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Noisettes discography

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I've listed this article for peer review because I feel that the article is well-referenced and suitably well formatted and written. I realise that the lead is probably the article's weakest aspect, and in this respect, I would like some imput as to where I can improve this. I am also struggling with regards to finding a suitable {| class="wikitable" |reference for the director of the group's first music video, "Iwe". Note that none of the Noisettes' albums or singles have yet reached certification levels and that the music video for "Saturday Night" has been filmed but not released.

Thanks in advance, Dt¹²⁸_SpeakToMe 17:37, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

• "(sometimes styled as NOISEttes)" I think this is extraneous information that doesn't belong in this particular article.

• I'm not sure about this point. Addition of this information helps define the discography so that it includes the first EP which was by NOISEttes not by Noisettes. Some casual readers may otherwise believe that they are two different bands.shaidar cuebiyar ( talk | contribs ) 02:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

• "the Noisette's music incorporates other styles of musical genres " Comma after here.
  • Done.
• "of act "Sonarfly"" What do you mean by "act"?
  • act --> band.
• "The Noisettes are now most well-known for their 2009 single release" Remove "now".
  • Done.
• "as well as being their first single to chart outside of the UK."-->and was their first single to chart outside the UK.
  • Done.
• "Wild Young Hearts achieved number seven on the UK Albums Chart, as well as charting in Europe." Last time I checked, UK was part of Europe (much to some Brits' chargrin!)
  • changed to "as well as managing to chart in other European countries."
• I believe MOS:DISCOG allows up to ten charts. Are there any more for the albums?
  • As far as I know, the only charts on which the Noisettes have reached are the ones listed.
• Something strange is going on with the peak chart positions in the singles table. I can barely see the country names.
  • I'll have to take a look into this...

• I believe MTV and NME are ubiquitous enough that you don't need to spell them out in the references.
  • Done.
• Would be nice if you could find replacements for ChartStats and acharts, but I can understand if you can't find them. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:59, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
  • I'll look into this over the weekend. Thanks for your help! Dt¹²⁸ SpeakToMe 10:02, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Comments

• Infobox
  • Caption: Bassist and singer Shingai Shoniwa of Noisettes and guitarist Dan Smith perform at Stubbs BBQ on March 16, 2006. > Dan Smith, James Morrison and Shingai Shoniwa of Noisettes, March 16, 2006. Currently too long &/or POV as it ignores drummer (James Morrison) but unnecessarily advertises Stubbs.
  • Changed.
  • Alt: Image of three musicians performing in concert. There are two performers in the foreground, one female, one male. Both are playing guitar. The third musician is playing a set of drums in the background. > Three musicians performing on stage, man at left foreground is playing guitar, man in middle background on drum kit and woman at right foreground is playing guitar.
    • Much better. Thankyou!
  • Music videos. Is it 8 or 9? This may be a problem for the Lead instead.
    • Changed to nine in lead.
• Lead
  • eight music videos > nine music videos see above.
    • Yep.
  • ref [1]: IPC Media > [[IPC Media]]
    • Done.
  • the Noisette's music incorporates > Noisettes' music incorporates
    • Done.
  • ref [2] can be placed at end of sentence to cover both genres. Also change [[MTV|Music Television]] > [[MTV (UK & Ireleand)|MTV]] to avoid wikilink to US version.
    • Done.
  • Founded by lead singer and bassist Shingai Shoniwa and guitarist Dan Smith, of act "Sonarfly", the group now holds drummer James Morrison. > Founded in 2003 by lead singer and bassist Shingai Shoniwa, guitarist Dan Smith, (both from Sonarfly), and drummer James Morrison. Currently implies Morrison is a later addition to Noisettes, whereas both ref [1] and ref [3] have Morrison in band from the start.
    • Done.
  • Under the name "NOISEttes", the three recorded their first release, a four-song EP entitled Three Moods of the Noisettes, released by Side Salad Records. > Under the name "NOISEttes", the three recorded their first release, a four-song EP entitled Three Moods of the Noisettes, issued by Side Salad Records in 2005. Gives year of first release, tweaks sentence.
    • Sounds much better now.
  • Described as "garage-rock" and compared to > Described as garage-rock and compared to Wikilink genre & not in quotes.
    • Done.
  • peaked at just 75 on > peak at number 75 on More neutral, also note edit styled to keep number and 75 together in wrap arounds.
    • Changed.
  • as well as charting in Europe > as well as charting elsewhere in Europe or as well as charting on the Europe Album Charts depending on your intention.
    • Previously changed, see above.
• Studio albums
  • Date format: be consistent (may apply to other tables). Lead & caption use April 20, 2009 style. Table incorrectly uses 20 April, 2009 (no commas allowed between month and year) which could be 20 April 2009 style. See MOS:DATE.
    • Changed to April 20, 2009
  • Wikilink AUT to Austria if there is no separate chart article. Likewise EUR to Europe.
    • Done.
• Extended plays
  • See date format above.
  • Second column: Album details > Extended play details
    • Per MOS:DISCOG and to keep consistency with other discographies, I believe the header should be Album details.

