Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Death Cab for Cutie discography
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 18:41, 29 June 2008 [1].
A complete discography for the alternative rock band that hit it big in 2005. Let me know what you guys think. Self-nomination. Teemu08 (talk) 03:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support This looks pretty good. Gary King (talk) 04:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments-this looks good, however, it does not contain references to reliable sources, such as the release dates of albums, the comments in the "Virtual albums" and "Demos" columns, as well as the other appearances section.--SRX--LatinoHeat 21:21, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Individual release dates need referencing? Why? indopug (talk) 15:38, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll add references to the comments in those two sections when I find a minute. However, I'm not going to add references to the dates, since they're indisputable (and that goes for all featured content, not just lists). Teemu08 (talk) 16:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Very solid work. And while I've still got the chance, a few responses to (now hidden) responses: the small font thing was just a suggestion. I like it since it seperates it cleanly from the label name and because it's not really all that important, but that's just me. As for the forcing the bolded title thing, please see this archived discussion. It's still not a set-in-stone rule, but I believe there's an increasing consensus 'round these parts to not force the straight repetition in the lead. So I still recommend changing it, but that's not enough to keep me from supporting an excellent list. Drewcifer (talk) 06:42, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments Looks really good. A few comments:
- Don't force the bolded title or the repetition of the title in the lead.
- I think the You Can Play These Songs with Chords note needs a citation.
- "iTunes Originals - Death Cab for Cutie" uses the wrong dash. Same with "Drive Well, Sleep Carefully - On the Road with Death Cab for Cutie" (both should use – not -)
- I don't think "virtual album" is the right term.
- "Plans was a bit hit" is a little peacocky.
- I suggest making the catalog numbers small font, as it helps differentiate them from the label names.
- MVDB is not a reliable source. But the good thing is that in most cases, music videos are considered self-referential, since they have credits on them for artist and director. But citation #18 can stay I suppose.
- All music guide is now Allmusic. Drewcifer (talk) 22:10, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Dashes, peacock words, and Allmusic fixed. Music video citations removed, citation for You Can Play These Songs with Chords added. I think someone complained once when I made the catalog numbers small, and most of the other featured discographies have it normal-sized. The bolded, somewhat-forced title is fairly standard for featured discographies. As for the "virtual album", I don't know what to call it. I'll change it to "digital album", but I don't think there's a good phrase for it. Maaan, I'm gonna have to change that Allmusic thing in a lot of articles... Teemu08 (talk) 02:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- References needed for the lead regarding band members and record labels.
- Wikilink cd and vinyl on first use in the Albums section
- Did any of the EPs and digital release chart?
- I disagree with the reviewer above regarding self-referencial music videos. It's the likes of MTV and VH1 and other music channels that put the director information on screen, and they don't do it in some countries (UK for one).
- I am also yet to be convinced that music videos be included on a discography, which deals with releases. A music video is a promotional short for music video channels, just as radio stations sometimes have radio-friendly versions of songs. Music videos are a part of the single, and should be recorded in the singles articles. IMHO.
Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 05:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, I changed the opening sentence, but honestly you're comment would be better served at Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies, where a group is trying to agree on common formatting for all discographies. Same with the music video inquiry. As it stands, discographies are also videographies of a sort and include both music videos and DVD/video releases. I fixed a few other things as well; I'll touch up the listy prose in the lead when I get a chance. Teemu08 (talk) 04:05, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- Opening sentence of "This is a comprehensive discography of Death Cab for Cutie," is yuck. Comprehensive is implied because it's featured (or could become featured). Also it's a straight repetition of the article title. Something more engaging needs to be written, such as "The discography of Death Cab for Cutie consists of six studio albums, four extended plays (EPs), a demo tape, a digital album, fourteen singles, eight music videos, and two DVDs. Death Cab for Cutie are an American indie pop group from Bellingham, Washington and was formed in 1997 by Ben Gibbar..."
- Studio albums should be studio albums. In other words, [[studio album]]s not [[studio albums]]
- Have you got catalog numbers for the last 2 albums?
Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 17:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Studio albums" fixed and prose livened up. As for the catelog numbers, I haven't been able to find any online. Ofsten, major labels forgo using catalog numbers, instead just filing them under their serial number. If I ever do find catalog numbers, I will add them. Teemu08 (talk) 20:05, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- OK. I added my suggestion for the introduction, as there was nothing which said how many albums/singles etc were released. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 15:40, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Studio albums" fixed and prose livened up. As for the catelog numbers, I haven't been able to find any online. Ofsten, major labels forgo using catalog numbers, instead just filing them under their serial number. If I ever do find catalog numbers, I will add them. Teemu08 (talk) 20:05, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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