Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Puerto Rican boxing world champions

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The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 22:10, 14 March 2009 [1].

List of Puerto Rican boxing world champions

Nominator(s): - Caribbean~H.Q.

I am nominating this for featured list based on the progress presented during the last months. Since its creation, the list has been expanded, sourced and even verified for accuracy by a boxing writer (Antonio Martin). After undergoing peer review, I applied a few tweaks, but most of the review's concern were of technical nature and they have been fixed or clarified by now. This is the next logical step, I will work with this nomination on behalf of WP:PUR and WP:BOXING. Please note that my work rate will be significantly higher on weekends due to college, so if it goes unattended for a couple of days, rest assured that I will pick it up then. Thanks for your time. - Caribbean~H.Q. 00:43, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Chrishomingtang

Comment Looks pretty good to me, just some minor issues

group footnotes and references into two columns
- Applied {{reflist|2}} to the footnotes, but the Boxrec notes are using separate templates, which will probably prevent the use of that format. - Caribbean~H.Q. 19:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - I've done it for you.—Chris! _ct 00:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"† indicates boxer of Puerto Rican heritage that is recognized by the commission due to parent's nationality, residence or other circumstances ." - Move this above the table and remove the extra space in front of the period
- Both issues corrected. - Caribbean~H.Q. 19:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
for the above, both symbol and color have to be used per WP:ACCESS
- Added color to the symbol, I'm not sure if that is what you meant. - Caribbean~H.Q. 19:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Oh, I meant coloring the box, like List of Vancouver Canucks captains.—Chris! _ct 22:04, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - I've done it for you.—Chris! _ct 00:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      - Thanks. - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Successful Defenses" --> "Successful defenses"
- Corrected. - Caribbean~H.Q. 19:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

—Chris! _ct 01:51, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, I am working with it. - Caribbean~H.Q. 19:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support —Chris! _ct 20:18, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Truco

Comments from Truco (talk · contribs)

Lead

These include: Wilfredo Gómez's record for most defenses in the super bantamweight division and for most successive knockouts by a titleholder. -- The colon should be removed because its not proper to use it here.
- Replaced it with a comma. - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The acronyms WBA and WBO need to be spelled out in their first occurrences.
- I decided to spell them in their second occurrences, particularly because the first are inside parenthesis, which would lead to an awkward format. - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Boxing in Puerto Rico

The acronym CMTC needs to be spelled out in its first occurrence.
- Actually, I'm not sure what "CMTC" stands for, the book only uses this acronym. My guess is that it is similar to the ROTC concept, but that would be OR. - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Then it would best to either remove it or research what it means, because its questionable when reading the text.--TRU CO 17:51, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, I found its meaning and added it to the article. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:35, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They were surprised to discover that several members of law enforcement agencies and the government were involved, a group of police officers including a colonel, two members of the governor's cabinet, numerous legislators and a judge. -- The comma before a group of should be a colon.
- Corrected. - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In 1926, a boxing venue was opened in a military facility known as Cuartel de Ballaja, with card being organized weekly. -- Add 'a' before card being
- Added. - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The first Puerto Rican to win a world championship was Sixto Escobar, who did it on June 26, 1934. -- did should be 'won'
- Fixed. - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In the 1960s and 1970s there was an improvement in the number of pugilists reaching this recognition. -- Comma after 1970s
- Added. - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Including Wilfred Benítez who on March 6, 1976, became the youngest world champion in history at 17 years old. -- Comma after who and remove the comma after 1976
- I believe that this is the widespread format for full dates within a sentence. For example, this is taken from today's Main Page FA: "Caspar David Friedrich was born on September 5, 1774, in Greifswald, Swedish Pomerania". - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki has some weird formats, but okay.--TRU CO 17:51, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

During the following decades the Puerto Rico Boxing Commission took initiative in certain aspects when compared to other entities. -- Comma after decades
- Added. - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of world champions

I believe its not necessary to have the symbol with color, the default color should be able to suffice.
- Chris fixed that one. - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The symbol should be placed in a table.
- There isn't sufficient width left to add another field to the table, we are using 99%, which is already stretching the article. I provided a more detailed example on the list's talk page. - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:20, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh okay, but I hope you know that I mean make the symbol in a key table format.--₮RU CӨ 01:49, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, to be honest, I'm lost here. Can you provide an example? - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:35, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, its fine.--₮RU CӨ 03:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

