, History of video game consoles (sixth generation)
Creator
Asim18
Suggested by
Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 16:25, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
If you say so. ZooFari 19:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - A palomino Icelandic horse being ridden at a tolt

This is a gorgeous action shot of an Icelandic in a show ring. I've never nominated a picture for FP, so I would like to know if this image would have any chance?

Articles this image appears in
Icelandic horse
Creator
Taken by Dagur Brynjólfsson, uploaded by Pitke from Flikr
Suggested by
Dana boomer (talk) 23:21, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Probably problems with motion blur/softness and small size.
  • (edit conflict) Nice image. There are some flaws that might prevent successful nomination though. The horse is soft (not sharpened) and suffers blown highlights (overexposed areas) and it kind of seems like the face is out of focus. ZooFari 00:02, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's nice but I don't think it's nice enough for Featured... I sharpened it a bit so it might do for Valued, but I really have no idea of what they require. Pitke (talk) 08:51, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - the U2 plane image revealing missiles in Cuba, sparking the Cuban Missile Crisis.

One of the most important images in recent history. Despite small size, its irreplaceable, and critically important.

Articles this image appears in
Cuban Missile Crisis
Creator
The CIA
Suggested by
Nuclear Lunch Detected  Hungry? 18:06, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Small file size is kind of excusable, as despite the very large-format cameras used, it would have been taken from 60,000 feet or more and would have resolved only very slightly better detail than this on film. Considering the image placement at the moment and the fact that it isn't an iconic image in its own right, I'd say the "limited EV" comment was fair judgement. If it was the defining image of the crisis, it would be the lead image in the article. Placing it at Lockheed U2 or reconnaisance or other places where it also has relevance would increase EV, but not perhaps to FPC required levels. This is because it's not unique; another image of the same place (and better annotated) is already at the latter article and is not only more informative, it's clearly presented as the defining image of the U2 reconnaissance missions over Cuba. Interesting though, viz. my first point, that the higher resolution there doesn't yield any more information than your nomination here. mikaultalk 20:52, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disagree with ZooFari commentary about EV (which means Exposure Value (jggifys)) because this is an example of state of the art reconnaissance photography from the early 60's. The EV doesn't represent poor composition from the photography. Also disagree with MIckStephenson comment about the other image being of the same place, as it's not clear that it is. What this photo lacks is a source citation. Not sure where it's from, what day it was taken, which target it refers to, etc. Assertions that this is one of the most important images in recent history are unsupported by reference information. Jeffme (talk) 04:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - The Republican Guard of the national army of Kazakhstan

Don't know how I found my way to this, but when I saw it, I said "wow, this is a great image." Large, so can be downsampled into a crisp image, also likely few replacements that are free.

Articles this image appears in
Kazakhstan Military of Kazakhstan Republican Guard (Kazakhstan)
Creator
Jim Varhegyi, U.S. Air Force
Suggested by
Nuclear Lunch Detected  Hungry? 19:25, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - Frontal view of the Sveti Sedmochislenitsi Church in Sofia, Bulgaria

Good lighting and detail.

Articles this image appears in
Sveti Sedmochislenitsi Church, potentially more
Creator
TodorBozhinov
Suggested by
TodorBozhinov 21:16, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - Frontal view of the National Assembly of Bulgaria in Sofia

Useful encyclopedic shot, can't really see much wrong with it. There's some decent detail and, behold, no cars in the foreground (which is hard to capture in daylight even on a Sunday afternoon).

