Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Gwen Stefani discography/archive2
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was not promoted by The Rambling Man 17:42, 6 October 2009 [1].
- Nominator(s): EA Swyer Talk Contributions 22:56, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Featured list removal candidates/Gwen Stefani discography/archive1
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I am nominating this for featured list because it is complete! I was annoyed when it was demoted because it was the lead article of a featured topic I nominated, but since then I have brushed it up and want to restore the topic "Gwen Stefani albums". Constructive criticism welcome; I will try to resolve any issues as soon as possible. EA Swyer Talk Contributions 22:56, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments Not really sure what shape it was in when it was demoted, but I still see alot of problems. Alot of MOS:DISCOG stuff in particular:
- MOS:DISCOG recommends a limit of 10 chart columns. I think you've got 11 here. Done
- The chart columns also need to be in this order: home country first, then alphabetical by English name. Done
- Why are the formats small text? Just abbreviate the formats (CD, CS, DD) if you're worried about space. Done
- The two music videos that are missing directors could probably go. One was never released (and therefore doesn't really belong in a list of works released), and the second was only shown during live performances? (The note is a little unclear about that). I don't think I'd really call that a music video, more like a visual accompaniment. And the fact that it's 3 or 4 songs leads me to the same conclusion. Done
- Some of the directors have multiple citations. Only one is necessary. Done
- Most of the country-specific chart websites are published by Hung Medien. So that needs to be there. Done
- It would be nice to see some more consistency in the width second column from the left. I have little-to-no table-fu. The second column is wrapping around the song titles. It doesn't look that bad.
- Some general references are needed. A la Yeah Yeah Yeahs discography. Drewcifer (talk) 23:15, 9 September 2009 (UTC) Done as an external links/general citations section[reply]
Will get to work on the other stuff. Thanks for the comments. -- EA Swyer Talk Contributions 00:15, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've finished all that you've mentioned and will have a look at MOS:DISCOG. -- EA Swyer Talk Contributions 00:52, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Dabs; please check the disambiguation links identified in the toolbox. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Diaa
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Support the list was improved to meet FL Criteria and is of high quality.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 04:49, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The music videos table is a bit lacking. The three consecutive Sophie Muller videos could be consolidated into one cell spanning three rows, and you really should have another column showing which album the videos were taken from. In my opinion, that is. Seegoon (talk) 11:54, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- in other FL reviews i have participated in, having the albums column with the video is strongly discouraged because its perfectly clear what album the songs belong to from the singles table. Mister sparky (talk) 12:46, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your comments. I have merged the Sophie Muller cell across 4 rows and, yes, it does look better. I haven't added an album column in because I think it's unnecessary (per what Mister sparky said) and I can't see a recently-featured discography-FL with albums in the video section. -- EA Swyer Talk Contributions 14:23, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Fair enough. Things change at FLC/MOS:DISCOG. It was only a quibble anyway – I support this fine-looking article. Seegoon (talk) 17:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your comments. I have merged the Sophie Muller cell across 4 rows and, yes, it does look better. I haven't added an album column in because I think it's unnecessary (per what Mister sparky said) and I can't see a recently-featured discography-FL with albums in the video section. -- EA Swyer Talk Contributions 14:23, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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- What makes aCharts reliable?
The BPI link is dead.FixedRef 34 is missing a publisher and access date.FixedRef 37 is missing an access date.FixedSpell out ARIA in the publisher.Fixed- R
ef 12 needs a publisher.Fixed Dabomb87 (talk) 00:20, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- This page on acharts explains why Music Square redirects to acharts - they are published by Music Square, just on a separate website. That page also has a section on acharts being used as a reference on Wikipedia. WP:GOODCHARTS lists acharts as reliable for certain charts. I haven't used any unofficial charts in the page. -- EA Swyer Talk Contributions 00:17, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Noted. Personally, I do not believe that acharts is a reliable source for reasons that I have stated numerous times in the past, but rather than start a firestorm over it, I will remain neutral on this FLC and allow others to debate over it if necessary. The other attributes of the list that I really looked at (formatting, lead) seem fine. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:13, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- This page on acharts explains why Music Square redirects to acharts - they are published by Music Square, just on a separate website. That page also has a section on acharts being used as a reference on Wikipedia. WP:GOODCHARTS lists acharts as reliable for certain charts. I haven't used any unofficial charts in the page. -- EA Swyer Talk Contributions 00:17, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Apologises for that, I need my eyes checking. A few further comments:
--Jpeeling (talk) 21:43, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment The changing colours in the "Music videos" section are a tad distracting, since there are some cells that use rowspan. -- Scorpion0422 00:55, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The Music Square references all appear to be broken. Also, I'd like to hear why the nominator thinks that aCharts is a reliable source for the information referenced. Goodraise 01:04, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- You're right, the website is broken. I can't help that. A message on the page says the server will be back in a few days; it worked when I took information from the site. See paragraph above and WP:GOODCHARTS for why aCharts is a reliable source for the charts I have used. -- EA Swyer Talk Contributions 14:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I already looked at WP:GOODCHARTS and read the paragraph above. What I'm still missing is a rational as to how aCharts meets WP:RS for the information cited. Goodraise 14:09, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, the information from aCharts in the lead is only to give a general impression of how each single performed; raw data is taken from Hung Median. -- EA Swyer Talk Contributions 14:30, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, didn't see your comment. Sadly, I can't give you a decent answer until I can see the website again, except that concensus at GOODCHARTS has accepted it. -- EA Swyer Talk Contributions 14:40, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Even if GOODCHARTS has accepted it, which by my understanding of the page is only partially true, that doesn't mean that I have to accept it as well. In any case, I'm not going anywhere. I can wait for however long you need to come up with a decent answer. Goodraise 23:40, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, didn't see your comment. Sadly, I can't give you a decent answer until I can see the website again, except that concensus at GOODCHARTS has accepted it. -- EA Swyer Talk Contributions 14:40, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- You're right, the website is broken. I can't help that. A message on the page says the server will be back in a few days; it worked when I took information from the site. See paragraph above and WP:GOODCHARTS for why aCharts is a reliable source for the charts I have used. -- EA Swyer Talk Contributions 14:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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