Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of teams and cyclists in the 2014 Tour de France/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:31, 15 April 2017 (UTC) [1].[reply]
List of teams and cyclists in the 2014 Tour de France (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): BaldBoris 17:04, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Another Tour de France teams and cyclists list following my FLs of 2012 (FLC) and 2013 (FLC). The bulk of the work done on the tables was done by Cs-wolves and Ytfc23, I've just identified it as a possible FLC, tidied it up and then add the lead. BaldBoris 17:04, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 08:25, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply] |
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That's it for me, pretty good stuff. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:23, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment – In the second photo caption, is the first "stage" in "before the stage of the fourth stage" intentional, or was that meant to be "start"? Giants2008 (Talk) 23:23, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Typo, thanks. BaldBoris 00:00, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Support – That was the only issue I found in an excellent piece of work. Giants2008 (Talk) 03:01, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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- What is "HD" originated from?
- "Hors délais". The Rambling Man (talk) 15:32, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Do you think a footnote is needed? BaldBoris 19:30, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- The "by section" tables should give out the team classification times+positions (below the director?).
- Do you mean "by team"? The Rambling Man (talk) 15:32, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Can only benefit the reader I suppose. Something like below? Please change it to how think it looks best. BaldBoris 19:30, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Thinking about, the section is really about the cyclists, so this would need to go in the teams section. Perhaps a wikitable simlar to List of 2016 UCI WorldTeams and riders#Teams overview. Instead of "Groupset" and "Bicycles", have the directeur sportif and the team classification place and deficit. This could mean we could do away with the "By team" section entirely. BaldBoris 20:58, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Nergaal: I've made a table for the teams as mentioned above. Take a look at my sandbox to see what it could look like, also without the "By team" section. Pinging Giants2008 and The Rambling Man, as I know they'll want this off the urgent list. BaldBoris 23:42, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Code | The UCI code of the team |
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Country | The country registration of the team |
Category | The UCI category of the team |
Time | Deficit to the winner of the team classification |
- The teams section should have stylized jerseys listed too (you guys have something like {{Football kit}}?
- Stylized jerseys are purely decorative. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:32, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't want to go into too much detail but cycling jerseys/kit aren't the same as other pro sports teams. The majority of cycling teams are reliant on sponsorship, which can change every season, and thus their kits are a reflection of the team's sponsors (not plain colours like a football clubs). Regardless of this, I highly doubt we'll ever have all the kit images done, with the amount they change and the little amount of people able to make them. You can imagine the inconsistency. We currently use non-free images on the team's article, but nowhere else. BaldBoris 19:30, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nergaal (talk) 15:24, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Relpied to comments above. Can I ask why you changed the legend font size to 90%? Where's the MOS on this? BaldBoris 19:30, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- There's nothing in MOS to support that, so I've restored the normal text size. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:08, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from DarthBotto
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Pinging BaldBoris, as I don't want this nomination to go stale!
Thanks for the comments DarthBotto, I had almost forgotten about this myself. Your ping to me didn't work BTW. BaldBoris 16:07, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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- @BaldBoris: Thank you for being so reasonable, methodical and showing of logic behind addressing my concerns. You hereby have my Support for Featured List status. When you have a little time, I would love it if you could return the favor at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Alien characters/archive1, (which is almost as old as this one! :P). DARTHBOTTO talk•cont 05:38, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
We're in a bit of a spot here. Nergaal has "retired" but his comments and your responses appear to have bloated the nomination to the point where no-one dare touch it. Would yo be prepared to request further review from other nominators or the cycling project to expedite this? As far as I'm concerned, it's good to go, but we need to see more consensus than just Giants and DarthBotto. The Rambling Man (talk) 01:28, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- I did wonder happened there. I o think his comment is better discussed with people at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cycling. I'll start it now and also request reviews. Four months old now... Is that a record? BaldBoris 16:27, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- It could be...! I would also collapse the various tables etc here in this nom into a "resolved" or "archived" tab to improve readability of the overall state of the nom. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:50, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Support okay, that leaves PresN from the FLC team uninvolved! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:00, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Close, the marathon List of parrots FLC lasted 4 months and 14 days, just beating this one's 4 months. Flipped through the sources and didn't see any issues, so, finally, closing as promoted! --PresN 18:59, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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