The formatting is a bit awkward, the MOS really doesn't say anything about this system, where did you find this system?TRU CO 22:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- It is a simplified version of the one used in List of Academy Award winners and nominees for Best Foreign Language Film. - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:23, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, okay. I've just never seen that format before.--TRU CO 17:51, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- Previous issues resolved to meet WP:WIAFL standards]].--₮RU CӨ 03:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New comments are welcome. Thanks to Chris and Truco for your reviews as well. - Caribbean~H.Q. 22:47, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:50, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Weak oppose from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) There are many prose glitches; nearly every sentence needs some sort of fixing (I note that the peer reviewer seemed to highlight prose as a major area of improvement). Please find someone to fix it up, it isn't much more than a ten-minute job. Examples:

Puerto Rico is such a broad link, can use something more direct, such as a pipe to Sports in Puerto Rico#Boxing?
- I believe that linking Puerto Rico in the lead is a must. We can't expect every reader to know where Puerto Rico is or the nature of its political status. Perhaps a link to Sports in Puerto Rico can be added elsewhere? - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - I added it to the see also section. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:36, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Puerto Rico is located in the third place for most boxing world champions per country in the world " "located" is used in the wrong sense here, how about "Puerto Rico has the third-most boxing world champions per country in the world " or something similar?
- Got it. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Image captions that are not complete sentences should not have periods at the end.
- Both captions are pretty extensive, but you are right. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Individually, Puerto Rican world champions have reached numerous achievements." Awkward wording ("[reach] ... achievements"?)
- Changed it to "earned numerous achievements", how is it now? - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"also holds the fifth place in this category"-->is fifth in this category
- Reworded. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"~~The sport of~~ boxing was introduced" That boxing is a sport is understood by now.
- Yup, removed it. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"with the objective being to determine the best fighter among the employees-->and the objective was to determine the best fighter among the employees
- Reworded. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"soldiers that established residence " Why not "soldiers who resided"?
- I used that wording based on the fact that they arrived with the war, if we say that they only "resided" maybe the reader will interpret that they were Spanish soldiers. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"During World War I, a championship known as Campeonato Las Casas as part of the military training of military personnel." Not a complete sentence.
- Reworded it to "During World War I, a championship known as Campeonato Las Casas was held as training for military personnel." - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Nero Chen, the first Puerto Rican boxer to gain recognition began in these tournaments." Comma after "recognition".
- Added. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"followed this example" Comma after here.
- Added. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"were organized in the rooftops" "in"-->on.
- Corrected. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"were taught ~~how~~ to box by Gregario Rosa
- Removed. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"a boxer that had won-->a boxer who had won
- Reworded. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Rosa ~~also~~ established
- Removed. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"a gym where he continued instructing students" A bit confusing, considering that it was never mentioned that he instructed students in the first place? What did he teach?
- Boxers, "student" was used there as in "dojo" teaching. Anyway, I replaced "students" with "more pugilists". - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"The charges were archived, the decision was justified with a statement saying:" -->The charges were archived; the decision was justified with a statement that said:
- Reworded. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"with a card being organized weekly." What is a card?
- Fight card, added a link to that article. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Legislator Lorenzo Coballes Gandía would redact a proposal to legalize boxing, which was signed by governor Horace Mann Towner on May 1927."-->Legislator Lorenzo Coballes Gandía redacted a proposal to legalize boxing, which was signed by governor Horace Mann Towner in May 1927.
- Reworded. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dabomb87 (talk) 02:56, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A nice and detailed review. I worked with most of the points, the others are waiting for feedback. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Those were only examples, there are more problems out there. I will try to return if I have time to finish the review, but it would be nice if you could find someone to do a ten-minute proofreading job. Dabomb87 (talk) 12:45, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I asked Tony, one of our project's best writters, to take a look at the prose. - Caribbean~H.Q. 23:56, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks much better. I gave it a copy-edit myself too. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:50, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:50, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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