Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of dams and reservoirs in China/archive1
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The list was not promoted by The Rambling Man 10:01, 3 September 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]
List of dams and reservoirs in China (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): NortyNort (Holla) 20:03, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because...I believe it meets Featured List criteria and is a great resource for the world's current premiere dam builder. It lists the major dams and their reservoirs which are complete or under construction. Given the large number of dams and reservoirs in China it is by no means comprehensive but includes the largest and tallest dams along with those with the largest reservoirs by volume and surface area. I also included dams on the list which may not be the most notable but for which Wikipedia has articles. I submitted it for Peer Review nearly two months ago. The concern was pictures in the article. There are not many pictures for dams in China and the several licensed pictures that exist can be placed prior to or after the list given the list's width. Thank you.--NortyNort (Holla) 20:03, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Tentative oppose simply because it is not clear to me what is the criteria for inclusion in this list, and how many other dams are there that might be missing from here. I strongly suggest reordering this list from alphabetical to the dam height (or perhaps basin size if you really think that is better) and then choose a threshold for inclusion and provide a reference that the list is at least reasonably complete. 30 meters or 100 feet might seem fine as a limit, but considering that there are 22k dams above 15 m, I highly doubt that there are less than 1k dams above that threshold. More realistically would be 50 meters. Also, it might be better to change "division" to "province or region". Nergaal (talk) 01:00, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The scope for the "Dams and reservoirs in <country>" is generally wide and all inclusive. I have never seen criteria for one of these lists, nor is one an FL. Is a very specific criteria mandatory? The problem with a 50 meter minimum height is that smaller dams like Jinping-2, which have very large hydroelectric power stations and are therefore significant, would not be included. I made it low at around 20 meters to keep less significant local dams off the list. There are many ways to organize this list of dams and reservoirs and since there is sometimes no real correlation between dam height and reservoir size I figured alphabetically by dam name was best as a default since every column can be sorted. I am not sure about making a further change to the organization. By dam height would be my next option. As far as divisions, the dams are located in provinces, regions and in some cases like Chongqing, a National Central City. I changed the column title to reflect that. Thank you for taking the time to review and comment. Your continued thoughts are appreciated.--NortyNort (Holla) 20:13, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Try to have a section which will be 100% complete, and perhaps add below something like other notable dams. Nergaal (talk) 03:19, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I am getting the feeling that I should create List of tallest dams in China then. There is not much of a scope to this general list and, inherently, it will never be complete. If an FL needs a scope with dam height then I should withdraw this nomination.--NortyNort (Holla) 01:35, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Try to have a section which will be 100% complete, and perhaps add below something like other notable dams. Nergaal (talk) 03:19, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The scope for the "Dams and reservoirs in <country>" is generally wide and all inclusive. I have never seen criteria for one of these lists, nor is one an FL. Is a very specific criteria mandatory? The problem with a 50 meter minimum height is that smaller dams like Jinping-2, which have very large hydroelectric power stations and are therefore significant, would not be included. I made it low at around 20 meters to keep less significant local dams off the list. There are many ways to organize this list of dams and reservoirs and since there is sometimes no real correlation between dam height and reservoir size I figured alphabetically by dam name was best as a default since every column can be sorted. I am not sure about making a further change to the organization. By dam height would be my next option. As far as divisions, the dams are located in provinces, regions and in some cases like Chongqing, a National Central City. I changed the column title to reflect that. Thank you for taking the time to review and comment. Your continued thoughts are appreciated.--NortyNort (Holla) 20:13, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If I dare make an analogy to the various "tallest building" FLs, they have defined criteria for inclusion (usually 70 m and above if I recall correctly), and I guess this is similar. You could have two lists, one with dams above 50 metres and those between (say) 20 and 50 metres. If you'd like to withdraw, please let me know. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:15, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I withdraw the nomination due to the list's general scope. When I get some time I will make a similar list of dams over 100 meters, as the tallest dams. Thank you all for the help. I understand "scope" a lot better now.--NortyNort (Holla) 16:42, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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