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I've just written up this article after a fellow WP:HMM participant recommended it to me, and now I would like to know what I can do to push it that little bit further up to Good Article standard. It's only short, but they are a side project that has released one album, so it is hard to write much. Not sure which areas may need work, and I am open to all suggestions.

Thanks. J Milburn 12:10, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I have done everything recommended. Is this now ready to be nominated for Good Article? J Milburn 22:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is ready, though I hope you don't mind continuing with peer review suggestions. LuciferMorgan 23:16, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Of course not! I still welcome all suggestions, and I'll nominate now. J Milburn 23:18, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LuciferMorgan

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  • Comments;
  • Shortly afterwards, Lex Icon left the project, and was replaced with Tony White of Minis Tirith.[1] - The Rockdetector interview gives more information on this, and Shagrath explains why Lex Icon had to leave the band. This could be added, and would give the reader a better understanding of the situation. LuciferMorgan 12:18, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Done (I think- not sure if that's what you mean.) J Milburn 13:01, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • One critic finished his review with the thought that the album "might not be smartest record of 2006, but it is the sweatiest."[9] - Please name the critic, and the publication the review was written for. LuciferMorgan 12:25, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Done J Milburn 12:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • The album was praised for being fun and catchy,[8] but one reviewer said it seemed as though the band ends up having more fun than the listener.[10] - Praised by which critic, and for which publication? Who's the "one reviewer", and what publication was he writing for? LuciferMorgan 12:53, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Done J Milburn 13:08, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Done J Milburn 13:34, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • It was this lineup that entered the Panzer Studio in Oslo to record the bands first album, Doomsday Rock 'N' Roll.[1] - They entered on December 4, 2005 as can be read here. Also, they inked a deal with Nuclear Blast in February 2006. LuciferMorgan 13:20, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Done, but do you have a reference for the February 2006 part? J Milburn 13:45, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The news article announces that the band have a record deal, and it's dated February. Usually, the news sites receive the press releases and publish them within a day or two. LuciferMorgan 13:54, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Done J Milburn 15:25, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've incorporated it. J Milburn 15:57, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • It was this attitude that lead critics to speculate about whether Shagrath could still be taken seriously in the black metal community.[10][2] - I don't like this sentence, and not too sure where this impression was given. I, as one of those two critics, didn't speculate upon this. I happen to like Dimmu Borgir and this band, though if there's any question that I asked which gave this false impression feel free to say. LuciferMorgan 13:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, seems you don't say that, apologies. The other critic doesn't really seem to say it either, and, to be fair, despite what I expected, I can't really find anything saying that- quite the contrary, I came across an interview with Shagrath saying how surprised no one had really said it. Ok, I'll remove it. J Milburn 15:57, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No problem - it's an easy thing to do when working on an article. Only thing I seemed to rankle on about in the interview was the Motorhead comparison, which is something he responds to. Some good work thus far! LuciferMorgan 16:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot, most useful, I've incorporated it. J Milburn 22:42, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Although the album was described as being unoriginal,[13] this was reputedly made up for by the amount of talent with which the music was performed.[12] - Reviewers and publications? LuciferMorgan 23:17, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Done J Milburn 23:32, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Bjorn Bergersen produced the album, which is mentioned in a question during the Rockdetector interview. It may be mentioned elsewhere also. The fact he produced the album is verified by the official press release I sent you, so this information could be incorporated into the article. LuciferMorgan 23:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Done J Milburn 23:48, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Musical style section could be significantly expanded. Using the Rockdetector interview I did as an example, I've noticed the following relevant information;

Rockdetector: What can one expect in future material from CHROME DIVISION?

Shagrath - "It's a band like AC/DC – when you buy an AC/DC album you know what you get. Musically it'll be the same thing, but we'll try to add different ingredients to the music. Maybe we'll also change the lyrical content."

Rockdetector: During rehearsals in the band's early days, did you perform cover songs?

Shagrath: "We tried out a few Rock N' Roll jams fused with some TWISTED SISTER. I'm sure when we do live shows we'll perform some more cover songs."

Rockdetector - Are there any particular songs, or bands?

Shagrath - "Some MÖTLEY CRÜE songs from their first album maybe? We'll see."

The Motorhead comparison was particularly picked upon in the Rockdetector interview, as can be seen here;

Rockdetector: It sounded a lot like MOTÖRHEAD to me

Shagrath: "Yeah MOTÖRHEAD also. We don't take direct inspiration from those bands though; you're not gonna see us sit down and think 'now let's make a MOTÖRHEAD song."

There's probably interviews with a lot of other information also. LuciferMorgan 23:32, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've added what Shagrath has said about future releases- I don't think the covers are frightfully relevant. I admit it needs to be expanded- I'll keep my eyes open. J Milburn 23:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't say tehy're essential, but I would say they're relevant for such a section. It helps cover comprehensiveness. Good work thus far, and I can't wait to hear what your next project will be. LuciferMorgan 00:42, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CloudNine

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Good work so far, a few comments:

  • How come the lead states the band is from Sweden, but the infobox origin states Norway? This is confusing, and needs disambiguating.
 Done J Milburn 12:45, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • What's Shagrath's main project? (and who exactly is he?)
 Done J Milburn 12:49, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Unofficially said". Where?
 Done (And I think he has said it in a few other places too- I'll look into that.) J Milburn 12:51, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Who plays what? This should be stated in the first paragraph of the lead.
 Done J Milburn 12:54, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Summer of 2004". Depends which hemisphere you're in as to what time of the year summer is. mid-2004 should suffice. Same with Summer 2007.
 Done J Milburn 12:56, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • You don't need (HTML) in the references; it's implied.
 Done J Milburn 16:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • You may want to decide whether the other band members are notable in their own right, and delink or create the articles accordingly.
 Done J Milburn 22:48, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll add some more comments soon. Keep it up! CloudNine 12:40, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]