Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Brooklyn Bridge and East River
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- Reason
- Found this on Commons. Of high resolution. Slightly trimmed version of original. Believe this to be the best photo we have on the subject.
- Articles this image appears in
- Brooklyn Bridge
- Creator
- National Park Service
- Support as nominator --smooth0707 (talk) 19:28, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Question when was the photograph taken? The image hosting page only states that it's post-1968. Can we get more precise than that? DurovaCharge! 20:17, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- It is a color transparency taken in 1982. smooth0707 (talk) 20:52, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose. Does appear to be the best image in the article but still a bit below par in my opinion. It suffers from reciprocity failure (leaning towards green) which is common with long exposures on film, and is a bit soft. If it was a historically important image then perhaps I might be more lenient, but it is essentially a generic image of the bridge at night and given that a better, up to date image could easily be taken, I don't really see the importance of featuring this one. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 21:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Durova, not sure that Edit 2 actually improved it at all. Looks like you've adjusted the black point slightly, but the colour is almost identical. If anything, it is slightly warmer/green. To get it looking more natural, I think the bridge supports need to look more neutral and grey'ish. You can also tell the colour balance isn't right in it because the sky still has a green bias if you look at the RGB colour values. I'll upload Edit 3 to show you what I mean. Also, why have you uploaded it as a PNG file? As I explained in a previous nomination, PNG files are fairly unsuitable for photos, as it is a lossless format and results in larger file sizes than necessary when dealing with images with lots of tonal variation. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 23:07, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- What's odd is that the uploaded version looks significantly different from the appearance on my home system. After double checking the upload and the screen in Photoshop on my home system I was going to look at the color profile and give it another pass, but another version has gone up anyway. Support edit 3: it's the first major suspension bridge in the world and it's engineered so well that it's still an object of admiration among civil engineers and the general public. Also one of the best known New York City landmarks. If a better color photo of this bridge becomes available under free licence we can delist and replace. Until then, let's go with this version. DurovaCharge! 02:52, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Durova, not sure that Edit 2 actually improved it at all. Looks like you've adjusted the black point slightly, but the colour is almost identical. If anything, it is slightly warmer/green. To get it looking more natural, I think the bridge supports need to look more neutral and grey'ish. You can also tell the colour balance isn't right in it because the sky still has a green bias if you look at the RGB colour values. I'll upload Edit 3 to show you what I mean. Also, why have you uploaded it as a PNG file? As I explained in a previous nomination, PNG files are fairly unsuitable for photos, as it is a lossless format and results in larger file sizes than necessary when dealing with images with lots of tonal variation. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 23:07, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose. It's a nice picture, but the colors make the subject harder to see. A daylight photo would have been better, considering that encyclopedic value is the primary concern. Dylan (talk) 22:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Weak oppose for edit 3, oppose rest. Edit 3 is by far the best, but, like Dylan said, there's not a whole lot of EV going on here. More artistic than encyclopedic. Intothewoods29 (talk) 23:12, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose Edit 3, Oppose others. Edit 3 is a great improvement, but as others have pointed out, the EV is low. NauticaShades 16:03, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Not promoted MER-C 09:45, 26 August 2008 (UTC)