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Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Ref 122 is in the red and I cannot fix it up on this device . Please fix if you can Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 00:35, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Accessdate wrong: It's not 28 August till next week! Eagleash (talk) 03:02, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How long does it take to approve a new page?

Hi there, I just created a new page for Asian Universities Alliance, I'm wondering how long will it take and when will I know that it has been approved? Thanks!! Polo9591 (talk) 05:52, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you're talking about. You created the article in mainspace, not a WP:DRAFT that needs to be approved. Now whether someone will come along and nominate it for deletion is another story. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:36, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The page is awaiting review. There are nearly 5,500 pages in the same situation as of today. Approximately 1700 pages have been reviewed this week but there is not really a set order. A reviewer can propose deletion if they think it is necessary or request improvements. After 90 days, if the page has not been reviewed it should be automatically be indexed by search engines. Eagleash (talk) 11:02, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Language boxes/userpage boxes

Hello. I was wondering how exactly to add a userpage language box? Thanks, MayodKOR (talk) 06:19, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

MayodKOR See Wikipedia:Babel. Decide what level of a language you have e.g beginner, advanced then copy and paste the userbox for the correct language and level and paste it on your user page. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 08:19, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Willbb234: Thanks! Do you know how to put userboxes in a collapsible box? MayodKOR (talk) 08:46, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Willbb234:, Wikipedia:Userboxes has a section on this Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:58, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

mode of conduct

Helpdesk Can

Hello everyone, I am looking for some advice on how to behave on the Wikipedia, because I certainly do not understand the following:

May I call a user that trolls me on my own talk page a troll? I have asked time and time again to please stop bothering me and stop vandalising my talk page.

--2019OutlaweD (talk) 08:13, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, 2019OutlaweD. For general behaviour in Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:Civility. In regards to a case where someone is vandalising or trolling you, do not Bite them - that is what they’re looking for. Ignore them to the best of your ability and they will soon lose interest. If they persist for too long, then it is probably best to take it to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism and report them there. You might want to warn them on their own talk page through a Twinkle message. I hope that helps, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 08:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Could you direct me to the user in question? Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 08:31, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Het Willbb, thanks for your response. To be honest the situation is on the Dutch Wikipedia, but since I now have a block, I can't ask for what I should or should not do. The reality is, that I did exactly what you are telling me not to do: Bite! I went to the users talk page and asked, time and time again, to be left alone. A moderator saw asking to be left alone as a problem, which boggles my mind, to be honest. Because if asking to be left alone repeatedly is an issue, then bothering that person for at least as many times (more, actually), is as well. But the mod disagrees. So, I will not ask you to get involved there. It would not be proper behaviour, I think. But thank you for your willingness to take a look. It restores my faith in the Wikipedia a bit :)

I am thinking to make, not a thrascan, but a Trollcan on my talkpage and dump stuff in there that I don't want to know about. Do you think that people will be offended if I name maybe a link, or a folded section that way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2019OutlaweD (talk • contribs) 08:43, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi 2019OutlaweD. I’m sorry, but I’m not too sure what you’re saying. Your English is really good, especially as a second language (I presume) but I can’t quite understand what you’re asking me? Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 11:09, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019OutlaweD, we can't really help you with things that happen on the Dutch Wikipedia, since we're completely seperate communities. If the trolling continues here, you can just delete the messages off your talk page (some other Wikipedia communities don't allow that). Just remember to not feed the trolls. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:30, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the not to feed the trolls part and not to bite part now. Thanks. I was asking how to handle the situation. My idea is to make a spot, maybe a second user page, like an archive, or a spot that I can fold up and that can be opened by clicking on it. I would deposit things I do not like there, was my thought. I was thinking to jokingly call it Trollcan, instead of thrashcan. That is all.

The original question was: "Is it seen as offensive to call a person a troll when that person is, in fact, trolling"?

Because I am getting the impression that this is the cause for the block.

@Willbb234: Thanks for the compliment, by the way. It is my second language. My father was an English teacher. I often give him the compliments that people give me. He worked hard for it!

--2019OutlaweD (talk) 11:58, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn’t say it is ‘offensive’ as such to call someone a troll, but just not courteous and not a way we communicate here on Wikipedia. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 12:03, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "fold up", but perhaps you are thinking of the functionality described here: Template:Hidden archive top, which allows you to collapse a section of text (there are other, similar functions, such Template:Collapse top). However, if someone is being rude on your talk page, you can simply delete the comment if you wish. Matt Deres (talk) 15:29, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And Thanks everyone!

