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Jenna Ortega

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Hi, all. I'd like to get this article to FA-status in the future; any comments on how it could be improved would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Pamzeis (talk) 08:59, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LunaEclipse

Going to review this article's references in a bit. I currently have a peer review open for DJ Kool Herc, it would be nice if you checked it out.

OK, here are my comments:

I would recommend removing the Ty Burr citation, as self-published sources, even if authored by experts, are prohibited in biographies of living persons.
I'm unsure of Collider's credibility, as it is a Valnet property, and such websites are known to be content farms/mills.
- Speaking of Valnet, there's a handful of Comic Book Resources citations here. These articles were all published after 2016 and are unreliable.

🌙Eclipse ^(talk) ^(contribs) 14:10, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya, LunaEclipse! Thanks for your comments—I've removed Ty Burr's blog and any Valnet-owned sources. I'll try and review DJ Kool Herc by the end of next week. Again, thanks. Pamzeis (talk) 14:12, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Joeyquism

Hello Pamzeis! This will be my first contribution to a PR; delighted to be reviewing your article! Some things I'm noticing below:

Her mother attempted to distract her with activities... — The meaning is obvious, but would benefit from adding the word "other" before "activities"; there's a subtle implication that acting does not fall under "activities" with this wording.
- Done
...adding that her family "keep [her] feet on the ground". — Should be "keep[s]", if I'm not mistaken; in American English the word "family" is treated as a single unit. A bit of a pedantic point, but the article is tagged American English, and my American brain clocked it as a bit strange.
- Done
- Otherwise, it's very well-written as it stands. Well done!
  - Thanks!
Images look good as far as Creative Commons licensing goes (the one in the main infobox is of exceptional quality for a YouTube screenshot - I wish I could find good screengrabs like that more often). The audio clip of her voice LGTM too.
Sources all look WP:RS at a cursory glance.
Thank you for providing alt text for the images :)
MOS:LEADLENGTH feels a bit short given the 3000+ word count – you could likely expound a little bit more on her other ventures and her artistry within reason, I understand you've gone over most of her career highlights in the lead already

Hi, Joeyquism! A belated welcome to PR! Hope you decide to stick around. Apologies for not responding earlier; I have not been the most active on wiki lately. I will try to resolve your comment on the lead (though writing leads are definitely not my strong point), but I may rework some sections of the article before I do so. Thanks for the comments :) Pamzeis (talk) 10:09, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of course! Glad to hear from you, and I’ll keep an eye out for your updates! joeyquism (talk) 18:56, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya, Joeyquism. I've expanded the lead a tad. Not entirely sure what to put though, 'cuz I don't know if it's due weight. Pamzeis (talk) 14:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pamzeis! I think that this is pertinent information, and the way you've written it looks great to me. Hope you're having a great week so far! joeyquism (talk) 18:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dxneo

Hello Pamzeis, don't judge me but I just finished watching Wednesday and I liked it. So I looked up the lead actress and I found this. I will take a look at this article. In the meantime, take 2 minutes of your time to check this out. dxneo (talk) 09:49, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At first glance, I would say the article is well formatted and cited to decent sources, although I don't really trust Yahoo! News (ref 154). dxneo (talk) 09:49, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Removed Yahoo! News

I suggest you expand the lede/lead a little bit. This is a very long article, and those 3 short paragraphs don't really summarize or highlight the important keys to get the full attention of the readers. dxneo (talk) 09:49, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I've expanded the lead slightly, though I do believe it touches on all the major parts of her career. A lot of the stuff she's well-known for now has been very recent, so I'm trying to avoid recentism and stuff

On the Awards and nominations section, I see |rowspan= is used were necessary or possible, but not on the "Nominated work" row, specifically, on Wednesday. Any reason behind that? dxneo (talk) 09:58, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I think it has to do with accessibility. I don't remember exactly, but I believe rowspans are to be avoided if they go across rows; like this, kinda:

Example header	Example header
Foo	Bar
Foo	Bar

- (I don't think I explained that very well, but I'm not really sure how to)

[Not really necessary]. I suggest you use {{sister project links}} for External links. You could just copy and paste this below:

{{sister project links|collapsible=true|c=Category:Jenna Ortega|d=Q21738166|voy=no|v=no|species=no|wikt=no|b=no|s=no|n=no|q=Jenna Ortega}} dxneo (talk) 10:14, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- Done

One paragraph sections are often discouraged. I think merging Early life and Personal life to produce Early and personal life would be great. Thoughts? dxneo (talk) 10:24, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi, dxneo. I couldn't find explicit guidance in MOS for this (though I could be overlooking something). I know shorter subsections (i.e. anything more than a level-3 header) are generally discouraged, but I don't see anything about one paragraph sections. That aside, I'm not keen on merging the Early life and Personal life sections as I feel like they cover different time periods in her life; for "Early life", it talks about her life and background as a child before she was more well-known, as well as how she got into acting. "Personal life", on the other hands, discusses her views as an adult and the current aspects of her life. I feel merging these sections would be a bit confusing and make it harder to navigate the article as it disrupts the flow (going from childhood events in the past to adult views in the present). Many other FA-class actors' articles, such as Tom Holland and Nicholas Hoult, also keep these sections separate.

Hey, dxneo. I've implemented some of your suggestions and responded to others. Let me know if there's anything I need to clarify or anything else you feel should be adjust. Apologies for the late reply BTW; I have not been so active on wiki lately. If you're still interested in Ortega, I hope you check out some of her other projects (The Fallout is amazing IMO). Also, I'm sorry for not reviewing the Tyla PR, but I'll see if I can check out the FAC within the coming days. Thanks for your comments! Hope you have a great rest of your weekend :) Pamzeis (talk) 05:56, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for addressing the issues. I really do think that the article is ready for FAC + this PR has been up for almost 5 months now. Hopefully you'll make it to the Tyla FAC before it is archived in two days. Again, thank you. dxneo (talk) 07:35, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Query from Z1720

@Pamzeis: It has been over a month since the last comment, and this has been open for several months. Is this ready to be closed and nominated for WP:FAC? Z1720 (talk) 02:48, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]