  • Is the guy to the right distracting? I think he adds a kind of scale to the photo.
  • Also, I'd like to know whether the shadow cast over the building is an issue.
  • A frontal shot without the domes of the Alexander Nevsky Cathedral seen in the background is not possible, if that can be perceived as a problem.
Articles this image appears in
Politics of Bulgaria, National Assembly of Bulgaria, Tsar Osvoboditel Boulevard, Konstantin Jovanović, potentially a lot more
Creator
TodorBozhinov
Suggested by
TodorBozhinov 21:11, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Answering your questions in turn: the guy isn't a problem, generally one or two people can be beneficial as you say; the shadow is a big problem, see comment on previous nomination; although you may find reviewers forgiving about background buildings etc they're never a plus point, and unless your image is exceptional in other respects that sort of minor issue can tip the balance away from FP promotion. There's some distortion making the building appear curved, which I'd suggest was the most important issue after lighting. mikaultalk 22:58, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - A golden trout, California's state fish, caught in the John Muir Wilderness.

High resolution and great brightness.

Articles this image appears in
Golden trout, Golden Trout Wilderness, Mount Whitney Fish Hatchery
Creator
Rayfound
Suggested by
Secret Saturdays (talk) 01:58, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments

Nice pic but I'm not sure about it, not only being a juvenile but being held like that, reminds me more of an angling magazine shot than an encyclopedia illustration. That would be the killer issue at FPC, although you'd also probably find the higher resolution only serves to show up a slight lack of definition common to compact cameras, and find it marked down for being a bit soft. That it's a nice-looking fish, generally, isn't enough. mikaultalk 22:47, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Original - A pair of Helix pomatia shortly before mating.

This is an incredibly amazing photo. Not only would it be hard to capture, but it is such good quality and shows so much detail. It also illustrates how these particular snails get down and dirty ahah, which adds greatly to the article. (This is my first picture one btw, so might not have done it all correctly).

Articles this image appears in
Helix pomatia, Love dart
Creator
the creator of the image, where possible using the format Gugganij
Suggested by
IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 17:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - St James Independent School, Twickenham, London (photo 3 January 2009)

good photograph, high resolution.

Articles this image appears in
St James Independent Schools
Creator
Jim Linwood
Suggested by
Snowman (talk) 00:11, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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A brief presentation of the subject and a valuable video footage, encyclopedic. Is submited here per videos = motion pictures.

Articles this image appears in
F-16 Fighting Falcon, Fighter aircraft
Creator
U.S. Air Force
Suggested by
Kozuch (talk) 08:34, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - Australian Pelican (Pelecanus conspicillatus) swimming

well lit, looks natural

Articles this image appears in
Australian Pelican
Creator
Geoff Penaluna
Suggested by
Snowman (talk) 15:55, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - A self portrait of William-Adolphe Bouguereau, a 19th century artist. Oil on canvas.

Needs a bit of cleanup, but has good EV as there are no better portraits of him, and no photos for obvious reasons. Another portrait is at (File:William-Adolphe Bouguereau (1825-1905) - Self-Portrait Presented To M. Sage (1886).jpg), but is not as good IMO

Articles this image appears in
William-Adolphe Bouguereau
Creator
William-Adolphe Bouguereau
Suggested by
Nezzadar [SPEAK] 19:40, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - Roadside Hawk

a detailed photograpah

Articles this image appears in
en:Roadside Hawk
Creator
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wagner-machado-carlos-lemes/
Suggested by
Snowman (talk) 23:46, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - Dolichotis patagonum

good photograph

Articles this image appears in
en:Patagonian Mara
Creator
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lrargerich/
Suggested by
Snowman (talk) 23:53, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Seconder


Original - Bottlenose Dolphin at Notojima Aquarium, Ishikawa, Japan

good photograph

Articles this image appears in
en:Bottlenose dolphin
Creator
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85936780@N00
Suggested by
Snowman (talk) 23:58, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - Glossopsitta concinna at Auckland Zoo

shows plumage well

Articles this image appears in
en:Musk Lorikeet
Creator
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kiwiclanger/
Suggested by
Snowman (talk) 19:56, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Image is of poor quality. While it captures the subject well, it is incredibly grainy. Beyond what could be done with an unsteady hand, this seems like it was digitally altered for some reason to add "noise" to the image. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 00:30, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - An architectural design for Sustainable Portable Classroom from Open Architecture Network

creative architectural design, lack of such featured media type (?)

