Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of number-one singles from the 1980s (UK)/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by Dabomb87 23:39, 20 August 2010 [1].
List of number-one singles from the 1980s (UK) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): Rambo's Revenge (talk) 20:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because it is the next in the series of lists following the recently promoted List of number-one singles from the 1970s (UK). Here's some interesting snippets for your delictation:
- Mistakenly, a 12" single that was too long to be eligible for the chart was placed at number-one for 2 weeks.
- That Kylie was kept from the top spot because cassette sales were adjudged at the time as being too cheap to be eligible for the chart.
Thanks for your reviews in advance, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 20:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- NB: Transcluded late, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 13:34, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: no dab links, no dead external links. Ucucha 13:35, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Problem: List itself is fine and well referenced throughout. However, in the opening the first paragraph discusses how the charts were compiled and not at all about any number ones. If I hadn't read the article title, I would have thought it was an article on the UK charts, which it's not. The second paragraph is fine and relevant but then the third (and final) paragraph goes on to talk about cassette singles for some reason - and mentions singles which didn't go anywhere near No.1. The brief mention of the Kylie single isn't particularly important either since it went on to be a No.1 anyway and is just a bit of trivia. The title of the article should be bolded at the top of the first paragraph (or near enough) and should JUST concentrate on what is detailed in the list - a history of chart compilation and cassette singles belongs elsewhere.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 01:39, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note that in descriptive pages, the title does not have to be bolded; see WP:MOSBOLD. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:16, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- How the charts are compiled is, in effect, how the number-ones were compiled (and by whom). If you are scholarly in the subject, the method of compilation made huge differences. In the 60s and 70s it was done by music weekly magazines and was a bit of a guess (unreleable and disputed). Lots of different mags did it coming up with different number-ones. Gallup is when it really started to become how we know it today. The changing release date helps explain why in some other sources dates might differ. The automated part is important as it brings the real beginning of the Christmas number one (previously there was a break). I've trimmed the two irrelevent songs from the cassette paragraph, but formats are important as big labels blitzed the market through multi-formatting in the 1990s to get to number one. Additionally, 1 in 2 sales were cassette before it was made an eligible format (which is quite astounding). Rambo's Revenge (talk) 09:49, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:23, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply] |
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*Comments - what is the source for the biggest selling singles of each year and the decade? I can't see a citation for that. Also, I'd question the use of Everyhit.com (somebody's personal website} to cite the million-sellers. As the article itself points out, Everyhit claims that "Tainted Love" was a million-seller even though the BPI don't even list it as a platinum disc. So in essence the article is over-ruling data issued by an official body of the UK music industry (surely a reliable source) based on something claimed on a fansite, I'm not comfortable with this. Are there any reliable sources to support the claim that the BPI's own info is wrong...........? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:42, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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*Comment Another point: "...if sales from cassette singles were included but they were sold for £1.99 – cheaper than the chart regualtions allowed at the time. Following the debacle the British Phonographic Industry reduced the minimum price for cassette singles to become eligible towards sales figures " - This doesn't make any sense, they REDUCED the price? But it says they were already too cheap? Also £1.99 wasn't too cheap for chart eligibility in 1989 that's for sure. The ref provided has nothing to do with - it's an article from 7 years earlier. Even if "Hand on Your Heart" would have gained an extra week - it's largely hypothetical and didn't happen.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 03:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
OK, ref provided. It's fine. --Tuzapicabit (talk) 12:17, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The reference is now fixed (I'd put the wrong one there) and quite explicit about the facts. Pre-1989 £1.99 was too cheap to be eligible. They reduced the minimum price to be eligible, so £1.99 (post-1989) was now above the minimum price and thus eligible. Make sense, and any suggestions about how to make this wording clearer? Rambo's Revenge (talk) 21:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Support provided you fix the missing quote mark on the end of one of the song titles in the lead and the mis-spelling of "Reet Petite" in one of the notes -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:03, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, thanks for your comments. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 08:26, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Usually we don't put the navboxes under the external links header. Do we?--Chanaka L (talk) 02:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I removed the EL header as there are no external links. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:40, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 15:32, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply] |
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The Rambling Man (talk) 16:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support The Rambling Man (talk) 15:32, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Support I know nothing of the subject... about twenty years too late for my taste in British music, but I'm not finding anything to quibble about. Courcelles 23:22, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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