Wikipedia:Meetup/Philadelphia/WikiSalon 2020-10-10

Philadelphia WikiSalon, October 10, 2020
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Agenda for WikiSalon, October 10, 2020: Celebrate Women in Science as part of Ada Lovelace Day events worldwide! Feel free to check out these Ada Lovelace Day Seminars from the UK organizers, or sign up for November's Finding Ada Conference for women in STEM.

At this month's WikiSalon we will practice skills we've demonstrated. You can work on suggested activities or your own ideas.

If something is wrong on Wikipedia, you can help us fix it!

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Expectations

If you are new to Wikipedia, we hope you will create an account and make at least one edit during this session. If you have experience already, we hope you will share what you're doing or learn something new. Let us know in the Zoom Chat or during introductions what your goals are.

Attendees

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Dorevabelfiore (talk) 12:39, 10 October 2020 (UTC) Doreva[reply]
Bob Burch
MssLibrarian (talk) 15:52, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
NMcNinney (talk) 16:04, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:09, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
DrKathyShaginaw (talk) 16:11, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Andrea, Dr. Kathy Shaginaw's student.
Pharos (talk) 17:59, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Special mentions

If you want to talk about something that you're working on, or you've created a new article or had a "Did You Know" featured lately, add that here!

Chemist and rare earth scientist Wilhelm Ostwald received a Nobel Prize in 1909.

The article now seems complete, although further upgrades are always welcome. Nolabob (talk) 11:33, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Mark Ockerbloom added a gallery to the Osterholm article. Nolabob (talk) 17:58, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I published a new article on jazz musician Paul Crawford. Bob Burch.

I am upgrading the article on physician-scientist Saul Hertz, per suggestion made at the last WikiSalon Philadelphia. Bob Burch.

I'm continuing to upgrade the article. However, I'd like to discuss the conflict of interest tag that is on the article. Nolabob (talk) 17:58, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For next month, I have been working on Ynes Mexia and can talk about my experience removing copyright violations from this page. I will be done with the work next month.

Finding articles that need work

Category:Women scientists
Category:Women scientists articles needing infoboxes
Category:Women's history stubs
List of climate scientists
Category:Scientist stubs and Category:Science stubs
Women in Red's Articles and Drafts needing improvement;
ArtAndFeminism's Tasks (organized by task)

Women in Science for Ada Lovelace Day

The following articles could use work: feel free to edit any that catch your interest. You can add your name after something to show that you are working on it, and add if you feel the article is sufficiently improved to be taken off next month's worklist. You can also suggest new ideas.

Lochie Jo Allen

Among other things, Lochie Jo Allen was a pioneer in the scientific publication and inclusion of women in fisheries. Needs expansion.

Julie Arblaster

Julie Arblaster is one of many women who are climate scientists. Her article needs sources and an infobox scientist template.

Merav Ben-David

Merav Ben-David could be supplemented with information from Draft:Merav Ben-David.

Margarita Colmenares

Margarita Colmenares is an American environmental engineer and activist and the first woman to serve as President of the Society of Hispanic Professional Engineers, More could be said about her and her work using the sources currently cited on the Wikipedia page. Newer sources would also be helpful.

Verona Conway

Verona Conway is a behavioral ecologist. Her article needs an infobox scientist.

Marty Crump

Marty Crump is a behavioral ecologist. Her article needs an infobox scientist.

Christiana Figueres

Christiana Figueres is a is a Costa Rican diplomat involved in developing the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. The page needs to be rewritten in a more objective manner and properly sourced.

Seems like there has been some editing done here. I think we can remove this one. Dorevabelfiore (talk) 15:35, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rosemary Gillespie

Rosemary Gillespie is an evolutionary biologist. The page about her needs sources.

I will start working on this one - I look forward to learning more about her! *NMcNinney (talk) 16:14, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nancy Hopkins

Nancy Hopkins is a molecular biologist at MIT who has worked on gene expression, viruses, and zebrafish. The article has a lot of unsourced sections and there are materials available.