Articles this image appears in
Sustainable architecture
Creator
Drexel University Design Charrette
Suggested by
Kozuch (talk) 19:00, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Comment. This is a poster that combines big blocks of text with many discrete images. For this reason, I'd question whether the articles in which this image appears would be improved by breaking up this poster into its constituent images and using only some of them, rather than the whole poster. Spikebrennan (talk) 14:09, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment My perdiction: This will be rejected by the people at FPC for having lots of blocks of very small text that is hot pink (and not web safe SVG font.) Actually, they probably will also want this to be an SVG period, which I doubt you can or are willing to do. Also, Spike has a point. Right now this is one giant advert, but broken down, it can be more useful. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 00:23, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - The Sign of William A. Shine Great Neck South High School

I would like other editors to do a peer review on this. Currently I am nominating the article for good article. It would be nice to have the photo featured someday. Can you offer suggestions on how to improve the image if it doesn't meet the criteria? To me, it is fine and shows the school sign well. I hope you won't criticize this photo harshly. It would be such a hassle to improve on it when it looks fine already.

Articles this image appears in
William A. Shine Great Neck South High School
Creator
Alchaenist
Suggested by
Zeleb (talk) 16:17, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Image will likely not pass FPC nomination. Reasons: lighting too bright, subject has little to no encyclopedic value (...its a sign in some bushes), and misc. technical issues. Due to the EV concern, I doubt a retake would help. Sorry, Nezzadar [SPEAK] 05:08, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - A photo of William A. Shine Great Neck South High School

I would like other editors to do a peer review on this. Currently I am nominating the article for good article. It would be nice to have the photo featured someday. Can you offer suggestions on how to improve the image if it doesn't meet the criteria? To me, it is fine and shows the school well. I hope you won't criticize this photo harshly. It would be such a hassle to improve on it when it looks fine already.

Articles this image appears in
William A. Shine Great Neck South High School
Creator
Alchaenist
Suggested by
Zeleb (talk) 16:12, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Another image that I am not sure has the potential to pass FPC. It has no WOW factor, some technical problems, etc. Really, not every article needs FPs, even good ones, and forcing an FP on an article might hurt it. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 05:50, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - The Westminster complex, at night

Already is an FP, but I think it would be better if someone rotated it a bit so that the palace would run parallel to the edge of the image. Don't know where else to put this. If it does not get fixed, I will nominate this for delisting, as this is a photo of acommon subject, poorly executed. Also, there is no link to the promotion discussion.

Articles this image appears in
Several, but that is not the point...
Creator
Solipsist
Suggested by
Nezzadar [SPEAK] 05:21, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Have repaired the link to the FPC nom (it got lost somewhere back in the edits when something else got removed). Re the fixes I'm not sure what you're saying - are you suggesting the bottom of the building should be parallel to the bottom of the image? If so, I don't think that can be 'fixed' very effectively, as that is due to the image being taken on an angle from beside that bridge. --jjron (talk) 06:49, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • What make this image poorly executed? When these guys that know about photography complain about having a tilted horizon is usually in frontal pictures, in which the inclination is really misleading of the real position of the subject, or in cases in which it produces some problems with the shape of the objects ( which in general doesn't have to be a problem but the encyclopedic nature of Wikipedia requires). At the beginning I saw a problem with that thing visible in the river. I thought it was a dog swimming but I thing it is a rock. In any case that can be cropped if you really want. Franklin.vp  17:48, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do this experiment. Look and the bridge. There some rectangular holes underneath facing the photographer. You will see that the sides of those rectangles are perfectly parallel to those of the frame. So the tilt that you are seen is indeed perspective. It is actually a very good picture.  Franklin.vp  17:56, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The building is photographed obliquely, so the far end looks smaller than the near end and I think everyone will understand this. I do not think that the photograph should be changed except to straighten some of the verticals. Snowman (talk) 23:30, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - Fort Pickens, Florida, during a storm. Illustration

With a little bit of cleanup, this would make an excellent FP. Good EV, irreplacable, meets size requirements, quality scan, no copyvio issues. Plus, Florida is lacking in FPs.

