Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Nadia Ali discography/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 16:36, 11 August 2011 [1].

Nadia Ali discography

Featured list candidates/Nadia Ali discography/archive1

Nominator(s): Hassan514 (talk) 09:32, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe the list is comprehensive and meets FL criteria Hassan514 (talk) 09:32, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Many issues.

The first line in the lead should summarize the contents of the discography including how many studio albums, EPs, singles etc she has released.
done

There's no alternate text.
done

She released four singles from the album of which, "Love Story", charted at No. 1 on Billboard Hot Dance --> Grammatical error with commas
done

There's no linkage of other appearances and writing credits in the infobox.
done

Sometimes references for chart positions are along side the chart numbers, sometimes along side the chart. No consistency.
done

Unreferenced content abundant.

Messy references. Why would Billboard be published by Rovi? It was published by Nielsen Business Media uptill January 2010, from then its Prometheus Global Media.

I can go on and on and on. Fact is, this is nowhere close to FL class yet. I strongly suggest you go through a WP:PR and check recent discography FLs to get more points. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:06, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I can see that Hassan has definitely done some good work on the discography. I would like to see further work in improving the lead. I am not opposing this submission now, just that I need a little time to see whether I find the article to be of FL quality. Delegates, when you are closing the nomination, if I haven't commented, please remind me. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:01, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have made changes to the lead and expanded it further. Hopefully it is much more suitable now. Hassan514 (talk) 05:21, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Wow, Hassan has really done a nice job expanding and cleaning up the article. I support this promotion now. Nice job. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:09, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose~~

Lead:
The first sentence should describe her discography. (one studio album, three compilation albums... etc.)
done fixed

You say she has a remix album, why isn't there a section farther down showing that?
Queen of clubs trilogy are the remix albums

Many writing issues. It needs a copy edit.
done Fixed as many as I could see

Album sections:
According to the style guide, the format is incorrect. See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Discographies/style#Samples for the correct style.
done

Link CD and digital download.
done

Be consistent with dates. You have month, day and year in the studio albums section, but you only have the month and day in the compilation albums.
done

Singles section
A discography shows releases, if a song hasn't been released, it shouldn't be here.
done Sorry, didn't realised that. I saw that in Sophie Ellis-Bextor discography a while back and that's why I did it.

The references should be in the top of the chart, not next to the peak.
done Didn't know how to compile them together as they were multiple links, hence I posted them there. Fixed that

As featured artist section
The parentheses stuff should go underneath the song, according to the style guide.
done

Once again, the references should be in the top of the table.
done

Music videos section
Need references saying Jelle directed the two videos.
not done There's no references to them available anywhere on YouTube or anywhere else I knew to look. I had to contact Armada Music, the label which released the tracks and they told me who directed the videos. I only have the email from their press point of contact to verify these details.

Re-format the table to look similar to the style guide.
done

Other appearances section
the "a" in appearances should not be capitalized.
done

Is the notes section really needed?
Removed it, the only reason I did it was because of her uncredited appearance on "Deeper Underground" since I couldn't find any reference which mentions her vocals were sampled, I thought I should remove it.

Is the writing credits important enough to be noted here? The style guide says "Releases by other artists as a tribute or cover." should not be included.
The song is not a cover. It was a song written by her and performed by another artist on Tritonal's debut studio album.

References section
I see this a lot. Incorrect formatting. Websites should not be italicized. Put two apostrophes before and after to cancel it out.
done

It shouldn't be "Billboard charts" nor is Billboard published by Rovi Corporation.
done. Sorry I got that confused, I went to look at it again and stupidly missed the part "content partly provided by Rovi"

The dates should be formatted the same in the article. Always stay consistent.
done

This is a long, long away from a FL. There are more issues in the article. Try doing a Peer Review. I will help with the article, if you want. Contact me on my talk page if you have any questions, comments, or concerns. Michael Jester (talk) 00:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed most of the issues mentioned here. As far as referencing some things are concerned, I can only think of the album and singles release dates. Her music is mostly not mentioned on allmusic and the only places I can link here is discogs, beatport and itunes, which as far as I know are WP:LINKSTOAVOID. Ideally, I would hope I can do as much now to get this nomination passed. But if there is a lot more than what you guys have suggested, I'll wait and get a peer review done. Thanks a lot for your feedback! Hassan514 (talk) 11:05, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. Congrats on fixing up the article, it looks nice. I think I'm going to have to say Support on this one. Everything that I've seen looks spot on.
—Michael Jester (talk) 19:24, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:56, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

Commas needed in the lead after "singer-songwriter" at the start and after "Fantasy" in the second paragraph.
- done
What makes muumuse (reference 3) a reliable source? Also, something appears off in the title ("prepares release for of"?). Did an extra word sneak in there?
- removed the link. Yeap, that was a typo
Remove all caps from the title of ref 40 ("SAMPLER").
- done
In refs 4, 17, 18, 19, 21, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 31, 32, 33, 34, 37, 38, and 40, there are hyphens in the titles that should be en dashes. This isn't the biggest deal to me, but it will likely be brought up later, so you may as well look into it now. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 16:48, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- done Hassan514 (talk) 09:01, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Still see a few references with a faulty hyphen in the title which should be an en dash (current refs 4, 8, and 40; the numbers have changed since my original comments). Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:56, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Hassan514 (talk) 05:21, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 19:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

I would specify "New York-based band iiO" or similar since I've never heard of them and know nothing at all about them.
- done
"Ali began her solo career"... when?
- added
"and the Diamond Edition" why "the" here, the other two aren't the...
- fixed, didn't realise I had done that
"The albums produced one single.." no, the compilation produced one single, or just one of the albums produced one single, all three albums couldn't have produced one single...
- fixed, "Rapture" has 3 remixes, 2 of which were on the Onyx and Diamond Edition. They were released together as a single, hence why I wrote albums.
"As of November 2010..." still? It's virtually August 2011...
- Yeap, still working on it according to her Facebook status update last month. She started late last year. I have a source from February 2011, which I could use to replace it?
"Smile in Bed Records" or just "Smile in Bed"? Be consistent.
- fixed
"on an album by Nadia Ali:..." no need to repeat Nadia here.
- done
" These songs were written by Nadia Ali a .... on a studio album by Nadia Ali:" ditto.
- done Hassan514 (talk) 12:40, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:02, 29 July 2011 (UTC) Comments[reply]

Have you asked the other reviewers to return to this nom?
- Yes, I have
Showing one dead link now.
- Replaced
Are all of the non-charting efforts definitely non-charting or were some of them not actually released in those "non-charting" countries? The Rambling Man (talk) 07:44, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeap, Ali's success and fame is generally limited to the Electronic dance music genre so she doesn't receive a lot of attention outside of that. The only song she's known for in mainstream music is "Rapture". Also, her songs are released only digitally by her own label so they are definitely "released" in those countries. However, one of her collaborations, "Try" were not released out of Europe as far as I know. Hassan514 (talk) 13:58, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support The Rambling Man (talk) 19:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support (with a comment): Singles that haven't been released or charted in a country are tagged similarly (with a "—"). I don't know if this is common usage on this type of pages, but wouldn't this distinction be important to highlight? Parutakupiu (talk) 23:48, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Not so sure about that, this is a standard used by WikiProject Discographies so perhaps they're the best people who can talk more about it. I've simply followed their guidelines in creating this discography. Hassan514 (talk) 19:51, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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