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William D. Hoard (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator(s): M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 15:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about William D. Hoard, 16th Governor of Wisconsin and founder of Hoard's Dairyman. This is a resubmission of the article to FAC following a failed nom in October and a Peer Review. All prior comments have been addressed and improvements made across the board. Thanks for taking a look! M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 15:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

  • File:William_Dempster_Hoard.png: when and where was this first published?
I have searched far and wide for evidence that this portrait was published in a manner that meaningfully meets the definition of "published" in any of the ways we have discussed as appropriate for when the painting was completed in 1891 or after it was committed to the Wisconsin Historical Society archives in 1908 and I have found none. Copyright law is pretty murky on publication circa 1891, when it was presumably hung in the executive chambers at the Wisconsin Capitol Building. I went to the Commons village pump and asked about this in October and was told by folks there that by hanging it in a place without the means to restrict copying the portrait, it would have been considered published prior to 1978. It was hung in a place that did not specifically restrict copying (the executive chamber, a semi-public place) sometime between 1891 and 1908, so I believe that would count.
These volunteers also said that if the portrait was published "without a copyright notice (before March 1989), or with a notice (before 1964) but no renewal" then it would be public domain. Again, there is no specific evidence of publication in any manner other than hanging the portrait in the executive chamber, nor does the portrait appear in the US Copyright Office's archives from what I could find.
My guess, and that is all it is, is that the portrait was hung after Hoard left office in 1891, so it was published based on the definition the others provided in Madison in 1891, but there is no specific evidence that I have been able to locate of the specific date of hanging. M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 18:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea what tag would be appropriate for that design. M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 18:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Google-fu has eluded me for this tag. I am not entirely sure this image is appropriate at all, given state vs. federal copyright. Wisconsin holds its works in copyright unlike the feds. M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 18:11, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you know when the seal was first used? If it's old enough, it could be in the public domain due to age. Hog Farm Talk 14:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

750h

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Happy to support as per my peer review. 750h+ 16:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]