Articles this image appears in
Fort Pickens, Battle of Santa Rosa Island, Portal:Florida/Selected picture/13, 1861
Creator
Mrs. ??? Gilman. Printed in Harper's Weekly
Suggested by
Nezzadar [SPEAK] 05:32, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • I'm no expert on these, but looks to be a lot of banding across the image. I think it would be hard to fix to an acceptable standard, and it's a pretty small file/res to be working on. --jjron (talk) 06:51, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:Picture peer review/File:Dresden Garnisonkirche gp.jpg

Original - A night-time photograph of Peel Castle, Isle of Man, on the evening of 28 October 2009. The photo was taken with a long (30s) exposure from the harbour entrance and shows the illuminations from the floodlights.

I believe this may meet the FP criteria as it is encylopedic, well composed and visually pleasing. The image is sharp, despite the long exposure, apart from the reflection which gives a deliberately ghostly appearnce due to the movemnent of ripples on the water during the exposure. My only concern is the possible overexposure from the lights, which is why I'd like a second opinion here before I nominate it at FP.

Articles this image appears in
Peel Castle
Creator
Tivedshambo
Suggested by
 —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 14:11, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • It won't pass FP IMO. Honestly, it's too poorly placed and only is on one artice. That means that it will be that much more likely to be picked apart for the lighting. Do you have a daytime photo from the same spot? Nezzadar [SPEAK] 17:31, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's certainly not as detailed as you'd expect from a 14MP camera, at first I thought it was a compact... you'd get much better results at a wider aperture (ƒ8 should be fine) and with more light (twilight would work well, see the images at blue hour) you'd have less noise and better definition. You should still get some blurry water at ~1sec and it's a good candidate for stitching. It's encyclopedic enough as it is, but with a bit of work it could easily be the lead image in the article. One further thought: FP reviewers can be picky about not including the whole structure, ie you've cropped the left side here. Good luck if you decide to re-shoot. mikaultalk 21:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - the Mona Lisa

The first and second nominations have left this version as the last one that hasn't been declined as featured picture in English Wikipedia among the currently available Mona Lisa versions.

Articles this image appears in
(most of them link to Mona Lisa.jpg - first 500 articles are found at [1])
Creator
Leonardo da Vinci
Suggested by
Mikael Häggström (talk) 08:44, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - Marlin are often caught as bycatch in tuna longline fisheries. Marlin has commercial value throughout the world. Landings totaled 3,064 metric tons in 2000. The meat has a high fat content. Its meat is particularly valued in Japan for sashimi.

This is a fish that is renowned throughout the world and one that is popular enough to find its way into many grocery stores/fish markets. The picture itself meets the size requirement by double the recommended size and nicely illustrates the subject.

Articles this image appears in
Atlantic blue marlin
Creator
ZeWrestler
Suggested by
ZeWrestler Talk 23:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - The windmill Nooitgedacht', Veenoord, Drenthe, the Neterlands.

Good clear image, the spread sailcloths suggest that the mill is working. Well contrasted against the sky and reflected in the canal.

Articles this image appears in
Nooitgedacht, Veenoord
Creator
Quistnix
Suggested by
Mjroots (talk) 17:16, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - Indian Python swallowing a full grown Chital deer at Mudumalai National Park

This is a graphic, shocking, unique and impressive image that is the best and only example of Predation by a Python in Wikipedia. See the deer's hoof for scale. It has good technical standard and resolution with no manipulation (990 × 695 pixels, file size: 907 KB, MIME type: image/jpeg), accurate and succinct caption and a Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 license. It adds value and understanding to each article it illustrates.

