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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 22:45, 29 August 2011 [1].

List of Auburn Tigers head football coaches

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Nominator(s): Patriarca12 (talk) 00:17, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I feel it meets the FL criteria as it incorporates comments from previous lists on the same topic of SEC head football coaches (List of Alabama Crimson Tide head football coaches and List of Tennessee Volunteers head football coaches). Any and all comments are greatly appreciated and thanks in advance to all who take a peek at this! Patriarca12 (talk) 00:17, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:04, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • Remove "the" from "represents the Auburn University"?
Done
  • "Seven coaches also won conference championships". The word "also" is a bit misleading, since some of these coaches are different than the ones in the last sentence. Better to just drop it.
Removed
  • Key: Second word of National Championships should be de-capitalized since it isn't a proper noun.
Done
  • Note 4: En dash needed in "win-loss percentage" to replace the hyphen.
Done
  • Note 6: Comma would be nice after "Bill Oliver served as interim head coach for the final five games of the season".
Done
  • In reference 13, spell out AL like you do in the general reference.
Done
  • Spot-checking note: If ref 14 is meant to be citing the date Terry Bowden resigned, it doesn't. It has the month, but I don't see the exact date. Would be nice to have another cite for that.
Good call. Additional reference added. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:30, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments addressed. Thanks for taking a look at this and please feel free to let me know if you see anything else needing attention. Patriarca12 (talk) 00:24, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Comments from KV5
  • Table needs to be updated to meet WP:ACCESS requirements; see MOS:DTT for details.
Can you please clarify what you would like to see? I am not sure what exactly you are looking for as this is patterned exactly after the Alabama and Tennessee lists that were promoted to FL previously. Any help would be great! Patriarca12 (talk) 22:10, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Those lists were promoted before the ACCESS table standards were updated. The tutorial provides in-depth directions, but what is needed here are row headers, scope parameters, and table captions at minimum. — KV5 • Talk • 02:12, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I will continue to work on this and let you know when I think I have it correct in the next day or so. Thanks! Patriarca12 (talk) 17:23, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I swapped the key altogether for the Template:List of college football program head coaches key that I have since been made aware of, and think I have updated the table accordingly to the new standards. If it needs more tweaking, please let me know. If it looks good, I will make the appropriate changes to previously FL's I have submitted on the same topic. Thanks again! Patriarca12 (talk) 02:51, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Everything looks good except that there are no row headers yet. — KV5 • Talk • 11:02, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think I finally got this down. Thank you for your patience and for taking a look at this again! Patriarca12 (talk) 12:39, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's done it. Swell. — KV5 • Talk • 00:22, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • One dead link.
Link fixed.

Can't find anything else to quibble with. — KV5 • Talk • 23:30, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support Well done. — KV5 • Talk • 00:22, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - very good, but is it "postseason" or "post-season"? Possibly need to check your other lists for this. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:32, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is definitely "Postseason" and I have fixed that on all of the SEC lists. Can't believe I haven't caught that before! Thanks for taking a look at this! Patriarca12 (talk) 12:31, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 14:01, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Conditional Support –

I will support this on the following two conditions:

  1. Addition of a second image to the article
I did add a Chizik image, but it did not look right as it pushed towards the table, so I did not include it. I am more that happy to include it if others in this discussion are alright with it.
  1. An explanation here on why coaches with no bowls are both listed as &dash-&dash-&dash and 0-0-0 at points in the article Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 01:40, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Citation added to explain why &dash-&dash-&dash and 0-0-0 are both used in the table.

Thanks for taking a look at this! Patriarca12 (talk) 02:11, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My concerns have been addressed. Changing to support Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 14:01, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support
  • The key table looks horrible. Other than adding header scopes ( ! scope="col" | and ! scope="row" | ), I see no reason why the previous key would fail the new WP:ACCESS standards.
Ultimately I will defer to whatever consensus is reached, but I feel the template version does look better, presents the information in an easy to follow, uniform manner and will utilize it in both past and future coaches' lists I work on if this will work for FLs.
NThomas, the current key table looks horrible? Patriarca12 worked in Template:List of college football program head coaches key, which will standardize the tables for these kind of lists. Please take a look at the template and let me know if you have issues with it. Thanks. Jweiss11 (talk) 03:09, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Unless the template can be rewritten to hide unused parameters, one of the things brought up over and over here with past FLCs, there's going to be a lot of lists with extraneous abbreviations for parameters not even used. Since this really doesn't pertain to this FLC though, I've started a new section on the template's talk page about my concerns about the template itself. NThomas (talk) 04:00, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not quite sure what happened there, but fixed now. Thanks for taking a look at this! Patriarca12 (talk) 03:20, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NThomas (talk) 17:15, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Added Patriarca12 (talk) 12:39, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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