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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 17 Aug 2024 at 12:04:24 (UTC)

Original – His Girl Friday is a 1940 American screwball comedy film directed by Howard Hawks.
Alt 1 – SDR version, to avoid phab:T129621 phab:T362831.
Reason
A Featured Media on Commons
Articles in which this image appears
His Girl Friday
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Film
Creator
Howard Hawks
Support Alt 1 --Carlosmarkos2345 | Talk 12:33, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't really understand the benefit of the new version, specially the advantage of SDR for old films and black and white videos. To me, it seems to have more contrast. Is it really the case, or a side-effect? Which version is more faithful to the original film? Yann (talk) 14:43, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I second this uncertainty. While I can see that the alt has slightly higher contrast, the difference between the two is so slight that I don't feel qualified to say what standards should be used to decide which is superior. Moonreach (talk) 18:06, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree with Yann that it'd be better to show it in HDR than to not. That said, what's happening is most people will never see an HDR video on Wikipedia because they'll use the default playback, which is always in SDR.
    The "Source" playback on the original file can be used as a reference. That's in HDR, and if you have a display that properly handles HDR, there'll be a big difference between that and the default "HD 1080p" SDR playback (on that or on a color video, for example). With the transcodes on the original, there's no tonemapping at all, so it looks least like the film. With alt 1, the source file had the tonemapping applied when I converted it from HDR, so the transcodes will look more like the film. hinnk (talk) 18:33, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'll support the alt too, if that's what it takes to get this over the finish line. Moonreach (talk) 15:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The vote count is 5 supports for the Original and 3 supports for the Alt 1. There is consensus to promote the Original. In the article, I reverted back to the Original video. Pinging @Armbrust and Hinnk:. Bammesk (talk) 13:05, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Voting stopped <24 hours after alt 1 was uploaded, and neither Vinícius O. nor Hamid Hassani have edited since alt 1 was uploaded. I would suggest (1) opening the discussion to opinions from people who haven't participated, (2) closing as consensus to promote the original and starting a procedural nomination to replace, or (3) leaving the nomination open until Vinícius O. and Hamid Hassani have a chance to weigh in. Otherwise we're stuck presenting (and featuring!) an encoding error for procedural reasons around when the file was uploaded, which I think should be avoided. hinnk (talk) 18:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the current consensus doesn't change and the Original is promoted, then you or anyone can start a "Delist and Replace" nomination to get consensus for Alt 1. Bammesk (talk) 21:00, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I was hoping to avoid having to make everyone go through a separate nomination but it looks like that might end up being the best route. hinnk (talk) 21:51, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah. If we close this one then we can give it another go-around with just the alt and I think it'll pass. I don't know how long these things are normally left open, but we're coming up on a month since this nomination was made. Moonreach (talk) 15:18, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:His Girl Friday (1940).webm --Armbrust The Homunculus 15:58, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]