Articles this image appears in
Mudumalai National Park, Predation, Python molurus
Creator
Rakesh Kumar Dogra IFS-CF
Suggested by
Marcus334 (talk) 06:35, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • I don't think it'd pass on the basis of borderline resolution and image quality. Also there is a lot of stuff in the way and we can't see most of the python or the deer. Noodle snacks (talk) 08:30, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • This was a chance capture of Python swallowing a full grown spotted deer in the forests of Mudumalai. The entire act took about three hours. Surprisingly, contrary to popular belief, the python moved away quietly soon after entire deer was inside. . Marcus334 (talk) 08:42, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - Isothermal chart of the world created by William Channing Woodbridge in 1823 using the work of Alexander von Humboldt.

Adds considerable value to the associated articles, fairly high resolution.

Articles this image appears in
Timeline of meteorology, Alexander von Humboldt
Creator
Jujutacular (restoration)
Suggested by
Jujutacular T · C 12:15, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Unrestored version.
Original - Victoria amazonica, the Amazon water lily, at the Adelaide Botanic Gardens.
Alt - longer exposure

I'm pretty happy with it technically, as composition, exposure and focus all seemed ok, and it shows the flower during it's "white" phase. Plus I thought the reflection was pretty.

Articles this image appears in
Victoria amazonica
Creator
Bilby
Suggested by
Bilby (talk) 06:13, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Yes, I forgot about that lens, now that you point it out. The 200mm always underexposes half a stop or so, which I forgot to adjust for today. I've replaced it with the longer exposure version (I always auto-bracket). - Bilby (talk) 08:04, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - A collection of watering cans of assorted sizes.

The image is high resolution with attention to multiple watering cans. May not have a wow factor, but it does illustrate the subject well. I would be interested to see if any modifications are needed for the image to reach FP status.

Articles this image appears in
Watering can
Creator
Bas Leenders
Suggested by
Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 00:45, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • I'm not sure an image of watering cans would have enough EV to get nominated as a FP. People tend to be very critical of images that have limited use on pages. Technically it's a good photograph I think. — raeky (talk | edits) 05:39, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well we do have a sprinkler, so it's a possibility :-). Having said which I find the lighting on this one not too comfortable and composition a little awkward. --jjron (talk) 12:39, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe I can try for the most boring FP ever, that can be my hook to get people interested (at least the sprinkler has water in motion). I was glad the lighting wasn't overexposed, but some of the shadows do appear distracting. Would the lighting be able to be adjusted in Photoshop (such as removing the light on some of the cans and the back wall)? --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 00:38, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I like the sprinkler. This, however, has too many issues. The distracting cut out light in the background, the poor contrast, and the cluttered subjects to name a few.   Nezzadar    05:23, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking a look. The contrast could be adjusted, but can the lighting be modified using Photoshop? --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 00:37, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The lighting can be modified to an extent, but IMO not enough, and not much point as other issues would likely take it out anyway. --jjron (talk) 13:48, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - Canadian Horseshoe Falls, which is loacted near Niagra Falls with city of Buffalo, US in background (As seen from the Skylon Tower.

It's of a good height and twice as awe inspiring.

Articles this image appears in
Niagra Falls
Creator
Ujjwalkumar
Suggested by
Secret Saturdays (talk) 00:18, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • This doesn't stand a chance of FP status, as it is far too blurry. Look at the buildings and the grassy areas off to the sides of the waterfall. Sorry, I can't help you here.   Nezzadar    05:25, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - Spanish pendant at Victoria and Albert Museum

I believe this jewellery image could be a potential Feature picture due to the high educational value and the subject's artistic value as well as a fine photography. However, it is not very sharp, and I only cropped it a little, so I know the noise on the background should be removed. It is obtained via OTRS, so its permission process is not finished yet. I also wonder it can be FP regardless of the said weakness. Caspian blue 00:15, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles this image appears in
Emerald, Gemstone, Jewellery, Pendant, Victoria and Albert Museum
Creator
by Jinho Jung at Flickr
Suggested by
Caspian blue 00:15, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - a political cartoon showing Uncle Sam (who is going to protest about Russia's exclusion of Jewish immigrants) seeing the ghost of the Chinese Exclusion Act in his closet.

