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August 27

article submission

hi my username is wikipublish7 and I just edited an article about a famous basketball player name yvan ouedraogo, the precedent draft was declined because the person who did it, did it really bad without enough informations, and I need you to review my article because this player deserve a wikipedia article as much as the other basketball player of his level who already have one https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:Yvan_Ouedraogo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipublish7 (talk • contribs) 02:27, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikipublish7, it appears the draft has been resubmitted for review already. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:50, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Wikipublish7: a reviewer reviews a draft based on the information provided in the draft. The reviewer does not try to find additional information. If there are additional sources, then they should be cited in the draft. Since the draft did not provide enough information to establish notability by our definition the submission was declined. Please see WP:NSPORT. See WP:CSMN for common mistakes in sourcing. -Arch dude (talk) 04:09, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Wildcat Strikes

Wildcat Strikes Last for days and even weeks and could Last forever. 68.102.42.216 (talk) 02:36, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, but if there is information missing from an article, you should start a discussion on that article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 04:51, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Forever? Clarityfiend (talk) 07:45, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Using an example from a paper/textbook or thesis

Hello, I wanted to use a numerical example I found in a thesis (about calculating a quantity called GBE). What is the best way of citing a source in situations like this that I want to use their calculation in an article? For example, here, it is said Consider an example adopted from John Bitzan’s Transportation Economics Notes, Let X be a binary variable that is equal to 1.... Can I just use a similar language and cite the source? Is that enough according to Wikipedia policies and guidelines? Thank you for your help. Pirehelo (talk) 03:22, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Pirehelokan: I haven't done writing in this field, but the first thing that strikes me is that enwiki is not supposed to write using the "we" and "consider" prevalent in math texts (see WP:TONE in general and MOS:MATH#TONE more specifically). I think it can be re-phrased and cited to the source, like any subject. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 19:53, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Then what about this text in the article homeomorphism?

The third requirement, that ${\textstyle f^{-1}}$ be continuous, is essential. Consider for instance the function ${\textstyle f:[0,2\pi )\to S^{1}}$ (the unit circle in ${\textstyle \mathbb {R} ^{2}}$) defined by${\textstyle f(\phi )=(\cos \phi ,\sin \phi )}$. This function is bijective and continuous, but not a homeomorphism (${\textstyle S^{1}}$ is compact but ${\textstyle [0,2\pi )}$ is not). The function ${\textstyle f^{-1}}$ is not continuous at the point ${\textstyle (1,0)}$, because although ${\textstyle f^{-1}}$ maps ${\textstyle (1,0)}$ to ${\textstyle 0}$, any neighbourhood of this point also includes points that the function maps close to ${\textstyle 2\pi }$, but the points it maps to numbers in between lie outside the neighbourhood.

It contains the word "consider". How should it be written in the correct tone?

And on a related note, although you don't necessarily see it here, on my screen the article text splits "${\textstyle 2\pi }$" and "," on separate lines, causing what appears to be a typography error. How can they be forced to be on the same line? JIP | Talk 20:31, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@JIP:, @AlanM1: Thank you for your answers. My bigger concern is about the way citing the source. Should we explicitly mention the source of the example or just citing it is enough? Thanks again. Pirehelo (talk) 21:59, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Pirehelokan: If the article is about the math, and not really about how that person contributed to it, the cite should be enough. If his contribution were key to the result, it might be worth mentioning him in the prose.

@JIP: I try to start formulas on a new line so they have as much room as possible. I'll note that the formula above does not break for me – the whole thing appears on one line or the next (Win10/Firefox). You could try wrapping it in {{Nowrap|<math> ... </math>}} like this: ${\textstyle f:[0,2\pi )\to S^{1}}$

—[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:26, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

I know the formula doesn't break for everyone. Not everyone is using the same window size as I am. But anyway, thanks for the suggestion about nowrap. JIP | Talk 00:22, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Great! Thank you. Pirehelo (talk) 05:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Sushant Singh Rajput death or murder

discuss at Talk:Death of Sushant Singh Rajput

It is under investigation, so don't mention by "hanging" , this is total arbitrary to write on one's death which is under investigation.157.32.141.230 (talk) 05:27, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Source - open YouTube , Google it , read newspaper. This is more appropriate for Talk:Sushant Singh Rajput or Talk:Death of Sushant Singh Rajput. You will need specific reliable sources to support your claim, not just "Google it". – Teratix ₵ 05:40, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Please also see #Containt is not correct above and read / follow the links there. Eagleash (talk) 09:29, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

How do I create a new Wikipedia article for my grandfather?

Can someone please talk me through step by step how I create anew Wikipedia article on my Grandfather? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlesbarlin (talk • contribs) 07:18, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Charlesbarlin: I've written this set of instructions, as part of a larger guide covering a variety of issues new users face. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:57, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Ayurveda (2)

Sir, I want to request you to modify introduction part of Wikipedia Ayurveda page. In this page it is mentioned Ayurveda as pseudoscientific, protoscience and quackery. Which is not true. Ayurveda is origin of medicine and surgery and base on scientific theory. The Indian Medical Association have no right to say anything on Ayurvedic system of medicine.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎ 47.29.202.178 (talk • contribs) 27 August 2020 07:19 (UTC)

The content is sourced. Wikipedia relies on what the sources state. See #Ayurveda section above and for anyone interested there is also a thread at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Talk:Ayurveda. Curious that a national medical association has 'no right' to comment on matters related to medicine. Eagleash (talk) 09:50, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Archived.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:05, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Issue uploading my companies new logo

Hi there,

I am having issues uploading my companies new logo onto our page.

