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[edit]Updation of Old Url with the New Url Globally in all Pages
[edit]Hai,
I am in need of Updation of Old Url with the New Url globally in all Pages. I dont want to do it manually in every page. so, Kindly provide a solution for this by which the old one can be updated with the new one.
Ex : Replace Old Url with New Url
http://www.abcd.com with http://www.abcde.com
With regards, Chaitanya. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anvkc (talk • contribs) 05:16, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- cmc.com has only one link from en.wiki, the one you posted above. See LinkSearch --59.95.121.143 (talk) 05:56, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Redirection of Old Url with New Url Globally in all Pages
[edit]Hai,
I am in need of redirecting an Old Url with the New One globally in all Pages with out updating it manually in each page. i.e for example redirection of http://www.choice.edu with http://www.choice.com
With regards, Chaitanya. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anvkc (talk • contribs) 06:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.
- If you are talking about updating links on Wikipedia pages, you can put a request in at WP:BOTREQ for someone to do it with a bot. Or, you can get AutoWikiBrowser and use its search and replace function to do it yourself. — jwillbur 15:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
User Category
[edit]Can I create a category like User:Scarce for all of my subpages? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 07:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- No, such categories have a unanimous history of being deleted at WP:CFD (and at WP:UCFD, when that used to handle user categories). Use Special:PrefixIndex e.g. this shows all your user pages and you don't even need to add a category to have an up-to-date list. BencherliteTalk 07:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Uh, I have 75 sub pages, I have to do some tagging! Thanks! ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 07:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- You can quickly get to that list by clicking "my contributions" and then "Subpages" at the bottom. And you can display the list on your user page or elsewhere with
{{Special:PrefixIndex/User:Scarce/}}
. Note that user talk subpages are in another name space and can be seen at Special:PrefixIndex/User talk:Scarce/. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:10, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- You can quickly get to that list by clicking "my contributions" and then "Subpages" at the bottom. And you can display the list on your user page or elsewhere with
Deleting a user sub-page
[edit]![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png)
I have a couple of my own sub pages which I moved to have a more accurate name, leaving the original sub page as a redirection to the new name. Is there any way I can delete my own sub pages? There are no links to them. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 07:30, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Put this: {{db-userreq}} on the page, an admin will be by shortly to delete it, only admins can delete pages, even if they are your's ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 07:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, Scarce. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 07:42, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- If you are interested in mass subpage deletion, go to My Preferences and click Gadgets (don't forget to read the disclaimer). Check the box next to Twinkle, or read WP:TW first. Feel free to contact me with further questions ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 07:45, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Twinkle on Konqueror
[edit]I am using the web browser Konqueror. Is it possible to use Twinkle on Konqueror or will I have to use some other anti-vandal tool? Kotiwalo (talk) 07:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Have you tried to get it yet? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 07:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Actually I have, nothing spectacular seemed to happen. Some extra tabs appeared on top of a page but they disappeared when switching pages. This behaviour isn't normal, is it? Kotiwalo (talk) 07:54, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, it is. Have you ever tried Twinkle before? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 07:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Nope. But I just realized that it prints a small error message on the bottom toolbar of the browser (this page contains conding errors) but refreshing the page causes them to disappear and the tabs to appear normally. Kotiwalo (talk) 07:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Those tabs are what Twinkle indeed is. CSD nominates pages for deletion, RPP sends a request that the page be protected....... Twinkle is for completing takes speedily. I'm not too familiar with Konq. ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 08:02, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
The Twinkle script hasn't been tested on Konqueror yet ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 08:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes I know that, but the "not-tested" - argument has never managed to stop me from trying something out. Twinkle seems to work - although a bit wonkily, as pages need to be loaded twice for the tabs to appear. And I haven't tested any of the tabs yet... Kotiwalo (talk) 08:08, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- You should click Last, it's a good test that doesn't require editing ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 08:15, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- You do have JavaScript right? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 08:16, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- I should have, at least. I had my PACket MANager check it. As for the tabs, last did work. But if you're JavaScript literate (I'm not although Iam a nearly professional programmer), here's the error message's a bit more verbose form...