Great commentary about exclusion hypocrisy.

Articles this image appears in
Chinese Exclusion Act, Sinophobia, Chinese American history
Creator
Infrogmation
Suggested by
Secret Saturdays (talk) 19:50, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Needs rebalancing as it has no true black. This is something Durova is good at, and I would take it to her. Once it's rebalanced, the image will become crisper, and will become FP quality. Good find.   Nezzadar    05:21, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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This picture has great lighting and is one of my favorites.

Articles this image appears in
Jailbreak (iPhone OS)
Creator
Chadpadilla
Suggested by
Secret Saturdays (talk) 22:53, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Not too bad, but harsh inconsistent lighting would be frowned upon for a 'studio' shot so would be very unlikely to have much success. --jjron (talk) 13:04, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Agree. If you want to illustrate jailbreak or custom themes then remove the case for the photo also. Ditch the screwdriver and the text and zoom in and lighting like [2] could be fairly good. The caption has how it was lit. You can achieve the lighting with a normal light and a longer exposure. Noodle snacks (talk) 21:21, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - U.S. Army Capt. Amanda Mullins from the 111th Engineering Brigade, embraces her son upon return from a one year deployment to Afghanistan.

Riveting angle and a picture that moved to tears.

Articles this image appears in
Military brat (U.S. subculture)
Creator
Signaleer
Suggested by
Secret Saturdays (talk) 21:39, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Don't rub it in Jjron... :(   Nezzadar    02:08, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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File:TSS Earnslaw 2.jpg
Original - TSS Earnslaw cruising along Lake Wakatipu

I suppose it meets all the criteria- and at least for me looks good :)

Articles this image appears in
TSS Earnslaw
Creator
trakesht
Suggested by
trakesht (talk) 14:16, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - A female Northern White-cheeked Gibbon (Nomascus leucogenys) at the Adelaide Zoo
Edit - A slightly tweaked version

I'd like to see where this one sits - I'm just starting to give animal photography a go. The photo shows the female gibbon, which is quite different in appearance from the male, is quite sharp and at a high resolution. I'm pretty happy with the exposure given the range in the shot and the light colouring of her fur.

Articles this image appears in
Northern White-cheeked Gibbon
Creator
Bilby
Suggested by
Bilby (talk) 10:16, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Looked at this last week but didn't get around to commenting. Anyway, it looks pretty good to me, couldn't remember any real quality issues. Some things I would suggest that may come up if you nominated at FPC. It looks maybe a little underexposed in the main, though looks to be quite tough lighting conditions as the upper parts of the arms are very bright, perhaps even blown - you've mentioned this too, and overall you've done it quite well. The cutoff left arm would unfortunately work against it, would have been great to get right out to the hand, but as is it looks a bit awkward. The other negative is that it's a pretty strong profile shot - we don't expect animals to be posing for the photo, but it's usually nice if they're looking in the general direction of the camera. Thanks for your nomination. --jjron (talk) 06:31, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'll see if any of the other shots are a tad closer. The hassle was the light colouring against a necessarily dark background - if you increase exposure (everything was auto-bracketed half a stop and in raw, so I could give this a shot) the right arm tended to get blown highlights. But I may have a couple of alts that will help - as per normal with animals, I took a lot of shots. :) And thanks for the comment - I'm hoping to learn to do more than offer architecture to Wikipedia one day. - Bilby (talk) 08:12, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just what we need - another Aussie contributing high quality animal images for Wikipedia and FPC ;-). Seriously though, it's great to get more people that can contribute high quality original work here. Drop by with anything good you've got, and if any of the architecture stuff is particularly good, don't be shy about that either. There's a whole FP category for architecture. --jjron (talk) 11:27, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Added edit with a few tweaks. --jjron (talk) 13:38, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I like your edit - makes it pop better. :) I've been looking at the other shots, and the problem is that when she looks straight into the camera you loose the black strip on the head - which is a key identifying characteristic of the species. It is still sort of there, but not quite as plain. I need a shot from slightly above to have a full face portrait with the patch, or have her looking down just a tad. - Bilby (talk) 01:18, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, can be hard to get it all. Any shots with the full animal at least (no cutoff arms, etc) that are up to this one? --jjron (talk) 12:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
None that I prefer - the 200mm shots had trouble getting everything in, so one arm or the other looses a bit, and the 50mm shots, while at sufficient resolution to be cropped, show the composition problems from her pose. (Her arms are impressively long, so you get this big expanse of nothing with a body in the bottom third). I went back today to see if I could make a second go at it, but I made the mistake of bringing my wife, who didn't understand why I wanted to spend two hours at the gibbons waiting for the right shot. :) I did find a nice flower, though, as per above, and I'll make another try when I can sneak off on my own. - Bilby (talk) 06:26, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - Functorial Resolution of Singularities. Observe that the resolution does not stop after the first blowing-up, when the strict transform is smooth, but when it is simple normal crossings with the exceptional divisors.

