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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 18:47, 7 February 2011 [1].

Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster (D)

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Nominator(s): — KV5 • Talk • 02:40, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I haven't been around much lately, but I just saw that the C list passed, and the D one has been sitting around waiting to go, so other than the fact that I haven't done the alt text yet, have at it. All comments addressed as expediently as possible. — KV5 • Talk • 02:40, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment on accessibility: Apart from the missing alt text, the article has a high standard of accessibility. I'll be happy to support on those grounds once alt text is added. --RexxS (talk) 03:06, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:04, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • " (plaque thereon pictured)." a little anachronistic for me, maybe "(plaque pictured)".
  • Question: when the next season starts and more players play for the team, 26 articles (or so) will need updating just because they say how many players (1,881 so far) have played for the Phillies. You need to make sure these will all be updated as and when or have you considered (or do you already use) a template?
  • "Hit" is linked to two different articles which is confusing to a non-expert.
  • Ed Delahanty is the only one you mention in the lead, so you don't need to repeat his first name.
  • ERA is not linked or explained.
  • I think we've established that just italics aren't good enough for WP:ACCESS unless you write in the key "Italics indicate that ...", but for clarity, talk to User:RexxS. He's an ACCESS diamond.
  • "Phillies bullpen" should that be "Phillies' bullpen"?
  • Okay, note S says stats are cool up to the end of the 2010 season. Do you intend to update this list just once per year? It would be worth noting that from the start perhaps.

The Rambling Man (talk) 19:38, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Few replies: Template for multi-use numbers is already in use. Either "Phillies bullpen" or "Phillies' bullpen" are acceptable use; one uses the team name as an adjective and the other as a possessive. And yes, stats will only be updated at the end of a season; players who join the team in-season are noted with the year and a note in the final column saying that they joined the team during the season. The rest I'll address probably... Saturday morning Eastern Time at best estimate. — KV5 • Talk • 02:34, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Or I could just do them now. Plaque done, hit done, Delahanty done. ERA was linked (earned run average) but I forgot to write in the abbreviation after first use. I'm sure RexxS will check back in here after I do alt text (which I can't do right now) and then maybe he can weigh in on the italics. Adding the statement to the key is easy if necessary, as it's also a template. — KV5 • Talk • 02:45, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I checked in anyway :D. I'd just amend Template:Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster/Key in the Year row to say something like "Italic text indicates that the player is a member of the Phillies' active (25-man) roster" – that would warn JAWS users like Graham87 to turn on presentational announcements, and they would then hear where you italicised the year in the main table. The other option (of abandoning italics in favour of yet another symbol) may be accessible to a slightly larger audience, but as italics are already used for this in 21 of your articles, it would be churlish of me to suggest that amount of change for a minor gain. --RexxS (talk) 00:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Easy enough. Done. — KV5 • Talk • 12:59, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

Done both. — KV5 • Talk • 22:37, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support With one question/request. Could you add the general Phillies template to the bottom of each roster sub-article? They look naked with no nav-box down there, IMO, and it makes sense (at least to me) to have access to general Phillies' articles from these. Staxringold talkcontribs 01:05, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • One of the previous FLCs brought this up. I agree with the need for a navbox, but neither this article nor the other sublists are linked from the main Phillies template, so its inclusion wouldn't be appropriate here. — KV5 • Talk • 01:09, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Only issue I have is in one of the images, it reads "Ed Daily won 42 games and hit 6 home runs." The six can be written out. If numbers under ten are in that form near a larger number, than a couple different images need to be tweaked so it's consistent. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 19:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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