"Error: http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit§ion=41: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: XPathResult" Kotiwalo (talk) 08:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- I tested with Firefox (it being by backup browser) and the tabs worked fine there. The problem is either in Konqueror or (pardon the pun) it's konfig. Kotiwalo (talk) 08:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- The legendary solution - I don't know what I did, or whether I did anything, nor do I know what happened, but now it works - tabs load without reloading the page. I pulled a Homer. Kotiwalo (talk) 08:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Publishing my change management framework
[edit]I had a book on change management published on the subject by Management Books 2000 in October 2008 [ISBN 9781852526054].I have spoken at major conferences and business schools and had articles published in magazines. My book is "The 5 Forces of Change" - see www.5forcesofchange.com .
What is the best way for me to publish my framework for organisational change in Wikipedia? Ideally, I would like to add it to the current section on Change Management(people) and would like to go about it the right way.
Thank you very much.
Anthony Greenfield —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthonyg3 (talk • contribs) 08:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hello Anthony. Wikipedia is not really a good place for publishment, since Wikipedia aims to contain only information that is sourced from outside. Also, should you publish something in Wikipedia, it would be subject to free editing of hundreds of people. Kotiwalo (talk) 08:25, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Hello Mr.Greenfield, please note that Wikipedia has strong policies about conflict of interest and promotional editing. Creating a page about your own book/framework would not be appropriate. The best way for you to ensure that an article about your book is not deleted, would be to write and submit an article at articles for creation. Editors there will review your request and determine if your article is free of conflict of interest and promotional content. If it is deemed an appropriate encyclopedic article, then it will be created. As for adding it into an existing article, doing so is not allowed. Please put a notice that you would like to add it in, on the article's talk page, and other uninvolved users will determine if it should be added or not. Thank you, Fingerz 08:30, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Anthony, as mentioned above, there are two things that you need to bear in mind before submitting an article for Wikipedia: firstly, it isn't an advertising venue for your book; secondly, anything on wikipedia can be freely copied, rewritten, and distributed by anyone. This means that if what you put on here was the same as in your book, you would have to allow anyone to copy it and distribute it (as long as they credit you with it). If this is what you want, then create an article (see Your first article) Be aware that as the creator of the framework, you may have a Conflict of Interest - see Wikipedia's notes on Conflict of Interest PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:32, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I am very confused right now
[edit]Hi, I am very confused right now. I had broken up with by boyfriend 15 years back. It was the consensual decision because we cannot marry to each other because of personal reasons. We both knew this will be very difficult to deal but some how, we dealt it very gracefully. Now we both are marriad and leading good happy life. Now problem is- I met him few days back, and now i am unable to forget him. I do not know about his feeling but I am unable to hide my feeling for him. I had mailed him also. We talked about frequently on phone in past but now he is not contacting me. I am very confused. I know this type of relationship will not get us somewhere still i want to have it. Kindly guide me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreams230609 (talk • contribs) 08:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hello, this page is only for questions relating to how to use Wikipedia. We can't really give relationship advice, sorry. I'd talk to a trusted friend or family member, they would do a much better job seeing as they actually know you. Fingerz 09:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Actually we can give relationship advice (there are no qualified experts in this field as evidenced by the massive relationship failure rate - many people pay for professional marriage counseling and then get divorced anyway - so random advice from Internet strangers is unlikely to be much worse than advice you would get from anyone else), and my advice is to forget your ex-boyfriend. This will take some time, and the way you do it is by removing all evidence of his existence from your life and filling your mind with other things. Your brain is currently running its ex-boyfriend program; you must make it run some other programs, and it certainly can. You did not explain how you met him a few days back. If the circumstances of your meeting were under your control, try to avoid meeting him again. Have sex with your husband at least twice per day until the problem subsides. That should take the edge off. You made your choice 15 years ago and now it is time to be an adult and stick with your choice. --Teratornis (talk) 17:20, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- And