Resolution of singularities is a complicated process both computationally and theoretically. In some simple cases it has not too many steps and it can be shown explicitly without. In the given example the basic important features of the resolution are shown. The diagram is simple as the topic requires to avoid distractions. The blowings-up and the exceptional divisors are given. The article Resolution_of_singularities didn't have any information about how the resolution is produced. The present image is a first step in a plan to add a sketch of the proof in the article. There are some issues I don't like from the image. Firstly I think it would be good to have some margin, at least a little and secondly the current version is a PDF, when I made the SVG the text lost the spacing. I don't know so far how to solve these. Posting the image here is also a way of catching attention by editors proficient in vector graphics. Is possible but I didn't know about some other page/project dedicated to retouching images.

Articles this image appears in
Resolution_of_singularities
Creator
Franklin.vp
Suggested by
 Franklin.vp  17:11, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • When I click on the image, I get the error message

XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/69/Functorial_Resolution_of_Singularities.svg
Line Number 1, Column 9:
%PDF-1.4
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I added the "br"s. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 17:24, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have the get the same error. Right clicking and saving target give you the file. That's another problem that needs to be solved. Franklin.vp  17:33, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • It seems a bit blurry, is this svg safe or regular fonts? Nezzadar [SPEAK] 17:52, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I guess it is something about the way wikipedia displays PDFs, when you save the file the SVG is there with its infinite resolution. Thats why the SVG has to be produced. When I did it with Inkscape (as ZooFari suggested me) the text lost the spaces (see first version of the file). That's why I uploaded the PDF so that at least the article has the information readable until the technical corrections of the file are done.  Franklin.vp  17:59, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ah, I see. I also flirted with inkscape, but got rid of it since I don't have the time to learn it. I use Paint.NET, a freeware that mimics Adobe Photoshop, but does not make svgs. Durova uses GIMP, another freeware, or at least I think she uses that. Someone suggested it to me anyhow. Try those. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 18:31, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Requesting withdrawal Thanks to ZooFari the visual tweaks needed were done. He said maybe some XML cleaning was needed but I do not know about that. Externally it looks as I ( or the article) needed. Franklin.vp  23:53, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Wikipedia:Picture peer review/ Wikipedia:Picture peer review/File:Virtual Boy system.png

Original - Panellus Stipticus displaying it's bioluminescent properties.

The glowing mushroom cluster is very interesting in this light.

