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Leslie Hunter

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I've listed this article for peer review because I have worked hard to improve it to GA standard, and now want to start pushing it towards FA. I think it would benefit from an outside view, and some advice as to the sort of things that need to be improved. N.b. I have also requested peer review at the arts wikiproject, but have had no response as that project is now semi-active, so I am hoping for better luck here.

Thanks, Korruski^Talk 09:34, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Finetooth comments: This is interesting and generally well-written. However, it does not seem comprehensive to me, a non-expert on art with no prior knowledge of Hunter. I also have doubts about the images, as explained below.

Lead

• "He spent much of his early life in California, USA, but returned later to Scotland... " - Instead of "California, USA", I'd recommend "California, in the United States". WP:MOS#Abbreviations says in part, "Do not use U.S.A. or USA, except in a quotation or as part of a proper name (Team USA)."

Early life and San Francisco

• "making a living primarily as a magazine illustrator" - What magazine or magazines? Is any of his published work available from that time? It would probably be free-use material if you can find it.

• What did Dixon, Putnam, and Hunter have in common? What did they hope to accomplish by forming the California Society of Arts? In what ways was it to be different from the San Francisco Art Association (SFAA)? In what sense was the SFAA conservative?

• You mention a family in this section and a sister in the "London" section. What were his parents' names? What was his sister's name? Did he have other siblings?

Early painting career

• "What painting he did was dominated by still-lifes on black backgrounds, influenced by the Dutch style." - Could you be more specific about "Dutch style"? Does this refer to a particular chronological period? A particular group of painters? What are its characteristics beyond "still-lifes on black backgrounds"?

• "Here, inspired by French art and the local landscape" - Which French art? What did the physical landscape(s) look like? Farms? Seacoasts? Cliff faces? Hills? Ponds? Forests?

London, ill-health and death

• "Hunter suffered a severe breakdown" - What kind of breakdown? Physical? Emotional? How did it manifest? Signs and symptoms?

• Since it was his sister who looked after him, I'm assuming that Hunter was not married. Was he? Any significant other(s)?

• "including one of Dr Tom Honeyman, the Director of the Glasgow Art Gallery and Museum" - Instead of academic titles, Wikipedia uses brief descriptions. I would suggest "Tom Honeyman, a physician who directed the Glasgow Art Gallery and Museum... ".

Popularity

• Would it be useful to add the names of places that people can go to see major collections of Hunter's work in 2011?

Layout

• It's best to keep images wholly inside the sections they illustrate. Short sections make this difficult to achieve. Sometimes the problem can be solved by moving the images, and sometimes sections can be expanded or merged to make room for an important image. In the existing article, both images displace edit buttons and overlap section boundaries. They would look better if they did not do this.

Images

• I'd make sure to add an image to the infobox. Preferably, this would be a free-use image of Hunter, if one can be found.

• The source link for File:Leslie Hunter - The Beach Largo at Low Tide.jpg is dead and should be repaired or replaced. Otherwise, fact-checkers cannot verify the license claim. Also, if the date of creation is unknown, how can we be sure that the copyright has expired?

• If the creation date of File:HunterPortrait.jpg is unknown, how can we be sure that it is not still protected by copyright?

• If the images can't be licensed as free-use, perhaps a fair-use license would be acceptable. An example of such a license can be seen at File:No. 5, 1948.jpg.

References

• Do all of the sources meet the WP:RS guidelines? The gallery web sites, for example, are most likely tertiary sources rather than secondary sources; that is, they largely repeat information from secondary sources, although they might not identify those sources.

• The book data should include place of publication. For example, the book in citation 5 was published in Layton, Utah. If you don't have this information in your notes, you can usually find it via WorldCat.

• This leads to my most serious reservation about meeting the FA requirement that the article be comprehensive. A WorldCat search on "George Leslie Hunter" turns up material not mentioned in the existing article. The first item on the search list, for example, is The Life and Work of George Leslie Hunter, 1977–1931 (2002) by Derek Ogston and Margaret Carlaw. I don't know anything about Hunter except what I've read in your Wikipedia article, and I don't know which, if any, of the other biographies or studies would be useful. Nevertheless, the article seems a bit skimpy in places. Could it be expanded? Should it?

Other

• The link checker in the toolbox at the top of this review page finds one dead link in the citations.

• Rather than repeating "life" and "early" in the heads and subheads of the "Life" section, I'd rewrite them with variety in mind. Perhaps, for example, "Life" could become "Biography".

• Please make sure that the existing text includes no copyright violations, plagiarism, or close paraphrasing. For more information on this please see Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches. (This is a general warning given in view of previous problems that have risen over copyvios.)

I hope these suggestions prove helpful. If so, please consider commenting on any other article at WP:PR. I don't usually watch the PR archives or make follow-up comments. If my suggestions are unclear, please ping me on my talk page. Finetooth (talk) 20:52, 21 February 2011 (UTC)