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This peer review discussion has been closed.
While this is an unreleased game, it has been suggested for the WP:FTC for the Guitar Hero series that it may be good to complete a PR for this article as to be able to include it in the topic; irregardless or not, I think it is helpful to get a PR done on this to start with.

Thanks, MASEM 16:46, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from User:Randomran

I've had a chance to look at it so far. Overall, it's well-written and well-referenced. The problem is the topic is highly unstable. It's comprehensive in the sense that you cover everything that's known, but it can never be comprehensive until the game is actually released. That said, there are a few things you can do to improve the quality right now:

  • I'm not sure the organization of the gameplay section is ideal. I would prefer to see shorter paragraphs and sections, while still avoiding stubs and scattered sentences.
    • The lead of the gameplay section might be better organized if you recapped the basic gameplay, and then spent the remainder of the section focusing on new features.
    • The instruments section might be better organized if you separated the enhanced guitar from the new instruments altogether.
    • The characters section is great. I think the other sections would be more manageable if they were at that level.
    • You can take or leave these suggestions, if you think there's a better way to lay this information out and simplify these mega paragraphs/sections.
    • It might be enough to use better "topic sentences" for each of these paragraphs.
      • In fact, this might help some of the paragraphs throughout the rest of the article. That first sentence should tie together what you're about to read.
  • A lot of the references don't use templates.

Once again, the prose and the research are both pretty solid for such inherently unstable content. I only found a few grammatical and spelling issues which I have fixed. Just keep the article organized as new information becomes available. Randomran (talk) 17:50, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Review by Guyinblack25

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I realize this article will be drastically different when the game is released, but here are the issues that stood out to me; mainly grammatical.

The lead
  • Minor trimming, unnecessary "also"
    "A version of the game has also been rated by the ESRB..."
  • Should it be "in" instead of "of"? Also minor trimming.
    "...Guitar Hero World Tour will be the first game ofin the Guitar Hero series to feature the drum and microphone controllers."
Gameplay
  • I noticed that some mode names later in the article are written in quotes, but the first section of gameplay does not. I believe either way is fine as long as it is consistent.
  • Instead of this:
    "Guitar Hero World Tour will build on the existing gameplay from previous Guitar Hero games. The Star Power feature which has appeared throughout the Guitar Hero series is coming back."
    Try this:
    "Guitar Hero World Tour will build on the existing gameplay from previous Guitar Hero games and include several older features; for example, Star Power."
  • Split this sentence up. it seems like the two ideas conveyed aren't connected enough:
    "The difficulty levels include a new difficulty called "Beginner", as well as the regular difficulty modes (Easy, Medium, Hard, and Expert),. thisThis Career Mode will allow players to drop to a lower difficulty without restarting their careers if they have difficulty with one song."
  • Clarify; restart the game or the system? I would also move this sentence after the next sentence mention what all the instruments are: "The player will also be able to switch to a different instrument during the same Career without having to restart"
  • Clarify: I assume this is suppose to be two or more players:
    "When multiple players with differing progress play together, Aa player that has not progressed as far as another player's band will still gain benefits for successfully completing songs when playing together.
  • Switch "will" --> "can"/"are able to". The player is not guaranteed to activate star power:
    "A player on drums willcan activate Star Power by..."
  • Weasel word, "yet again":
    "Like the previous game, Aartists are writing new original songs yet again for their battles."
Instruments
  • Sounds more encyclopedic to me. Your choice though.
    "Older Guitar Hero guitar controllers will still workbe compatible with World Tour."
  • Missing commas:
    "...the existing Rock Band instrument controllers, as well as other third party controllers, will also work in...
Development
  • I would try to avoid proseline as the article progresses.
Soundtrack
  • Gamer jargon: "downloadable content" --> "content available for download". At least introduce it in laymen terms followed by (downloadable content).
  • The last part about IGN seem tacked on. I would start the sentence with it.
    "IGN has also reported that Wwhile there will be a renewed commitment to downloadable content, existing downloadable songs for Guitar Hero III will not be playable in World Tour, according to IGN."
  • Some of the content in the paragraph right after the confirmed song list seems to border on synthesis. However, I'm sure this won't be an issue once the game is released, so I'm not going to comment on that paragraph and the one after it.
Custom songs
  • I believe having text sandwiched between to images is discouraged.
  • Minor trimming, the "and" distributes the "to" to both parts of the sentence:
    "Guitar Hero World Tour will allow players to create their own songs and to share them with others through..."
  • This sentence looks lonesome by itself. I would first find a source for it and then add it to another paragraph. "Guitar Hero World Tour will be using Line 6 POD technology to emulate more realistic guitar sounds."
  • Run on sentence; break it up:
    "Custom songs will be able to be uploaded to the "GH Tunes" service, which will be used to allow other players to rate songs, and toas well as search and download songs by these ratings, and. Neversoft will include a Showcase by Neversoft to offer some of the best user works alongside new songs from popular artists."
Downloadable content
  • More gaming jargon: "DLC"
References
  • Are consolehero.com and videogamesblogger reliable sources?
  • Ref 37 is a YouTube video
  • some of refs have the dates wikilinked but with double brackets displayed around them as well.

There you go. It's a somewhat lengthy list, but addressing these issues should remove any doubt of the article joining the topic. The article is well on its way to GA and FA, but grammar, structure, accuracy needs to be monitored (as I'm sure you're already aware of). Hope it helps. (Guyinblack25 talk 18:40, 1 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Can I ask for a recheck of the article? I've done significant work to fix most of the above problems (including fixing the references, though I had to replace the youtube with a consolehero ref -- consolehero's not too bad at this point, and it's only for pre-release info). --MASEM 15:46, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
After re-reading, I noticed there are still some lengthy sentences that could be split up or reworded, and the gameplay section still needs some clarification for the average reader. (Guyinblack25 talk 18:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]