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Prince George, British Columbia

See my comments on the talk page [1] and the page history [2]. I think we need some expert advice here before things start looking sloppy.CindyBo 19:20, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done*Remove the Cougars and Spruce Kings logos, per Fair Use requirements.

Done*The History section should be expanded beyond community's origins.

Done*In the Economy section "Prince George is now experiencing a modest growth." - in terms of what? and accoring to who/what?

Done*Avoid external links in the middle of text as seen in the Culture section.

Done*I suggest integrating the "Local attractions" section into the rest of the article, like orchestra, playhouse, museum stuff into the Culture section; the local wild edible fruit stuff into the Geography section (with other native plants/animals); and parks either to the Geography or Recreation section.

Done*I have never liked listing famous/notable people, seems trivial and peripheral to the purpose/focus of city articles. But if they have to be listed provide a line on what they meant to the city (with a reference, of course).

Lists of radio and tv stations can be done in tables or templates (like Template:Dawson Creek TV), and write prose descriptions/summaries in the body.

-- maclean 19:22, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your advice. I agree with all of your suggestions and will be working on the article, section by section, this weekend. So those fair use images should only be on the Prince George Cougars and Prince George Spruce Kings articles, period? Is there a way to get permission to keep them in the Prince George article?CindyBo ^talk 19:46, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Read about fair use a bit, they're gone until we get permission to use them.CindyBo ^talk 20:13, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For the logos, fair use prohibits their decorative uses and in this article they are not contributing anything more than what the words "Prince George Cougars and Prince George Spruce Kings" say. They have been removed on the same decorative from Vancouver#Sports and recreation, Boston, Massachusetts#Sports, Seattle, Washington#Sports, and all other similar featured articles. To keep them, explicit permission from the copyright holders would have to be emailed to the foundation, or have them re-licensed. And, by the way, to keep them in the Prince George Cougars and Prince George Spruce Kings articles their copyright tags need to be completed with fair use rationales. --maclean 20:16, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'm on it, then I'll work on the rest tomorrow. Thanks again.CindyBo ^talk 20:28, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I took out a couple of dead links in external links as well as some advertising links. Then I integrated the local attractions as you suggested, and ended up coming up with more recreational activities and local events as it seems like there was quite a few important ones missing. I ended up adding an annual events section, which seems to make sense to me and should work quite nicely, once the blanks are filled in. I had no idea where to put Mr. PG. He's not that artsy, but he has to go somewhere. As for the famous people, I just gave them their own section...for now, but, I think you're right and they should probably go, or be tied in in some other manner. I just removed the modest growth sentence for now, actually the census stats speak against that anyway, although other things like housing prices seem to tilt it the other way. I'll have to dig around for some references. Anyway, I think the basic format is a little better now, but I still have a lot more to reference and explain, particulary for the annual events that I added. Once the rest of the article is in shape, I'll do the history section.CindyBo ^talk 10:38, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I removed the famous people entirely and added more information on the annual events and that 8 way geography chart. However, I found this template here for the media as you mentioned[3] but I have no idea what to do with it. I usually just write history articles and I have no experience with charts and templates (outside of simple copy, paste and edit ones). Could you walk me through how I'm supposed to add the information and how to put it in the article?CindyBo ^talk 19:37, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and by the way, what should bibliography mean in this context?General books about Prince George or just books that were used in compiling the information for the article, or both?CindyBo ^talk 20:58, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I expanded the history section, probably overdid it, but it's hard to squeeze 200 years of history into under a thousand words. If you think it should be a main article, that's fine, I'll keep a copy of it in my sandox, so I can easily make a full article on it anytime and chop the Prince George article down a bit.CindyBo ^talk 08:27, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]