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List of Canada's Wonderland attractions (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): Dom497 (talk) 23:10, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets all of the FLC criteria.--Dom497 (talk) 23:10, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from TBrandley (talk) 03:32, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply] |
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Comments, A few minor issues: Support
- "When the park first opened in 1981, there were 26 rides, today there are a total of over 65 rides": Run-on sentence. Two independent clauses, needs a conjunction before "today" or a semicolon. It can also be conveyed as two separate sentences.
- Fixed.--Dom497 (talk) 20:16, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- "Canada's Wonderland most recent built attractions": Wonderland is missing a possessive apostrophe.
- Fixed.--Dom497 (talk) 20:16, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- "Exact reasons why this section was never built have never been given.": Needs a citation.
- I have removed this statement and replaced it with another.--Dom497 (talk) 20:13, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- "inside of Splash Works though the ratings": There needs to be a comma before the subordinating conjunction "though".
- Fixed.--Dom497 (talk) 20:13, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
--xanchester (t) 19:39, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- "Sledgehammer, the only of its kind in the world." Needs a citation. Not mentioned elsewhere in the article.--xanchester (t) 20:25, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed.--Dom497 (talk) 20:30, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Commentsa few nitpicksSupport- "When the park first opened in 1981, there were 26 rides." - I would write something like "Initially the park had 26 rides when it first opened in 1981
- Done.--Dom497 (talk) 19:23, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- " dinosaur themed" - should there be a hyphen in between?
- Why? I personally think not.--Dom497 (talk) 19:24, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, it looks like a compound modifier, but I will leave it to someone who has a better understanding in English grammar. Regards.--Tomcat (7) 19:37, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Why? I personally think not.--Dom497 (talk) 19:24, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- "Original plans and park maps when the park was being built showed that the area that is now Splash Works and White Water " - I think this phrase is a bit odd (particularly when you suddenly write "when"). It could be reworded--Tomcat (7) 18:49, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed.--Dom497 (talk) 19:26, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 20:40, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply] |
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NapHit (talk) 14:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- ref 4, the hyphen should be an en dash. Also what makes that source reliable? Looks like a blog to me
- I have fixed the hyphen. Regarding the reliability, though it may be hard to believe, the source is actually pretty reliable. If it makes a difference, there is a book published in 1981 that talks about Frontier Canada but I have no idea what page(s) the info is on.--Dom497 (talk) 20:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm still not overly convinced by the site. I'll leave this comment up so others can comment on it. NapHit (talk) 20:40, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I have fixed the hyphen. Regarding the reliability, though it may be hard to believe, the source is actually pretty reliable. If it makes a difference, there is a book published in 1981 that talks about Frontier Canada but I have no idea what page(s) the info is on.--Dom497 (talk) 20:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- This is a sentence fragment: "Both added for the 2012 season."
- Fixed.--Dom497 (talk) 01:32, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Ride names beginning with "A" or "The" should be sorted based on the next word in the name. For example, in place of "The Bat" in the table, enter {{sort|Bat, The|The Bat}}.
- Another user fixed this.--Dom497 (talk) 01:32, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree that the Blogspot site looks a bit shaky. Using the 1981 book instead would be much better, if you could get a hand on the page number.
- I will tell you right now that I would not be able to get a page number...is just adding the book in general good enough?--Dom497 (talk) 01:32, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Dom, would you be able to make a trip to the Toronto Public Library? They have a reference copy. Themeparkgc Talk 01:44, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- A book reference without the page numbers still seems better than referencing the blog site, but Themeparkgc has an interesting point. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 10:56, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Without going into too much detail, I can't. I got school, I tried getting a digital copy (can't because it breaks copyright) and I called the library (boy, they were lots of help...not). I really don't think 2 or 3 pages really make a difference any ways.--Dom497 (talk) 20:54, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I couldn't find the ISBN of the book. Is that necessary?--Dom497 (talk) 21:01, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It is encouraged, but at the least: title, year and author. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 21:10, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The publication, unfortunately, was ghostwritten. Is it just the Wilderness Canada section you need the page numbers for? I have the first and second season editions of the book in my personal CW collection. -- Zanimum (talk) 02:42, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Too bad that it was ghostwritten. I believe that's what we're looking for (Wilderness). —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 20:04, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll edit tomorrow; I do have the editor and assistant editor names, and based on the consistent voice of the book (and its relative brevity), I can't imagine there were any other writers involved. -- Zanimum (talk) 01:59, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Too bad that it was ghostwritten. I believe that's what we're looking for (Wilderness). —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 20:04, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The publication, unfortunately, was ghostwritten. Is it just the Wilderness Canada section you need the page numbers for? I have the first and second season editions of the book in my personal CW collection. -- Zanimum (talk) 02:42, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It is encouraged, but at the least: title, year and author. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 21:10, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- A book reference without the page numbers still seems better than referencing the blog site, but Themeparkgc has an interesting point. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 10:56, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Dom, would you be able to make a trip to the Toronto Public Library? They have a reference copy. Themeparkgc Talk 01:44, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I will tell you right now that I would not be able to get a page number...is just adding the book in general good enough?--Dom497 (talk) 01:32, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Everything otherwise looks very well done. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 01:06, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for the delay, I've been dealing with a museum opening. I've now added in the proper reference. -- Zanimum (talk) 00:37, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. is there a reference for Action Theatre in the table? —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 00:45, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Source comments –
I still see a blog in use as ref 5, and think that this is not reliable enough for an FL.
- Removed ref.--Dom497 (talk) 20:44, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 8 requires a publisher (Canada's Wonderland).
- Fixed.--Dom497 (talk) 20:42, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
All caps in refs 38 and 66 should be taken out.Giants2008 (Talk) 18:18, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed.--Dom497 (talk) 20:42, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:35, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply] |
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Oppose too many issues still outstanding...
If these and any outstanding issues above are addressed, I'll return to conclude my review. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:10, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply] |
Support - In addition to TRM's above, I would add:
- It seems quite strange to me that "N/A" sorts under N as if it were a manufacturer (add a sortkey to sort it as "0")
- References should not sort in the second table
- In the "Vortex" row the type isn't capitalized right (steel)
- I don't know why "The Fly" is the only ride to be redlinked.
- This page was recently deleted because it was created by a sock pupperter.--Astros4477 (talk) 05:03, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Removed the link. Themeparkgc Talk 01:34, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- At least one inconsistency with date types in the references- November 1, 2012 but also 27 November 2012.
- Optional, but I'd consider archiving your refs- if the company ever changes its website or goes under, the entire list will lose its references.
--PresN 04:10, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- As to PresN's archiving references suggestion, even though CW isn't going anywhere, it's still wise. The content on those pages is indded changed here and there. To archive, put this URL in front of the page you want to archive... http://liveweb.archive.org/ ... and then hit "latest". For example, I've already started with this, the park history page: http://liveweb.archive.org/http://www.canadaswonderland.com/park-history/park-history -- Zanimum (talk) 20:53, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Changed to Support now that issues have been fixed. I tweaked the sorting for the N/A bits a little as well. --PresN 22:35, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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