--2019OutlaweD (talk) 14:51, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Changing a title

Hello,

can someone please help?

I have managed to update the text (which is also in English now) and external reference, but cannot edit the title.

The name of the organisation has changed.

It is now called: CESSDA ERIC (Consortium of European Social Science Data Archives)

https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_European_Social_Science_Data_Archives?veaction=edit

I look forward to hearing how I can update this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArtemisElephant9 (talk • contribs) 11:05, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ArtemisElephant9, the Norwegian Wikipedia is written in Norwegian so I've reverted your edit there (it was also written as an advertisement). If you want to change a name in the Norwegian Wikipedia, go to no:Wikipedia:Flytteforslag. This help desk is for the English Wikipedia. If you want to add an English article, you can use the WP:Article Wizard. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:12, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

version of the article

Good afternoon! How do I know which version of the article is being checked? Thank you for your answer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.249.83.82 (talk) 11:19, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please clarify what you are asking. Which article are you referencing, and what do you mean by "version"? If you type in an article title to search for, you will arrive at the current version. 331dot (talk) 11:22, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

UPD! The situation is as follows: The article has not been published yet, but we have corrected the notes in the draft. More than 40 days have passed - but there is no answer. How do I know that the latest version of the edits has been sent to you for your consideration? We are worried that there is no way to know its status. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.249.83.82 (talk) 12:13, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The current backlog is high, up to 4 months. You are free to change things on your draft. The version that will be reviewed is always the latest one, but the complete page including the previous versions will get moved to mainspace if your draft is approved. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 12:18, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you want us to check that the draft has actually been submitted for review, you need to give us a wikilink to the draft. The contribution record for your IP address show no edits other than this question here. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:07, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

!UPD It's a link to a draft https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:WorkFusion,_Inc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.249.83.82 (talk) 13:40, 23 August 2019 (UTC) The last revisions to the article 40 days ago. The last refusal to publish is 2 months ago. Did you get the latest changes for consideration? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.249.83.82 (talk) 14:17, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It has not been resubmitted for further review. Because the last submission was rejected rather than merely declined you don't have a resubmit button. There is a button with which to ask for advice, but I notice that you have not provided any further independent reliable sources to demonstrate compliance with WP:NCORP since the last review. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:28, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You also need to declare you obvious [[WP:COI] if you edit from this ip, or risk being blocked for not doing so. The signed-in declaration won't cover you if you are logged out Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:54, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Can I display a trimmed Wikimedia image

I am tempted to use https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gopnikslav.jpg to go into Squatting_position#Slav_squat,_rap_squat,_prison_pose_and_jail_pose. But the bottom 35% is taken up by the irrelevant tiled floor which also makes the image longer than necessary. Is it possible to display a trimmed image using display parameters or otherwise ? --Penbat (talk) 12:58, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Penbat. I'm not sure I'm "cool enough" to know what this is supposed to be depicting, but I've cropped it to a fairly standard 3:4. See File:Gopnikslav (cropped).jpg. GMG ^talk 13:10, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Gopnik is a style of anti social attitude and decadence featuring squatting. This isnt the perfect image but the best of a not too good bunch on Wikimedia. This https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Gopnik#/media/File:%D0%92%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA.jpg is better but unfortunately depicts sitting instead of the more usual squatting. --Penbat (talk) 13:24, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We also have {{CSS image crop}} but if the full image does not add value then uploading a cropped image is generally preferred. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:42, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ehh...No offense PrimeHunter, but c:COM:CROPTOOL is vastly less complicated, and I honestly can't think of any situation where I would recommend someone use CSS image crop instead. GMG ^talk 13:49, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Users may not want to learn a script for a single cropping, or upload a new image, and some users cannot run scripts. For an example where the full image does add value but isn't worth displaying in a specific article, clicking the cropped infobox image in Heather Fargo leads to File:Diane Feinstein and Heather Fargo.jpg. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:01, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There's not really much learning to be done. You just drag a box around the crop you want. I just don't see any situation where the tedium of trying to manually guess at specific pixel values is worth being able to pipe an image link. GMG ^talk 17:22, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The technical difference is that {{CSS image crop}} causes the reader's browser to crop the image after it is sent to the reader. c:COM:CROPTOOL and other methods result in a new smaller image on commons that is sent to the reader's browser. If we ask the browser to do the cropping, we must use extra bandwidth to send the larger image every time a user reads the article. In the modern world this is not a big deal for most users, but anyone with a low bandwidth connection will suffer. -Arch dude (talk) 16:58, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How can I get a copy of a deleted article for improvement?