Can you please help.

Thanks,

Will — Preceding unsigned comment added by CoBeZa (talk • contribs) 07:51, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

For us to offer help, we will need to know the nature of the issue. New users can't upload images right away. I'm not sure if you are aware of the steps described at WP:UPIMAGE? You may need to make a request at Files For Upload. 331dot (talk) 07:58, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@331dot: they seem to have run into an abusefilter on commons. The main question is a) is CoBeZa allowed to license the logo of this company under a CC license; b) if he can, is this truely what he wants (CC-BY-SA 4.0 is very free anc c) can it be tagged as {{own}}. If it cannot, OTRS permission is probbably required. (Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and cannot give legal advice. If you have questions about copyright law, ask a lawyer of your trust.) Victor Schmidt (talk) 10:35, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, CoBeZa. Unless you want anybody to be able to reuse or alter your logo for any purpose, I don't think you want to release it under a free licence. Logos are often uploaded to Wikipedia itself as non-free images - see logos. Because of your Conflict of interest you should make an edit request on the talk page of the article about your company (which is not your page, by the way), giving a link to where the new logo can be found. But you must first make the mandatory declaration of yourself as a paid editor. --ColinFine (talk) 11:17, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Abt wikipedia

Just tell me abt wikipedia.org.plz direct connect on my webpage.thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.76.68.230 (talk) 10:31, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

There is no Wikipedia associated with the language code "abt". Lyou may want to search The Wikipedia Homepage with a list of all Wikipedias. Victor Schmidt (talk) 10:37, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Victor Schmidt - I think the language issue is more that the question is asking to "Just tell me about wikipedia.org"; although I have no idea wat the second sentence is. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:44, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

If its that, i recommend having a look at Wikipedia:About or Wikipedia. Victor Schmidt (talk) 10:45, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

I think "plz direct connect on my webpage" means "contact me directly on my web page". Too bad the OP didn't tell us where their web page is. Or maybe they meant their user talk page? JIP | Talk 12:18, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Considering that they created User talk:106.76.68.230 a few hours ago, that seems a likely interpretation, JIP. --ColinFine (talk) 15:56, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Photo upload

Hello, I need help from confirmed users to upload photos to pages I have just created. Thank you SD — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apollocat92 (talk • contribs) 16:59, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Apollocat92: Welcome to Wikipedia. Please make this request at WP:FFU, or you can use the link there to upload to commons without being autoconfirmed. RudolfRed (talk) 17:05, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Deleted BLP and copyright

My first BLP article was deleted due to copyright from https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Donald_E._Letendre

The Unviersity of Iowa owns the copyright for this content and I am publishing on behalf of the University of Iowa. Can you provide examples of an acceptable form of evidence, or guide me to information related to evidence of ownership? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Delabra (talk • contribs) 18:18, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

You'll find advice at WP:Donating copyrighted materials. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:43, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Delabra: Welcome to Wikipedia. Thanks for wanting to add to the encyclopedia, but please be sure to read WP:COI and WP:PAID. There are disclosures you need to make since you are affiliated with the subject you are writing about. RudolfRed (talk) 19:16, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Also, Delabra, even if you can sort out the copyright issue, it is very unlikely that material belonging to the University is appropriate for a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia has basically no interest in anything that the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or that their associates, employers, or institutions say about them. It is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and have not been prompted or provided information by the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject. Furthermore, material published by the university is unlikely to meet Wikipedia's requirements of neutrality. --ColinFine (talk) 23:16, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@David Biddulph:: Thank you.

@RudolfRed:: Thank you.

@ColinFine:: Thank you. I understand and I am familiar with the concepts you raise. This effort started as a way for me to learn my way around Wikipedia using information that I'm familiar with. It's not part of my official job description, so I'll just move on and find a different topic.

Editing Wiki

Hello,

Please where do I start - I need easy pages to begin my journey into the world of wiki editing.

I have passed the adventure TWA now I want to go into real business - and get my hands dirty real quick. Any ideas?LaDinky (talk) 19:48, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@LaDinky: take a look at Wikipedia:Basic copyediting and the pages linked from it. And thanks! -Arch dude (talk) 22:54, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Arch_dude Thank you! I appreciate. LaDinky (talk) 09:25, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Dr Linda Campbell

Dr. Campbell is the Director of the Environment at St Mary's University in Halifax, NS. Along with being Senior Fellow she is deaf and has served on many boards for the environment and representing the deaf. She is a trustee at St Mary's university but on the Board of Trustees of Gallaudet in Washington D.C. She has served on the Canadian Hearing Society's Provincial Board and was Chair of the Governance Committee and was on 2014-2015 Chief Executive search committee. She was the 2009-20 President of the International Great Lakes Research. Her research is focused on containments and sustainability of the water supply. Before arriving at St. Mary's she was a Tier II Canadian Research Chair at Quenn's University Kingston Ontario.

References https://smu.ca/about/board-of-governors-members.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Lp Fairweather (talk • contribs) 23:55, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@David Lp Fairweather: I think you're better off visiting this page Wikipedia:Requested articles. There's a bit of a backlog though. If you're feeling more adventurous, you could visit Wikipedia:Articles for creation, to start an article. The help desk is for specific editing questions. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:30, 28 August 2020 (UTC)