just my opinion, but I'd say the last thing to consider would be talking to any "trusted" family members or friends about your feelings. You should strive to maintain radio silence on this one. People who know you will feel an overwhelming urge to gossip. As soon as your "trusted" friend tells one of her "trusted" friends, pretty soon the entire "trusted" circle of friends will be in on it. Also, talking about your obsession will focus your mind on it and deepen the obsession further. Each time we hear or say something, our brains make another copy of it. Instead of talking about your ex-boyfriend, talk only about how much you love your husband and how crazy about him you are. Make a list of the reasons why you married him and focus on those things. --Teratornis (talk) 17:30, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Teratornis, Wikipedia is not a place for relationship counseling, as you claim. And IMHO your above advice is questionable. Have sex with your husband at least twice per day until the problem subsides? What is this? a little insignificant 17:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- And just my opinion, but I'd say the last thing to consider would be talking to any "trusted" family members or friends about your feelings. You should strive to maintain radio silence on this one. People who know you will feel an overwhelming urge to gossip. As soon as your "trusted" friend tells one of her "trusted" friends, pretty soon the entire "trusted" circle of friends will be in on it. Also, talking about your obsession will focus your mind on it and deepen the obsession further. Each time we hear or say something, our brains make another copy of it. Instead of talking about your ex-boyfriend, talk only about how much you love your husband and how crazy about him you are. Make a list of the reasons why you married him and focus on those things. --Teratornis (talk) 17:30, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Actually we can give relationship advice (there are no qualified experts in this field as evidenced by the massive relationship failure rate - many people pay for professional marriage counseling and then get divorced anyway - so random advice from Internet strangers is unlikely to be much worse than advice you would get from anyone else), and my advice is to forget your ex-boyfriend. This will take some time, and the way you do it is by removing all evidence of his existence from your life and filling your mind with other things. Your brain is currently running its ex-boyfriend program; you must make it run some other programs, and it certainly can. You did not explain how you met him a few days back. If the circumstances of your meeting were under your control, try to avoid meeting him again. Have sex with your husband at least twice per day until the problem subsides. That should take the edge off. You made your choice 15 years ago and now it is time to be an adult and stick with your choice. --Teratornis (talk) 17:20, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
WikiQuote for Characters
[edit]This doesn't exactly pertain to the Wikipedia, but can there be WikiQuote page for a character? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, there can be a Wikiquote page for a fictional character. Here's one for Indiana Jones: Indiana_Jones#External links. TheLeftorium 09:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- So you don't have to click on another link, here's the direct link to the quotes page: Wikiquote Indiana Jones Page. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 09:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Or you can just do q:Indiana Jones ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- I meant is there an individual page for characters ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- No, but there is a category for all fictional characters here. TheLeftorium 09:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- I meant is there an individual page for characters ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Or you can just do q:Indiana Jones ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- So you don't have to click on another link, here's the direct link to the quotes page: Wikiquote Indiana Jones Page. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 09:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Multi-lingual contributions and redirects
[edit]Hello, I'm contributing in English, Hebrew & French but my main page is in English. I have two questions:
- How do I set my Fr & Heb user and talk pages to redirect to my English ones?
- I had a problem contributing on the Fr wiki due to lack of sufficient edits. How can I show edit for all projects collectively?
Thanks, Joe407 (talk) 10:16, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- You can use this tool too see how many edits you have made on each project: [1]. TheLeftorium 10:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- You can use a soft redirect for the other talk pages to point to your talk page here. Chamal talk 11:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Assuming that those Wikipedias have enabled a soft redirect template, not all have. – ukexpat (talk) 15:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
How can I create a Wikipedia page for my church?
[edit]Hello, I am trying to create a biography for my church? My church is a notable historic site in Richmond, Virginia and is a National and State historic landmark.
Where do I start?