Laura Huenneke

Laura Huenneke, president of the Ecological Society of America. Needs expansion and sourcing.

Ynes Mexia

Mexican-American botanist Ynes Mexia collected at least 145,000 plant specimens during her career, 500 of which were new species. Most were from Mexico, Peru, and Colombia. Her Wikipedia article needs a lot of help, both organizationally and due to copyright issues. You can see possible copyright violations needing rephrasing at this Copyvio detection report.

After many revisions to remove copyvio and add new sources, it is done! Dorevabelfiore (talk) 03:53, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jan Nolta

Jan Nolta works on stem cell-related regenerative medicine. The page about her needs a careful review and better sourcing.

Annie Trumbull Slosson

Annie Trumbull Slosson was an American author and entomologist. The references need cleaning up and the article contents need better sourcing.

Do you think it would be possible to find a photograph or other image of Slosson that could be used on the Wikipedia? She died in 1926. Nolabob (talk) 14:51, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I found this one from 1926. In January 2021 someone could add this one to Commons as it will then be in the public domain. The photo was taken in 1913, and if we could find it published elsewhere in 1925 or prior, then we can release it sooner.

I sent Bob some additional scanned books sources for this one. Thanks for working on it Bob! Dorevabelfiore (talk) 15:36, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Elke U. Weber

Elke U. Weber is a Professor of Psychology and Public Affairs at Princeton University where she studies the ways in which we think about risk. Stubby article needs a little love.

Evelyn J. Fields

Evelyn J. Fields was a hydrographer and a leader in NOAA and with the NOAA Corps. Her page is not cited well and her accomplishments need clarification and to be listed in chronological order.

Will be working on this one Drlauraguertin (talk) 17:08, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Activities

You can review these skills by watching the Demonstrations. Here are some ideas for things to do:

Women Presidents of the Ecological Society of America

Create or expand Wikidata items about women presidents of the Ecological Society, e.g. Emma Lucy Braun
Example:

Adding archival finding aids to Wikipedia

You can add finding aids from the Spreadsheet of William Way LGBT Center Archives Finding Aids hosted via PACSCL to Wikipedia and update the list to show what you have done.
Example - External Links section of article (Natalie Hinderas):

Natalie Hinderas and Leota Palmer papers, African American Museum in Philadelphia

Adding archival finding aids to Wikidata

You can add finding aids from the Spreadsheet of William Way LGBT Center Archives Finding Aids hosted via PACSCL to Wikidata and update the list to show what you have done.
Example: Barbara Gittings Wikidata Entry - Archives at property

Interlanguage Link Template

Got to this list of Women scientists by nationality and look at the subcategories of nationalities. Click through to find articles of interest. Open the article and look for red links and search for the red-linked text on Wikidata or google to see if there are Wikipedia articles in English or other languages. Add ills as needed.
Go to almost any list of foreign-language writers (c.f. List of Spanish women writers) and click on an article. Look for red links and search for the red-linked text on Wikidata or google to see if there are Wikipedia articles in English or other languages. Add ills as needed.
Example: {{ill | La sonrisa vertical |ca| Premi La Sonrisa Vertical |es| Premio La sonrisa vertical}}
Example: {{ill |Andityas Soares de Moura |WD=Q98276700}}

Library Resources Templates

Consult this list of women science writers and add a library resources box to their page. Use the author namestring (e.g. Faye Flam) to look up the appropriate viaf ID (e.g. VIAF ID: 6861455) on viaf and fill it in.
- Example: {{Library resources box|by=yes|viaf=62289315}}
Many of the editions at A Celebration of Women Writers were created before there were Library Resources Templates. You can search Wikipedia for articles about these authors and add {{Library resources box|by=yes |onlinebooksby=yes|others= |lcheading= |viaf= }}. Use the author namestring (e.g. Adami, J. George (John George), 1862-1926) to look up the appropriate viaf ID (e.g. VIAF ID: 62289315) on viaf and fill it in.
- Example: {{Library resources box|by=yes |onlinebooksby=yes|others= |viaf=6861455}}

Questions

Add questions that you have about Wikipedia or Wikipedia projects (Encyclopedia articles, Wikimedia Commons images, Wikidata) either here or in the Chat. Also feel free to suggest resources in response, and discuss during WikiSalon.

