Wikipedia:Peer review/Tidus/archive1

Tidus

I've listed this article for peer review because I think I managed to expand much more the out-of-universe information from this article to the point I think it is more than the in-universe information. Like I did with Allen Walker, I modeled this article after FA Lightning (Final Fantasy). I would like to nominate this article to FA if possible, but I know it still has some issues like its weak prose. I would like to request a copy-edit too.

Thanks, Tintor2 (talk) 16:28, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Just calling out fellow users I worked with: User:Aoba47, User:Jaguar, User:ProtoDrake.Tintor2 (talk) 02:27, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

I'll give a few comments. Freikorp (talk) 12:18, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

• "He also said there were things he would change about his performance if he could do it over again." Can you give an example of what he would have changed?
• "Tidus is then taken by Sin and Jecht's friend, Auron, to the world Spira." How is he taken there? This is not explained to the reader.
• Perhaps mention the year 1UP found him to be the worst dressed character (2008). Incidentally I also used that source when writing Jill valentine; she is ranked as fifth worst dressed on that list haha.
• I would strongly recommend taking the article to the guild of copyeditors prior to FA nomination.
• I am in the habit of archiving all URLs prior to FA nomination. I strongly recommend it to ensure the article has the best chance of keeping its status as either a good or featured article. It tends to go down well with people commenting on FA nominations as well.

Well done on the article. I enjoyed reading it. As far as i'm concerned FFX is tied with Ocarina of Time for the greatest video game of all time. Freikorp (talk) 12:18, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. I tried addressing your issues. I also requested a copyedit some days ago. Now I'll focus on archiving the sources.Tintor2 (talk) 13:23, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Update. I think I managed to find sources for almost all articles, but some from 1UP are beyond dead.Tintor2 (talk) 15:42, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Comments from Iazyges

Most of these are prose suggestions.

• "He was first introduced as the protagonist of the role-playing video game Final Fantasy X in 2001 by Square. Tidus is introduced as a 17-year-old expert in the fictional sport blitzball from the city of Zanarkand." I don't think the double usage of introduced is roughly the same place is good, perhaps "When Tidus is first introduced as a 17-year-old expert in the fictional sport blitzball from the city of Zanarkand."
• "After killing the corrupt deity " Perhaps corrupt god, unless they call them deities in the game.

"though his appearances in the sequel are few" Perhaps "though he had few appearances in the sequel" or "Though he rarely appeared in the sequel" Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 19:28, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I did those changes except one from Yu Yevon he is actually a human whose spirits went insane.Tintor2 (talk) 20:39, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Comments

• Great job with the "Appearances" section; you condensed down all of the story from the games in a very easy and understandable way, specially the confusing parts about Dream Zanarkand.
• I would add more context about the information regrading Final Fantasy X -Will- The name should be mentioned, and the fact that it takes places six months after the event as a year after Final Fantasy X-2. I would also add that the "future quest" would be to destroy a revived Sin for clarify. I may hate this audio drama, but it is important to make some minor additions to make the context clear to an unfamiliar reader. You don't need to add much, but I think these two pieces of information should be in there.
• In the first sentence of the "Reception" section, I would use "and" rather than a comma before the word "commenting".
• I would suggest revising the "Reception" section, especially the first two paragraphs to make it flow better. Right now, it is a lot of great information about various parts of Tidus and his character development presented in a seemingly random order. I would recommend looking at this source (User:Mike Christie/Copyediting reception sections) and trying to group together common ideas and think of a way to make this section flow easier for a reader. For instance, you could have one paragraph about the response to Tidus as a lead character, and another about his character development and the ending. The other three paragraphs are good, as they are all organized around a clear topic sentence (Squall Leonhart comparisons/the voice work/his relationship with Yuna) so this only deals with the first two paragraphs. I am still incredibly new/inexperienced with Wikipedia so take this with a grain of salt.
• I would revise the third paragraph in the same section. It is somewhat awkward in its transition from talking about Squall to the costume. The information is really good and important, but it may be better suited somewhere else.
• I am not sure if this would be helpful or not (since the "Reception" section is so large), but it might be worthwhile to mention the negative response to Tidus in Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eien no Daishou~ and Final Fantasy X -Will-. This may not be necessary as the section is already long, and it may add to much undue weight to these two minor appearances (while the emphasis should rightfully be on the first two games), but this is more food for thought. I just thought of this to give the reception a more well-rounded approach with both praise and criticism of the character.

@Tintor2: Great work with the article. It was a very interesting read. Take all of my comments with a grain of salt as I am still pretty inexperienced on here, but these are just some of the thoughts I had while reading through this. Let me know when you do nominate this for FAC as I would love to help out with that. Aoba47 (talk) 22:42, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the feeback @Aoba47:. I tried rearranging the reception section based on your comments, but I can't find sources for both the novel (since it was only released in Japan) or the audio drama since it's quite short.Tintor2 (talk) 23:59, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

@Tintor2: The reception section looks great! And that is okay, I figured that it would be really difficult to find reviews about the novel (especially those about a specific character) given its limited release, and the same for the audio drama. Looking back at the article again, I do not think it would be necessary either way, as the focus of the reception should be kept on the primary games. I look forward to seeing this at FAC. Aoba47 (talk) 02:59, 17 November 2016 (UTC)