Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/2008 IIHF World Championship rosters/archive1

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The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 23:34, 13 June 2009 [1].

2008 IIHF World Championship rosters

Nominator(s): Kaiser matias (talk) 20:50, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Featured list candidates/2008 IIHF World Championship rosters/archive1

With the conclusion of the 2009 IIHF World Championship at the start of May, and the effort involved in maintaining articles regarding the tournament, I got the idea to work on the roster article for the previous year and get it up to be a FL. I have spent the past few weeks working on it, and the result is totally different than what existed before. All comments will be addressed as soon as I can address them, and I look forward to hearing them. Kaiser matias (talk) 20:50, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from -- SRE.K.A.L.24_[c]

Add importScript('User:Splarka/dabfinder.js'); to your monobook to fix all the redirects.

Don't quite understand what this is for.

It is to fix all the redirects...add it to your monobook, refresh, and it will appear on your toolbox (left of screen, below interaction). -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 01:06, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No references for the lead? General references don't cite the first half of the first paragraph.

Added some references, should be good now.

Could add some images beside the rosters.

I looked through Commons for images of the participating players wearing international jerseys, and this is all that currently exists. If more are added, they will be placed into the article.

They don't have to be in their international jerseys...An article will just look bland with barely any images. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 01:06, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

-- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 23:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments addressed. Kaiser matias (talk) 01:01, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added some more images, so there is now one per team, except for Italy, which has no images uploaded. Added the tool suggested, and everything seems alright. So, all comments addressed again. Kaiser matias (talk) 23:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't fix the redirects...It's Jonathan Toews, not Johnathan Toews. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 00:43, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That would be a case of me not knowing how to use these crazy new tools. I thought I pressed it, and when nothing showed up, I figured it was good. But it has been taken care of now, and anything left is either because the team name has changed, or a left the "HC" instead of changing it to "Hockey Club," as most teams are known by the abbreviation, not the full name. Kaiser matias (talk) 01:47, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:33, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

Check the toolbox, there is one dab link.
"399 players on sixteen national ice hockey teams. "-->399 players on 16 national ice hockey teams.
No need to link Canada.
In general, I see inconsistency in number formatting in the lead. Some are written out, others are in numerals. Follow WP:MOSNUM: numbers over ten should be written in numeral form; numbers under ten should be written as words; make comparative quantities in a sentence consistent.
"Russia won the Championship, the second time they had done so, the twenty-fourth title including those won by the Soviet Union." The punctuation makes this sentence very haphazard. Also, who has twenty-four titles?
"Prior to"-->Before
Seeing as "he" is used extensively, can I assume this is a males-only competition?
No links in section titles per WP:ACCESS.
See WP:CAPTION; image captions that are complete sentences should have periods (full stops) at the end. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Addressed all your comments. Kaiser matias (talk) 23:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, we can't use {{flagicon}} either; see this. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:31, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~This hasn't been addressed.~~ Dabomb87 (talk) 14:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:33, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~The general references need to be formatted with publisher, access date, etc.~~ Dabomb87 (talk) 16:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Is there any reason why goalies are also included in the skater section? -- Scorpion ⁰⁴²² 23:22, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Its what the IIHF does, so I followed suit (see Canada for example). It also enables the showing of goalie statistics like assists and PIM, which would look unusual in the goaltender section. Kaiser matias (talk) 00:31, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another comment I've been working on the 2007 equivalent of this list, and I've been wondering if it would be useful to have a team summary table near the top. Something along the lines of:

Rank	Nation	Head coach	Captain	# of players	GP	W	L
9	Belarus	Curt Fraser	Some guy	25	6	1	5
	Canada	Ken Hitchcock	Shane Doan	25	9	8	1

And if you wanted, you could throw in something like leading scorer, leading goalie, etc. This table would accomplish a few things, it would give users a quick reference point for rankings, it would allow a convenient place to link to national teams (since they can't be linked in headers, and using {{main}} 16 times looks weird) and a better place for coaches (because as it is now, they look randomly thrown in). -- Scorpion ⁰⁴²² 03:14, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, except the only problem I can potentially see is that I don't know if there is any sources regarding the captains of the teams, especially for a team like Italy, Norway or Slovenia. I'll look into it over the next few days, and hopefully it is out there somewhere. Kaiser matias (talk) 05:07, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it comes down to it, Captains could be eliminated. -- Scorpion ⁰⁴²² 23:22, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

After looking it over, I'm going to suggest that this may not be the right fit for the rosters list. Seeing how it is about the rosters, it is not as relevent to the article. That said, I would definetly say it should go on the main article, as it would be better placed there. Kaiser matias (talk) 05:20, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

~~Move the full name of the IIHF to an earlier use.~~
"If a country selects fewer than the maximum allowed, they must choose the remaining players prior to the start of the tournament." I think this would be better if it was switched to past tense. There's another sentence like this at the end of the second paragraph. Are these intended to be for the tournament in general?
~~Can some uses of "country: in the third paragraph be changed to something else? There's just so many of them that it becomes tiresome to read after a while.~~
~~"This switch may only happen once in the players life." Missing apostrophe.~~ Giants2008 (17-14) 21:26, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Addressed comments. Kaiser matias (talk) 05:20, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Didn't have many comments to begin with, and they're all addressed now, so I'm happy to support. Great idea for a list. Giants2008 (17-14) 22:27, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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