Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Michael Larson/1
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- Result: Kept Early life section has been added, now with sources, and one-sentence paragraphs have been merged. Discussion of notability can be continued at AfD if necessary. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:40, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
Lots of issues with choppy prose (tons of one-sentence paragraphs). A lot of the "early life" section is unsourced, as are a lot of the details throughout the article. This one needs a major overhaul if it's going to avoid the Whammy. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:47, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- An entirely-unsourced section is an immediate need for removal of GA status. I also question whether this is the appropriate format for this articular content; is it not a WP:BIO1E? — Fourthords | =Λ= | 13:55, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- It does seem unduly detailed and mostly backed up by iffy sources. I think it might be salvageable but if there is a desire to merge or AFD, that can be addressed after the GAR Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:47, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I don't mean to imply we shouldn't cover it, but it's certainly more of an event+context+ramifications than a biography. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 23:42, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- @TenPoundHammer and Fourthords: It's been 8.5 years since I nominated this at GA. I'm semi-retired now, so I don't know how much time I can realistically devote to trying to save this one. Went ahead and merged the one-sentence paragraphs, added a couple of refs, and removed the unsourced "early life" section entirely (which appears to have been added by an IP here), but let me know how much more this might need and I'll see what I can do. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 16:46, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- I think that having no section on his early life at all puts the article in violation of WP:WIAGA point 3A (broad in coverage) and lends creedence to Fourthords' argument that it could be a BLP1E. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 16:53, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- @TenPoundHammer: Went back to the reviewed version and restored the section at the time the article was promoted. In regards to WP:BIO1E, the guideline states: "If the event is highly significant, and the individual's role within it is a large one, a separate article is generally appropriate." Larson's episodes are easily the most notable and historically significant throughout the entire PYL franchise's history as they forced the producers to modify the big board's lighting patterns. Given Larson unquestionably also had the largest role in the event, I would strongly oppose a merge or an AFD in this case regardless of how this GAR ends. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 17:27, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- I think that having no section on his early life at all puts the article in violation of WP:WIAGA point 3A (broad in coverage) and lends creedence to Fourthords' argument that it could be a BLP1E. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 16:53, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- @TenPoundHammer and Fourthords: It's been 8.5 years since I nominated this at GA. I'm semi-retired now, so I don't know how much time I can realistically devote to trying to save this one. Went ahead and merged the one-sentence paragraphs, added a couple of refs, and removed the unsourced "early life" section entirely (which appears to have been added by an IP here), but let me know how much more this might need and I'll see what I can do. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 16:46, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I don't mean to imply we shouldn't cover it, but it's certainly more of an event+context+ramifications than a biography. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 23:42, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- It does seem unduly detailed and mostly backed up by iffy sources. I think it might be salvageable but if there is a desire to merge or AFD, that can be addressed after the GAR Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:47, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.