Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Detroit Lions head coaches

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The list was promoted 00:36, 22 April 2008.

List of Detroit Lions head coaches

This is an excellent list. However, with the lack of free use images, there are none next to the table. Other than that - looks good. - Milk's favorite Cookie 21:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support as nom.

Comments Just a couple of little things

~~Shame there's no free images. Did you look at Flicker yet? If there are some that are copyrighted to the user, it might be worth asking them to free it so it can be included on Wikipedia~~

"...including coaches for the Portsmouth Spartans (1930–1933), of the National Football League (NFL)." It sounds like only the Spartans were of the NFL

"...a play off of the..." "Off of" is a little poor

~~Per COLOR, do not use only colours to highlight. Some sort of text, such as an asterisk, caret, dagger or double dagger.~~

And that's it. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 22:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done - Milk's favorite Cookie 22:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~Fixes needed.~~

There is no link to either Detroit Lions or head coach, which is unhelpful to readers. Can probably be done best in the bolded text in the lead.

I have a feeling Portsmouth, Ohio should be just Portsmouth, Ohio. I don't think there's anything in the MoS but I remember reading it in another FLC nom the other day... not sure on this one.

Note 7 says Clark lost 1 playoff game, whilst the lead and table say he won the superbowl/1 playoff game (respectively).

I don't like the key being a completely separate section to the table, personally; it looks disjointed from it.

The lead claims Mornhinweg is the worst coach statistically by win%, yet the table says Karcis has a win% of .000. I think Mornhinweg should still be mentioned - his record is particularly poor over so many games - but Karcis should be added simply because it's contradictory not to have him noted.

The lead seems strangely formatted... I would probably merged paragraphs 2 & 3, then have "Statistics correct as of [...]" in a separate one myself, but this is up to you. Something to consider at least.

NB, I disagree with the above editor on the WP:COLOURS thing. It doesn't mention anything about using colours as a backdrop in tables (and infact shows examples of it being used on the main page). I've seen other lists pass FLC without anyone else noting this, and personally like them. But this is your call, just airing my opinion. :) Regards, AllynJ (talk | contribs) 06:52, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From WP:COLORS#Using colours in articles, "Ensure that colour is not the only way used to convey important information. Especially, do not use coloured text unless its status is also indicated using another method such as italic emphasis or footnote labels. Otherwise blind users or readers accessing Wikipedia through a printout or device without a colour screen will not receive that information." -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 07:06, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done - Milk's favorite Cookie 22:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support - all concerns dealt with, good work. :) AllynJ (talk | contribs) 20:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)

~~Hal Griffin should have an article, even if it's just a stub.~~

~~External Links should be External links (per WP:HEAD).~~

Otherwise, Matthew's right about the colours, and that's it. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:23, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done - Milk's favorite Cookie 22:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~I'll also support if an article on Hal Griffin is written.~~ Wizardman 21:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And

Done - Milk's favorite Cookie 22:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I finished everything - except the images. I couldn't find anything. - Milk's favorite Cookie 22:51, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm ready to support, as long as the green shading is used with some sort of text identifier, per the MOS quoted above. Also, there was no real need to remove the Hall of Fame shading, as long as some text identifier was used alongside, otherwise it doesn't follow the style set by other Head coach lists. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 05:17, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 20:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Looks like a good list. Nice work! Gary King (talk) 07:47, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - all concerns dealt with, good work. :) AllynJ (talk | contribs) 20:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Can you throw in a See also section? Seems incomplete without it. Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 02:11, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Alright, looks great. Very well done list. Support. Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 02:21, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

~~"changed their name to the Lions.." spare period.~~

See Also and External Links should be See also and External links per WP:HEAD.

"...in terms of winning percentage, with .000,..." - why not just say he never coached a win?

"Regular Season" in the table, why not just Regular season? (i.e. small season?)

~~The asterisk in the key should say "Elected to the Hall of Fame", not just "Hall of Fame".~~

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:37, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done Milk’s Favorite Cookie ^(Talk) 01:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support - all good, well done. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:03, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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