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August 26

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False Article

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Hello,

I am trying to edit an article "Sects of Sikhism," but my edits keep getting reverted back. I also got a warning that I might get kicked off of Wikipedia. How do I make changes to this false and misinformation-filled article?Imakaur (talk) 02:03, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I believe I was the one who reverted you on that article. Essentially, changes need to be sourced to a reliable source (you can click this link for an explanation). jp×g 02:04, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, @Imakaur! Your claim "there are no sects in Sikhism" contradicts the entire article and is verifiably false. For that reason your edits have been reverted and if you continue to try to introduce deliberate factual errors to Wikipedia you may be blocked from editing. ––FormalDude talk 02:06, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure about that thing but I want learn

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I'm big man it is a new thing to me to have a smartphone that makes hant to learn things in my life — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.115.112.109 (talk) 02:56, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, and welcome to Wikipedia! I'm glad you're excited to learn new things in your life, that's a fantastic reason to use Wikipedia. Is there anything of particular interest you're wanting to get involved with? By the way, I left a message on here at your talk page with some helpful tips. Happy editing! ––FormalDude talk 03:28, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

creating a new page, but forgot to save and unable to find

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Hi, I was creating a new page and when previewing changes, I left the page. I am unable to see my changes. Where can I find them, as I spent lot of time to edit.

Thanks, Venkata Suresh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venkatasuresh1900 (talkcontribs) 11:33, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Venkatasuresh1900: You have only two contributions: The comment above, and an edit to list of Bunts. You can see this by clicking on the Contributions link at the top of any page if you're using a desktop browser.
You have no deleted contributions, and no contributions that were rejected by tripping an edit filter.
I'd say then, if you created a page, either you didn't click on the "Publish changes" button, or you wrote it in draft space while you were not logged in. ~Anachronist (talk) 11:39, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Venkatasuresh1900: the Wikipedia text editor(s) depend on the capabilities of your web browser. Most browsers will do what yours did if you leave a page that has your input and you then come back to that page. The Wikipedia servers cannot help you with this because you never sent the information to the Wikipedia servers. To avoid this in the future, do not leave the page without first saving ("publishing") your work. For a new article, use your sandbox or a draft page, where you are free to save without worrying about any mess you may have made. When working on an article in main space, I usually take a quick copy (CTRL C) before I leave the page. -Arch dude (talk) 15:25, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Venkatasuresh1900, I've learned from painful experience never ever to compose a response in the edit window more than a sentence or two. For example, I composed this in an external editor, then copy and pasted it in so that if there is a glitch I haven't lost everything. This question comes up many many times so it's obvious that some people think it makes sense to compose in the edit window but it leads to problems. S Philbrick(Talk) 18:48, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Venkatasuresh1900: If you accidentally left the page before saving, you might be able to retrieve your text if you keep using your browser's back arrow until you go back to that page. Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 02:08, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Functional Medicine

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I do not know if I am at the correct place. Recently I looked for information about functional medicine. This is the response.

Functional medicine is a form of alternative medicine that encompasses a number of unproven and disproven methods and treatments.

In all of the years I have been on the computer I found this to be real bad. At this point I will be avoiding WikiLeaks.

John Styffe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:aa12:a880:ae20:7934:9a9b:138c:b96 (talk) 12:32, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you have found this information on WikiLeaks, then no, you are not at the correct place. Wikipedia has nothing to do with WikiLeaks. JIP | Talk 12:39, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, that quote is from the first sentence of Functional medicine, so is a statement from Wikipedia. Like everything else within this encyclopaedia, it is sourced to somewhere else: Wikipedia reports what editors believe to be reliable sources and for articles related to medicine sets a particularly high standard set out in the essay at WP:medrs. If John Styffe believes that the information is "real bad", he should take that up with those who wrote the material on which the article is based, or provide alternative sources that might be used here to enhance the article. This can be discussed at Talk:Functional medicine. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:32, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So then he just got the names "Wikipedia" and "WikiLeaks" mixed up. JIP | Talk 14:45, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One Riot One Ranger

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The subject and title of the article "One Riot One Ranger" is misleading. The history and origin of the phrase relates to Bill McDonald only, not Jay Banks. By titling the article "One Riot One Ranger," the history and person who coined it are being associated with a controversial story/person.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8081:5202:1100:84e:4104:e68b:36f4 (talkcontribs) 26 August 2021 14:02 (UTC)

I can see that an IP user - presumably you - has edited One Riot, One Ranger a couple of times, and has been reverted. The thing to do is to discuss this matter with other editors on the article's talk page Talk:One Riot, One Ranger. I note that the only mention of McDonald in the article is in the lede: unless somebody cites a source that definitively connects the statue with McDonald, I think that phrase should be removed from the article. --ColinFine (talk) 14:52, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question about being blocked

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Why was i blocked from creating articles from Wikipedia? I don't understand why.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2c0f:f4c0:209a:568c:ecbd:9b7c:3309:efe5 (talk) 16:21, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, IP user. As far as I can see, your edits on the Galjoen article were reverted because they were not made correctly. You have not been blocked from creating articles (although if you are a new editor I'd strongly advise against trying to do so before you gain much more experience) and you certainly aren't blocked from editing, as evidenced by the fact you were able to post here at the Help Desk. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:17, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You're not "blocked" as such, IP user, but unregistered users, and very new accounts, are not allowed to create articles in mainspace - mostly, I believe, to guard against that form of "drive-by" vandalism. You can if you wish use the articles for creation process to create a draft, which you can then develop and submit for review. I would caution, though, that successfully writing a new article is hundreds or thousands of times more difficult than people realise who have not done much Wikipedia editing, and people who try it before they are prepared typically have a great deal of frustration and disappointment. I liken it to building a house: the question "Why can't I build a house" is best answered (in most cases) by "because you haven't yet learnt to build, so your house will almost certainly be a horrible botch-up, and will probably fall down. Spent some time learning the trade first". When you are ready to take on this challenging task, your first article is where you will find the best advice. --ColinFine (talk) 17:22, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
ColinFine, I have considered a number of analogies — "I want to take up jogging so where do I sign up for the marathon", "I decided to take a mountain climbing and so can I get directions to Mount Everest" but I like the building a house analogy. I think many people can appreciate what it takes to build the house, and recognize if the goal is to build a house, it requires skills working on small projects first. It may not be impossible building a house as your first carpentry project will succeed but it is very unlikely. S Philbrick(Talk) 18:44, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi IP user! If you created an account on Wikipedia that was blocked, then the user talk page should have a message to explain why you were blocked. If this is the case and you don't understand why you were blocked, please provide the Wikipedia username that was blocked. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:12, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's a question of putting a table within the frame parameters

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Q: It's a question of putting a table within the frame parameters.

{{{Content|}}}} If you put a table in the parameter together, it will not be recognized. Of course, we can use a pipeline avoidance frame, which is very cumbersome. Is there any other way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rlakk00 (talkcontribs) 16:27, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rlakk00: I don't understand your question. Could you please provide us an example here, or provide a link to a page with an example? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:13, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]