      Done.shaidar cuebiyar ( talk | contribs ) 13:38, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

• Singles
  • Consider use of Template:Singles discography as more economical (can be used for up to 20 singles and ten charts per single).
    • I would prefer to use the current format as I am unfamiliar with the above template, but I'll definatley take a look.
  • If not using this Template, Second column: Song > Title.
    • Done.
• References
  • Note some comments above. Particular references:
    3. Wikilinks to Allmusic and Macrovision not needed (already in Refs sectn).
    5. If using ChartStats, consider using Ref [11] to cover all UK charting singles and albums: saves on individual refs;
    6. Try Nielsen Business Media, Inc for publisher.
    12. For <ref name="AUSTRIA">{{de icon}}{{cite web| url=http://austriancharts.at/showinterpret.asp?interpret=Noisettes| title=Discographie Noisettes - Austria| publisher=austriancharts.at| accessdate=2009-08-05}}</ref> consider <ref name="AUSTRIA">{{cite web| url=http://austriancharts.at/showinterpret.asp?interpret=Noisettes| title=Discographie Noisettes - Austria| publisher=austriancharts.at| accessdate=2009-08-05}} NOTE: Some information in Austrian.</ref> Not all information is in German and there may be differences between Austrian and German.
    18. insert: author=Zywietz, Tobias|
    21. change: publisher=Drowned in Sound. Silentway
    24. I'm almost certain the language in The Netherlands is Dutch not German. See ref 12 too.
    28. change: publisher=Yahoo! Music. Yahoo! Inc
    29. Casual reader should be told they're going to YouTube (similar note needed on other YouTube refs). e.g. <ref>{{cite web| url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dALeLKEHDz4 | title=Scratch Your Name music video| publisher=[[Universal Music Group]]| accessdate=2009-08-08 }} NOTE: [[YouTube]] website may automatically download video.</ref> If the Director(s) name is adequately sourced by another reference then delete this ref.
    • Changed all here except #28 and #12 because I'm unsure about what is meant. I think I will list YouTube in the publisher field on ref #29 however.

      Ref #12 Currently has (in German) indicating that the site's information is written in German. However much of the information on the page is in English. Consequently I would add a NOTE to that effect. For Ref #28 I wanted to avoid having two full stops (..) after Yahoo! Inc as publisher. Ref #29: sounds OK.shaidar cuebiyar ( talk | contribs ) 13:38, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Have fun.shaidar cuebiyar ( talk | contribs ) 02:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help. :)

Update "Never Forget You" on European charts? See here.shaidar cuebiyar ( talk | contribs ) 14:17, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Done. Dt¹²⁸ SpeakToMe 16:47, 15 August 2009 (UTC)