Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Ma, Ma, where's my Pa?
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![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Another_voice_for_Cleveland_-_F.B._LCCN95522869_-_restoration1.jpg/250px-Another_voice_for_Cleveland_-_F.B._LCCN95522869_-_restoration1.jpg)
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- Reason
- High resolution and good quality
- Articles in which this image appears
- Grover Cleveland, Grover Cleveland 1884 presidential campaign, 1884 United States presidential election
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/USA History
- Creator
- Frank Beard
- Support as nominator – 🐱FatCat96🐱 Chat with Cat 03:44, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Interesting but limited EV in the articles. Charlesjsharp (talk) 12:58, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Didn't know it was cropped. Charlesjsharp (talk) 21:37, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment – Lacks gravitas. EV doubtful. – Sca (talk) 13:51, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Crops out the caption (where the joke is), and edges. No real need to not show the full page, for that matter. Also, kind of bluish. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.9% of all FPs. 17:48, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Alt 1 and Alt 2 – for use in (EV) Grover Cleveland 1884 presidential campaign. Bammesk (talk) 00:57, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- The Alt is absolutely loaded with JPEG artefacts, though. Should probably grab one from the LoC TIFF. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.9% of all FPs. 16:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Good catch. I missed that. The LOC original is much better. It needs a bit of touching up. I can get it in the next day or two, if you Adam or FatCat96 don't do it first.
I changed my vote to Conditional support for now.Bammesk (talk) 01:11, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- I uploaded and changed the Alt version. It is now a restoration from the original LoC TIFF. Pinging participants @FatCat96, Adam Cuerden, Moonreach, and Vinícius94:. Bammesk (talk) 02:56, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, I fear: Colours are clearly highly changed by paper yellowing. I've done some experiments, and - while it would need a ton of edge cleanup due to vignetting at the edges, a simple bracketing of R G and B individually, setting white and black to maximum and minimum with content, gives highly believable colours Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.9% of all FPs. 04:45, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you and nice restoration. I've been so busy lately, I haven't had much time to restore anything. Also, GIMP has suddenly stopped working for me, and I'm trying to figure out how to fix it. I hope to get back to restoring more images once everything is resolved. 🐱FatCat96🐱 Chat with Cat 16:52, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, I fear: Colours are clearly highly changed by paper yellowing. I've done some experiments, and - while it would need a ton of edge cleanup due to vignetting at the edges, a simple bracketing of R G and B individually, setting white and black to maximum and minimum with content, gives highly believable colours Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.9% of all FPs. 04:45, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Adam, that's a support from me for Alt 2, as well as any other version you might upload. Let me know if a PNG version of 'Alt 1' can be of any use to you and I will upload it. Thanks for your input and your work. Bammesk (talk) 01:19, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose I can Support Alt 2. Probably too late for the upload of the PNG, though: I'd have to restart work. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.9% of all FPs. 18:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Adam, that's a support from me for Alt 2, as well as any other version you might upload. Let me know if a PNG version of 'Alt 1' can be of any use to you and I will upload it. Thanks for your input and your work. Bammesk (talk) 01:19, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I uploaded and changed the Alt version. It is now a restoration from the original LoC TIFF. Pinging participants @FatCat96, Adam Cuerden, Moonreach, and Vinícius94:. Bammesk (talk) 02:56, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Good catch. I missed that. The LOC original is much better. It needs a bit of touching up. I can get it in the next day or two, if you Adam or FatCat96 don't do it first.
- Support alt Moonreach (talk) 15:47, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Support both – Vinícius O. (talk) 21:58, 11 March 2024 (UTC)- Support alt 1 and alt 2 – The Herald (Benison) (talk) 18:44, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Alt 1 & Alt 2 – Hamid Hassani (talk) 02:51, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Alt 2 – Vinícius O. (talk) 22:21, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
Promoted File:Another voice for Cleveland - F.B. LCCN95522869 - restoration2.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 08:14, 17 March 2024 (UTC)