I'd appreciate having an on-going discussion of Wikipedia's sister projects during the WikiSalon meetings.

If you're interested in learning (or talking about) a particular project, let us know!
Perhaps WikiQuotes would be a good one to discuss soon. It strikes me as being particularly useful, if it ever catches on. Nolabob (talk) 11:20, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe another one to discuss is WikiVoyage. Nolabob (talk) 18:00, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proper citations are indispensable to any good Wikipedia article. However, with the decline of print media, citations in Wikipedia articles are more dependent on on-line citations which may not be permanent. How does Wikipedia manage the transient nature of these citations? How should Wikimedians manage citations in this regard?

The issue of whether any lasting record of electronic media will continue to exist, comparable to printed media, has relevance far beyond Wikipedia. A number of archiving projects attempt to record electronic publications and capture the ephemeral nature of the internet. One of the best known is archive.org whose Wayback Machine has been used for decades to store copies of electronic pages from websites.
Wikipedia has the capability of Help:Using the Wayback Machine to do lookups of no-longer-available urls and to serve pages that no longer exist. However, this will only work if the page has previously been archived. It is possible to request the archiving of existing pages on archive.org and to look up urls that no longer appear to work, and add template code that will retrieve archive.org's stored value.

How do you know a permanent url when you see it?

Permanent urls (PURLS or permalinks) are urls that are written in a way that is supposed to remain usable even if underlying computer systems or sites change their link structure. Non-permanent urls can change over time, even from one session to the next. The url that is shown in your browser may not be the permanent url; it may be a temporary form that the permanent url has been converted to by the computer software.
It is desirable to use a permanent url in a Wikipedia citation or a Wikidata reference because it is more likely to continue to work and to be verifiable by someone else.
A finding aid or other web page may explicitly state its permanent url in the page's text. The easiest way to find it is to search for "http". You can also search for URL, PURL, permalink or permanent link. There is no standard for what term is used: some sites may simply cite it: e.g.

Alan G. MacDiarmid, interviewed by Cyrus Mody in University of Pennsylvania on December 19, 2005. Philadelphia: Science History Institute, n.d. Oral History Transcript 0325. https://digital.sciencehistory.org/works/z316q261v

If you see a handle (url containing hdl)that is a permanent URL. DOI's or Digital Object Identifiers are also examples of handles and are permanent links.

In Wikidata, is there a way to import any existing data such as NAF / SNAC or has that already been done as baseline bio data?

SNAC (Social Networks and Archival Context)

SNAC example: Ampère, J.-J. (Jean Jacques), 1800-1864, identifier w6hk0nc4
Wikipedia page: Jean-Jacques Ampère
Wikidata item: Q380824
Wikidata has a property SNAC Ark ID (P3430) which is accepted as an identifier on Wikidata items

NAF (Library of Congress Name Authority File), see Library of Congress Linked Data Service

NAF example: LC control no. n 80153256 authority control for Hetzel, Pierre-Jules, 1814-1886
Wikipedia page: Pierre-Jules Hetzel
Wikidata item: Q552619
Wikidata has an item Library of Congress Name Authority File (Q18912790). It also has a property Library of Congress authority ID (P244) which is accepted as an identifier on Wikidata items.

In Wikidata, is there a controlled list of "types" for archives, such as finding aid, digital collection, online exhibition? What are the type choices?

Thanks and praise

What did you work on today?

Thank you everyone!