My question was answered by Dismas. Thanks! Cosmic Sans (talk) 18:12, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I recently spent quite a lot of time working on article that was deleted at AfD with closure endorsed at DRV. The article was about a recent court case that has been heard but not yet adjudicated. I wanted to obtain a copy of the article so that I can improve it, and once the decision is handed down, hopefully restore the article as per WP:DELETE. I spoke to the closing admin at DRV and he told me to contact the closing admin for the AfD. The closing admin at the AfD did not respond to my request although they are active elsewhere, so I assume that's not going to happen. Who would I talk to for help? Cosmic Sans (talk) 13:41, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I know there's a category of admins who will get you deleted articles but I can't find that category right now. Maybe Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion will help? †dismas†|^(talk) 14:20, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, I found it 5 seconds later... Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles. †dismas†|^(talk) 14:22, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Cosmic Sans (talk) 18:09, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I was warned that I was writing an autobiography, but I am not writing about myself

I am writing and editing an article about my boss and Wikipedia thinks he's the one writing it. How do I prove that I am not the subject of the article? Jessesmithart (talk) 16:01, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jessesmithart People think you are writing about yourself because your username is that of the person you are writing about. Since you are not Jesse Smith, you will need to change your username; please visit Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS as soon as possible to make a request. After you are renamed, you will need to review and comply with the conflict of interest and paid editing policies(the latter is a Terms of Use requirement and not optional), since you state you are editing about your boss. 331dot (talk) 16:04, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Jessesmithart: Your draft seems rather Promotional which isn’t allowed on Wikipedia. This will have to be changed if your draft is to be accepted. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 16:36, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Getting my page recognized

Ladies & Gentlemen:

I have a Wikipedia page under the name: Dennis E. Flanery or DennisFlannery, not sure which is correct. The page presents my biography and I would like it to pop up when people search for Dennis Flannery or for Dennis E. Flannery. It doesn't seem to work. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,

Dennis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dennisflannery (talk • contribs) 17:46, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"User:Dennisflannery" is just your user page, it's not a Wikipedia article. To create an article, you'll have to use the WP:Article Wizard. Writing an autobiography is strongly discouraged though. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:09, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Dennisflannery: Your user page is for you to tell other editors a small amount about yourself and how you intend to contribute to Wikipedia. It is not for you to create a biography or profile as you might on social media such as facebook etc. Please do not create an autobiography; if you are truly notable in the Wikipedia sense an independent, unconnected editor will likely create a Wikipedia page in due course. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 18:19, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Dennisflannery: You created a practice page at Wikipedia:Tutorial/Editing/sandbox. That is not a Wikipedia article, nor is it your user page. It is a throw-away page you created while taking the tutorial. If you decide to stay around and help us build the encyclopedia, then feel free to create your user page to tell us about yourself as it relates to how you intend to help. If you intended only to add a bio, then you are in the wrong place, no hard feelings, and we hope you find a good place for it on the Internet, such as a blog site. -Arch dude (talk) 19:07, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(The user had written a more recent article at their user page, but it has now been U5'd.) Dennis, you can of course introduce yourself shortly on your user page, but currently all user pages are hidden from search engines. – Thjarkur (talk) 19:15, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Arch dude: As you came late to this discussion you missed the creation and subsequent deletion of User:Dennisflannery. It was tagged for deletion at 18:08 (UTC). (& David B got there before me!) Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 19:20, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Insulting Demonyn

Serote(s) is listed as a demonym for inhabitants of the country El Salvador. “Serote” is literally translate as “shit” or “piece of shit” which totally inappropriate and in bad taste for the lovely people that we are. Someone maliciously may have edited the Wikipedia official page for El Salvador to cause embarrassment and even harm Kindly edit the demonym in question. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Luis Alvarez

Done GMG ^talk 20:12, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]