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List of Hampshire County Cricket Club grounds

Featured list candidates/List of Hampshire County Cricket Club grounds/archive1

Nominator(s): AA (talk) 12:30, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I have substantially expanded the article with prose, providing an overview of the history of Hampshire's use of different grounds, and I have reformatted the list so that it more closely matches other English county cricket grounds FLs. Any comments welcome! AA (talk) 12:30, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

The lead looks a little short, is there some more info that could be added? First ground, most used ground, etc?
- Done. I have added an extra couple of sentences to this effect. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Outground is redlinked, is it likely to ever be an article? If so, it should also be linked on the first use in the body
- Done. It is an article I have lined up for the future, there are several books and links which cover the subject. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is there an image that could be added to the lead?
- Done. Have added an image of their current home venue. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"after a lease was successfully acquired by James Fellowes" - could you clarify who he was?
- Done. Added that he was a cricketer (amongst other things, but cricketer seems the most relevant descriptor without going off on a tangent). AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"which would last for 115–years" - there's no reason for a hyphen there
- Done. Have removed. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"the Rose Bowl also played host to Test," (etc) - unless there has been some sort of ruling that it can never do so again, change to "has played host"
- Done. Have reworded. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"which the transferred Bournemouth" => "which transferred Bournemouth"
- Done. Oops! Can tell I've been on nights! AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"which was also serves as the home ground" - something's not right here
- Done. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"but there for only two seasons before the Second World War." - think there's a word or two missing here
- Done. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Date columns in the table don't sort correctly
- Done. Now sorts correctly! AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source for note 1?
- Done. Have added the scorecard which shows Dorset at the home side. AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's what I got - nice work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:49, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. @ChrisTheDude: please find above my actioned comments. Cheers, AA (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - great work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

In the second sentence, Hampshire is a singular noun. So it should be "has", not "have"
- Done. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
a number of --> "various", "multiple", "many" or "14"
- Done. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
sports, in which a team comma isn't needed
- Done. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
fourteen should be "14" in the last sentence of the lead
- Done. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
James Fellowes;[6] thus began an association at the County Ground which would last for 115 years. --> James Fellowes, which began an association at the County Ground that would last for 115 years.
- Done. Reads much better :) AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
home matches per season from 1899, change "from" to "starting in"
- Done. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
in 1972 which transferred Bournemouth change "which" to "that"
- Done. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
matches there to 1948 add "up" before "to"
- Done. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Any particular reason for the more formal "Second World War" and not World War II.
- Comment. I guess I'm just formal! Happy to change though. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Under the "Grounds" section, why is the text italicized? It is too long for a note. I would drop the italics.
- Done. Agreed. I have just italicized the "Note" sentence. AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In the table, I think the text needs to be centered. Left justified with numbers doesn't look good. If you feel so compelled, you can left justify the first two columns.
- Done. I have centre justified, how does it look now? AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding the name column, I think you should split out the pictures. The text get's lost. Something like one of mine, List of Green Bay Packers presidents, I think would look good. The other option would be to at least bold the text.
- Done. I have bolded the text, less lost in the image and box background now... hopefully! AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work AssociateAffiliate! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 02:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonzo fan2007:. Many thanks for your comments, please find above my responses :) AA (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Everything looks good! Support « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:53, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers :) AA (talk) 17:46, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please note: I will be out of the UK from 19/11 to 24/11, so might not be able to respond during that time. AA (talk) 20:43, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

You might want to put in something about the list's scope, given that back in the Hambledon days I believe they - as well as scratch sides - sometimes adopted the name of "Hampshire". Maybe say that it only covers the period from the official formation of the current county club? JH (talk page) 16:12, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. @Jhall1 note added to that effect! AA (talk) 18:26, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

As per MOS:IMGSIZE a fixed width in pixels should not be specified for thumbnails, if you want to change the display size you can use the |upright= option instead. Also, WP:PIC says Lead images should usually be no wider than 300px.
- Done. I have amended the lead image size. I assume this was only for the lead image, as |upright= doesn't work in tables (or so it would seem). AA (talk) 13:48, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are two redlinks Outground and Bournemouth Cricket Week, if you're planning to create it in the future, consider redirecting it to somewhere for now rather than a redlink.
- Done. Have redirected. AA (talk) 13:26, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a specific reason for using the {{refn}} instead of the usual {{efn}}...?
- Done. I think it was just the one I have always used! Have changed. AA (talk) 13:48, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is it possible to replace some of the CricketArchive refs with free sources (Cricinfo etc.) if available?
- Comment. I suppose I could 'cherry pick' some of the Cricinfo ground pages, some do contain some prose on the grounds, others don't. I'll have a look and see which might be beneficial. The other CA refs with ground stats won't be available on CI, as they don't keep non-international records. AA (talk) 13:26, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Done. I have changed all but a few of the ground profile links to Cricinfo. AA (talk) 20:57, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Seems okay. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 16:14, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AssociateAffiliate: that's all I got for now. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 13:10, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could use the {{notelist}} instead of {{reflist|group=lower-alpha}}.
Also (just my personal thought), could move the references within the table to a separate Ref. column.
Last 3 sections could be put like the following (as per MOS:LAYOUT),

== References ==
=== Explanatory notes ===
{{notelist}}
=== Citations ===
{{reflist}}
== Further reading ==

That's all. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 16:14, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I have now used {{notelist}}. I also have adopted your suggestion for the "References" layout, but left "Further reading" as "Works cited" as I think it is a better sub-header. I did think when I expanded the article whether to have the references separate, but thought it looks more asthetically pleasing as it is! AA (talk) 20:57, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. @Vestrian24Bio: please find above my comments/actions. AA (talk) 20:57, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All good! Support. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 02:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --Pres N 02:05, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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