Please email me at xxxxx or xxxxx
Thank you,
Walter —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robinsonwc (talk • contribs) 10:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Have you taken a look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:Starting an article? They give a lot of advice. TheLeftorium 10:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Your email has been redacted— we will not contact you via email. Looking at your talk page, it appears you have been an editor for a while, but have had a few problems. I left you a welcome with handy links. I suggest you read Wikipedia:Your first article before tackling a new article. If your church is a registered landmark, then you will pass the hurdle of notability, if you properly reference it. What church are you working on? ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 10:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
- Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
- If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. – ukexpat (talk) 13:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- There is a group which works on National Historic Sites articles: Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places. Rmhermen (talk) 20:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
language
[edit]how do you change the language, so that when you go on www.wikipedia.org it is in the language i want,. instead of clicking on the language every time i go on the site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hollyy912 (talk • contribs) 10:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Since it appears that you want the English Wikipedia, simply link to http://wiki.riteme.site ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 11:01, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. You cannot make a setting that takes you directly to a chosen language when your browser gets www.wikipedia.org, but you can give the browser wiki.riteme.site instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:16, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- You can also use http://wikipedia.us, which might be faster to type in. --TheLeftorium 11:25, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. You cannot make a setting that takes you directly to a chosen language when your browser gets www.wikipedia.org, but you can give the browser wiki.riteme.site instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:16, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- If you don't want to use English as your language, if you look at List of Wikipedias, you can go directly to the wikipedia for the language you want (the link is in the column titled 'Wiki' (for example, English will link to wiki.riteme.site, German will link to de.wikipedia.org, etc). Go to the relevant Wikipedia, and then bookmark that as your Wikipedia link. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 11:35, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
i'm bored
[edit]![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Challenge_vs_skill_Commons.jpg/250px-Challenge_vs_skill_Commons.jpg)
what can i do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.219.84.207 (talk) 15:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Click "Random Article" on the navigation menu on the left and learn something. -- kainaw™ 15:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- See Flow (psychology). According to the theory of Positive psychology, boredom occurs when your environment provides few challenges and your relevant skills are middling. To experience the pleasurable, absorbing sensations of "flow", you must have high challenges and a high level of corresponding skill. It is easy to find challenges on Wikipedia, but developing the skill to take advantage of them requires work. Start by reading H:TMM. --Teratornis (talk) 16:56, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- And see Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi: Creativity, fulfillment and flow on YouTube; presentation at the February, 2004 TED conference. --Teratornis (talk) 17:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- See Flow (psychology). According to the theory of Positive psychology, boredom occurs when your environment provides few challenges and your relevant skills are middling. To experience the pleasurable, absorbing sensations of "flow", you must have high challenges and a high level of corresponding skill. It is easy to find challenges on Wikipedia, but developing the skill to take advantage of them requires work. Start by reading H:TMM. --Teratornis (talk) 16:56, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
help
[edit]can you help me to make my article acceptable and publish it in wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ariadne-Libera (talk • contribs) 16:10, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Since Eco ethnical is your only article, I'll have to tell you: I'm afraid not. Wikipedia is not a place for publicizing new concepts, but rather a reference work. In addition, frankly, this particular essay conflates two totally different words, "ethic" and "ethnic", in a rather bizarre way, and would probably never be salvagable as a college paper or other assignment. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:20, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
How can I translate an article that already exists in English into another language?
[edit]Hi,
I'd like to translate into Spanish an article that already exists in English on the WSOPE. How can I do that?
Thanks, Evimares —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evimares (talk • contribs) 16:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Go to the Spanish Wikipedia and start writing. --59.95.111.95 (talk) 16:56, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Read the links under WP:EIW#Translate for instructions. --Teratornis (talk) 16:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Image Correction
[edit]I am unsure where to request that the image for Texas' 14th Congressional district be corrected. The county name is written as "Gavelston" rather than "Galveston" (in grey; the city name is correct). I tried to see whether I could get another, similar image from the National Atlas site listed as a source, but am not sure how to do that. The original uploader does not seem to have an active user page. —Magda (talk) 18:01, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- As this is the version on the National Atlas's site, they are the ones who would need to correct it. Interestingly, the image uploaded is at [2], but the one at [3] is correctly labelled, but with other details missing. I'm not sure how to change them, but that's the image that needs changing. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 18:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Incidently, I think the one uploaded is the previous version of the district map (109) as opposed to the current (110) - I know that the districts change from time to time, hence the different maps? Someone more knowledgeable than me will probably answer about this. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 18:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- The Graphic Lab/Map workshop May be able to help.--SPhilbrickT 16:05, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- Incidently, I think the one uploaded is the previous version of the district map (109) as opposed to the current (110) - I know that the districts change from time to time, hence the different maps? Someone more knowledgeable than me will probably answer about this. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 18:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- As this is the version on the National Atlas's site, they are the ones who would need to correct it. Interestingly, the image uploaded is at [2], but the one at [3] is correctly labelled, but with other details missing. I'm not sure how to change them, but that's the image that needs changing. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 18:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Map workshop
How to report factual inconsistencies between articles
[edit]![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png)
Where would I report what I believe to be an inconsistency between facts in articles that reference each other? I was reading the Waterboarding article and noticed thew following with links:
"By forced suffocation and inhalation of water, the subject experiences drowning and is caused to believe they are about to die."
