Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Spain/archive2

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The portal was promoted 21:06, 5 March 2008.

Portal:Spain

(see failed FPOC.) I've been working on this portal sporadically for the last month or so, and now, I think its ready. Currently, it has twenty selected articles, twenty selected pictures, 17 selected biographies and Did you know monthly updates prepared to take us into the summer. Portal:Spain/Suggest is maintained and monitored by myself. Overall, I think its ready for its FPO. This nomination was withdrew just over a month ago so I could fix some errors, and now all concerns but one have been addressed. The issue not addressed is the inexistent pages which are linked to using the Wikimedia sister project standard portal template, but this is because it is used commonly on most other portals. Qst (talk) 16:09, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

IN THE NEWS section lacks sources for all of the news.
Mention Requested articles and Articles require improvement in the THINGS YOU CAN DO section.
Expand Topics section. - Shyam ^(T/C) 09:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the ASSOCIATED WIKIMEDIA section links are empty pages.
I just wonder, how Africa portal is more related than Europe portal. Please rework on the related portals. --- Shyam ^(T/C) 13:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The In The News section does have sources, all can be found at Portal:Spain/In the news, they are just wrapped in <noinclude> tags to stop it looking ugly, and many other portals seem to do this. Qst (talk) 15:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - I would say, it should not be the way to mention the sources. It should appear on the main page in the same section. You may avoid noinclude tags, or simply link the source. Shyam ^(T/C) 13:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - I disagree, if the sources are there in the subpage, and just don't show up on the main portal page, I think that way is fine. Cirt (talk) 16:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - ~~I strongly oppose of not having the news sources on the main page.~~08:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC) Shyam ^(T/C) 09:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Related portals - done. Qst (talk) 15:44, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Associated Wikimedia - not done, Portals pass every day using the standard template for Wikimedia projects specifically designed for portals, their is no need to ad:just it. Qst (talk) 15:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - EITHER you can redirect them to the correct pages, if available and search page, if not available OR create ones for the same. Shyam ^(T/C) 13:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - ~~I strongly oppose this.~~08:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC) If the associated wikimedia does not have the particular page, either redirect to the correct related page, or search page, if not available. e.g. Wikiquote, Wikibooks, Wikisource, Commons. Shyam ^(T/C) 09:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Articles for creation - done. Articles which need improvement - not done. It seems to depend on the authors personal preference whether to lay it out with articles that need improvement with links, or whether to have it in the format I have chosen, hence, not done. Qst (talk) 15:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Sorry, I am not able to see them. Shyam ^(T/C) 13:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - See what, exactly? Qst (talk) 15:56, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - Listing of Requested articles in the Things You Can Do section. Shyam ^(T/C) 08:48, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        Done. Qst (talk)
~~Strong oppose~~ Neutral: that light-blue empty space on the right of the portal is horrible. --jskellj - the nice devil 13:10, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think its quite severe enough to warrant a strong oppose.On Firefox, the gap only appears small, but on Internet Explorer, as I've just realised - is big. I'll sort this out soon. Qst (talk) 14:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. It looks good in Firefox, so hopefully it will in Internet Explorer, although I must point out that the amount of white-space shown depends purely on the length of the "selected biography" and other boxes above. Thanks for your comments, though. :) Qst (talk) 15:55, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So, I'm still oppose. The section selected article is a biography. --jskellj - the nice devil 14:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't quite think you understand portals. Selected articles are allowed to have biographies in them, there is no rule prohibiting this and many featured portals have a couple of biographies in the selected article box. Qst (talk) 15:48, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which criteria, specifically, jskell, does the Portal currently fail? Lara❤Love 15:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Overall appearance is quite elegant. -Susanlesch (talk) 06:55, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. There is quite a lot of blue empty space on right and left using Internet Explorer. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 05:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I did attempt to fill this in, but the amount of blue space depends purely on the length of the articles and content above it, so if an article above the blue-space is long, there will be little to none, but if its small, there will be lots, so this really is out of my control, unfortunately. Qst (talk) 12:28, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment to FPORTC closers -- Don't close this one just yet, I'm going to address some of the concerns raised above, make some fixes to the portal, and then comment on my opinion of the portal as a whole, just give me a tad bit of time. Cirt (talk) 16:55, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I did some tweaks:

Reformatted the "In the news" section, using Wikinews Importer Bot (talk · contribs). Cirt (talk) 17:38, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Created an "Associated Wikimedia" section, with specific links to projects and/or search functions, as suggested above by Shyam (talk · contribs). Cirt (talk) 17:38, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Reformatted the "Things you can do" section, to look a bit nicer aesthetically. Cirt (talk) 17:38, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Reformatted the "Related WikiProjects" section, expanded it a tad and for appearance. Cirt (talk) 17:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Moved (4) Biography articles from the "Selected article" section to the "Selected biography" section. Cirt (talk) 18:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support. -- I have addressed all of the points from above, plus a couple other minor tweaks. I think that the Selected quote section should have a minimum of (10) selections, instead of the current (4), but this is not a sticking point for me, the rest of the portal is very nice. You may want to add a standardized "layout" page for all the "Selected" subpages, as well as place instructions on each subpage for other editors, so that new editors and editors unfamiliar with portals can figure out how to add new selections. Cirt (talk) 18:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support They portal looks great and the info is good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CPacker (talk • contribs) 23:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Most of the issues have been addressed. Here goes my support! - Shyam ^(T/C) 07:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You make wish to cross out your bolded "oppose" comments from above, to make it easier on the FPORTC closer. Cirt (talk) 07:57, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I striked out them. As, I supported later, then it would not make difference. Anyways, thanks for notifying. Shyam ^(T/C) 08:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thank you. Just makes things a little clearer. Cirt (talk) 17:31, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Closed as successful by Rudget (talk · contribs) at 21:06, 5 March 2008 (UTC) - All points corrected, 4 supports, over 3 weeks.[reply]

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