Articles this image appears in
Foxfire_(bioluminescence)
Creator
Ylem
Suggested by
( fi ) 22:56, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - Old Port of Marseille
Original - Old Port of Marseille

Nice View of one of the most beautiful spots in Marseille

Articles this image appears in
Marseille
Creator
Imehling
Suggested by
Imehling (talk) 10:47, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • This looks to be OK quality and is quite good, but I'm not completely convinced. It seems to have a substantial bend to it, I'm not sure if its a result of the lens used or perhaps a two (?) image stitch, as there's no metadata and no further information provided. Regardless of the cause, this can sometimes be taken as acceptable, sometimes not. Unfortunately that building at front is cutoff at the bottom and there's possibly a slight excess of sky at the top - not sure if that could have been avoided by getting more at the bottom (looks like you were shooting off a rooftop), but that could also work against it. --jjron (talk) 13:14, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • The picture is an image stitch of three pictures. I used Hugin Panorama Creator for stitching. The bend results from the cylindrical projection of the stitched picture. Here is another version with rectilinear projection. Do you think it's better?
      • I actually think I do prefer the alt. Still looks to be a slight warp and the bottom corner of that building is still clipped, but not as bad. I prefer the lighting in the original though, you probably haven't done the same post-processing. Could possibly stand to lose a little sky through a crop (maybe 10% of the image height) to give it a slightly more 'panoramic' look. --jjron (talk) 07:33, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • Thanks for your competent advice. I have uploaded a new version with a slightliy cropped sky. Unfortunately the bottom corner of the building is still clipped. Maybe I am going to look for it in my next holidays.--Imehling (talk) 17:53, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - Defense Secretary Robert Gates, left, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, center, and Becky Gates, right, watch the Navy vs. Notre Dame football game at M&T Bank Stadium in Baltimore, Nov. 15, 2008. The Fighting Irish defeated the Midshipmen, 27-21.

This is Wikipedia's best photograph of M&T Bank Stadium's interior and is featured prominently in the article. It is also notable because two cabinet members are watching their alma maters face each other on the gridiron. EDIT: Robert Gates did not attend the Naval Academy, it was a mistake on my part.

Articles this image appears in
M&T Bank Stadium, List of American football stadiums by capacity, List of current National Football League stadiums
Creator
Cherie Cullen, United States Department of Defense
Suggested by
Pgp688 (talk) 06:59, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Hard to know what to make of this. The quality seems quite good and it's actually not a bad photo of the stadium itself, though those three people at front are definitely quite distracting and are really the focus of the shot. They are however notable people, but on the other hand you only really see the back of their heads and there is some quite harsh flash lighting on them (and I note this isn't used to illustrate their articles). Overall I don't think I'd support it and tend to suspect odds would be against it, but it's hard to really say how it would fare for sure. --jjron (talk) 07:32, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - Sunset at the Cypress Point Club in Pebble Beach, California

This image is, simply put, beautiful. I find the colors very attractive, as well as the (off-camera) sun shining against the water. The silhouette of the trees adds a nice effect, as well.

Articles this image appears in
Pebble Beach, California
Creator
TrickyNik
Suggested by
Dylan620 (contribs, logs, review) 12:10, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
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Original - Body of Confederate sharpshooter, behind famous shooting blind at Devil's Den. (Taken on July 6 or July 7, 1863, by Alexander Gardner. Recent scholarship strongly suggests that the photo was staged for dramatic effect with a body recovered elsewhere).
Version 2. Restored using photoshop.

This is a historic picture that is depicting a small portion of the bloodiest battle in the American Civil War. It meets the size requirement by more than triple. Furthermore, the image is the object of some doubt because of the fact that some scholars believe it to be staged. The image shows great details of the fallen solider and the location he died. There is a bit of wear on the image with a rip down the center of the picture and a few other artifacts that make me question putting this up for FPC. I'd like to the feedback of people here, and if possible some minor cosmetic help to help with the aging issues. --ZeWrestler Talk 03:40, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles this image appears in
Devil's Den, Alexander Gardner (photographer)
Creator
Picture taken by Alexander Gardner. Originally uploaded by Edmund Ferman.
Suggested by
ZeWrestler Talk 03:40, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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