I clicked on "drowning" and found the following:
"Drowning is death from suffocation (asphyxia) caused by a liquid entering the lungs and preventing the absorption of oxygen leading to cerebral hypoxia and myocardial infarction."
Since waterboarding is still a hotly debated issue, would be best to ensure facts presented are actual facts... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.110.180.162 (talk) 19:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, I've changed it to: "the subject experiences the sensation of drowning" how's that sound? Also in future you can make these kind of requests on article talk pages, please just ask if you'd like someone to explain how to use talk pages, or look here: Help:Talk, kind regards SpitfireTally-ho! 20:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- If you feel you can't fix an issue like this, you can tag it with {{contradict-other}}. See the template documentation for use. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 20:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks and sorry... wasn't sure where, what or how to provide feedback. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.110.180.162 (talk) 01:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
How long does it take for my edit or additions to show up?
[edit]I made changes or additions to the Health Coaching page and it is not showing. I know I saved it but did not sign - what is the problem? --Darloski (talk) 21:30, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Edits take effect immediately. Your changes are not showing because they were reverted by XLinkBot because they contained links to youtube, which are often inappropriate. Algebraist 21:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
song
[edit]hi
who was the 1st too record love potion no9 cheers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.147.128 (talk) 21:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Entertainment reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Please note that this is an encyclopedia with almost 3 million articles. As such, typing the name of a particular famous song into the search field on the left hand side of the page, or any other type of data that is likely to have an article (or redirect) is very likely to get you an answer. In this case, it would have: Love Potion No. 9 (song) first recorded by The Clovers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:08, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Am I being dumb or is this edit link broken?
[edit]Casual user of wikipedia here. I was reading up on the history of windows and I came across an error that needed fixing. When I clicked the edit link I got a blank page, yet there is content under the section. I made sure that I was clicking the correct edit link. Here is the page [[4]]. The part is the References section. One of the links is broken. yet clicking edit brings up something that resembles html tags.
Thanks for the help Ivtv (talk) 22:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- There was a delay a few seconds ago. Try clicking here and see if it works now. You will see something like this:
==References==
</reference>
To edit a source, you will need to look for the footnote in the article. You can click the ^ next to the source and it will take you to the location within the article. Then you can edit the section and fix whatever needs to be done (the sources are wrapped using <ref>the source</ref> ZooFari 23:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
WikiMedia Commons as Source
[edit]I recently had an edit rejected because the source cited was an unpublished letter. Can a put a picture of the letter in WikiMedia Commons then cite that picture as the source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RogerTaft (talk • contribs) 23:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Simply, No. What is the content exactly, you may be able to upload it and post it on the article then write whatever specific info in the thumb ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 00:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- It's a very interesting question and I agree with Scarce that the answer is no—under most circumstances. But I can think of one type of scenario where the answer might be yes: if the source is a primary source, and somehow, a reliable, independent, third party source publishes information about the material uploaded to Commons, verifying its authenticity. This is an extremely unlikely series of events, I know, but it is the only way I can see for the uploaded material to be properly usable here.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:30, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- If the user uploading the letter is not the author of the letter, then commons will reject it, as they author holds the copyright on what he wrote, and commons does not usually accpet copyright material. Besides which, as noted, the letter must be referenced in a reliable source before Wikipedia should probably use it. Outside, reliable sources are needed to vet primary texts like letters so that we have verification that the letter is authentic, and relevent, and so that we can know what the letter means. To interpret the relevence and intent of a letter yourself for a Wikipedia article is original research. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 04:05, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- <pedantry>Of course, if the letter's text confirms it is from 1889 or prior thereto (120 or more years ago), it will be out of copyright.</pedantry>--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- If the user uploading the letter is not the author of the letter, then commons will reject it, as they author holds the copyright on what he wrote, and commons does not usually accpet copyright material. Besides which, as noted, the letter must be referenced in a reliable source before Wikipedia should probably use it. Outside, reliable sources are needed to vet primary texts like letters so that we have verification that the letter is authentic, and relevent, and so that we can know what the letter means. To interpret the relevence and intent of a letter yourself for a Wikipedia article is original research. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 04:05, 1 July 2009 (UTC)