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This article has formerly been a Featured Article and has appeared on the main page in 2005. It recently lost its FA status. Since then, it has undergone a lot of cleanup, and I think it is now closer to current FA standards; however, it has also attracted a certain amount of additional original research, leading me to slap several citation tags on it. I'd like to see the article restored to its former glory and would appreciate any comments on what should now be done. Note that I am far from being a main author of this; I have a vague interest in the subject matter and arguably some copyediting skills, but that's all. I'd need a lot of help in areas such as referencing, but my suspicion is that some of the unreferenced claims should simply be deleted. Comments? Metamagician3000 06:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Good luck. I added some of the references from Maiden's official bio during the FAR process and tried improving the article, but a few editors always prove unhelpful on this article. The Seventh of a Seventh Son is one example - yes it is a concept album, but it was by no means based on a specific book. LuciferMorgan 19:33, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Further comment By the way, if there's anything else I can use from the book to cite etc. , I'll do so. The main problem in the article is the damn commentary on each album - ie. more accessible, darker etc. - this is all original research. What wouldn't be original research though is if the article stated something like "Metal Hammer commented that the album ...., while Kerrang thought ...." This would go a long way to improving the article and ridding of the original research. LuciferMorgan 19:39, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Nod. Nod. This aspect may be very difficult to clean up, because I'm sure the people who wrote it in that way are not going to accept excisions lightly ... and I, for one, don't have the grasp of the review literature sources to put in citations like that. My more immediate worry was blatantly unsourceable stuff, such as the well-intentioned people who keep wanting to put in what they heard someone say onstage at a concert. This article may be hard to rescue, but it's a shame because it's so good in other ways. Metamagician3000 00:04, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • CommentsThe third paragraph in the lead, is too short and surely can be re-worded and merged with another.
  • The fourth paragraph is all about the bands mascot, is this about Maiden or Eddie?.
  • Possibly with the titles you could add years like (1982-1985) so it's clear what era it's talking about, this is done on almost all band FAs.
  • Iron Maiden's eponymous 1980 release, Iron Maiden, made number 4 on the UK charts in its first week of release, "made number 4" how about debuted
  • The images need fair use rationales
  • The picture in the infobox, will fail the fair use criteria #1, that "no free alternative is available" also 3/5 of the image is sky.
  • Reference 21 has a space
  • Iron Maiden were named the third best metal band of all time on VH1 Classic: Top 20 Metal Bands. [1] external link
  • "Classic Line-up" is POV
  • Personnel you have "For a complete list, see List of Iron Maiden band members" then the first link under 'See also' is a link to the band members, also the last link under see also is an external jump
  • Bruce Dickinson website, Paul Di'anno (former vocalist) website. This is about the band as a whole not a single member. Add a link to their Myspace(if they have one), last.fm or Billboard.com
  • One of the most if not the most influential metal bands ever, maybe under legacy you can write some bands they influenced

Goodluck with this, and finding all those citations. M3tal H3ad 03:08, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question.

  • Per Wikipedia:Context and Wikipedia:Build the web, years with full dates should be linked; for example, link January 15, 2006.[?]
  • As per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates), dates shouldn't use th; for example, instead of using January 30th was a great day, use January 30 was a great day.[?]
  • Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings), headings generally do not start with articles ('the', 'a(n)'). For example, if there was a section called ==The Biography==, it should be changed to ==Biography==.[?]
  • There are a few occurrences of weasel words in this article- please observe WP:AWT. Certain phrases should specify exactly who supports, considers, believes, etc., such a view.
    • allege
    • apparently
    • might be weasel words, and should be provided with proper citations (if they already do, or are not weasel terms, please strike this comment).[?]
  • Please make the spelling of English words consistent with either American or British spelling, depending upon the subject of the article. Examples include: behaviour (B) (American: behavior), organize (A) (British: organise), recognise (B) (American: recognize), criticize (A) (British: criticise), ization (A) (British: isation).
  • Please provide citations for all of the {{fact}}s.
  • Please ensure that the article has gone through a thorough copyediting so that it exemplifies some of Wikipedia's best work. See also User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a.[?]

You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Automated review, M3tal H3ad 09:04, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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