Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/StarCraft

StarCraft

I'm probably taking a chance with this, since it's been a long time I've taken an active part in FAC, so the standards are certainly higher now than they used to be (which is good, of course). However, as far as I can see, this article cuts it. It's had a really long and healthy maturation time, with much constructive discussion and many different contributors helping on it. It's a good example of a "hub" article about a wildly popular concept. It's got it all: summaries with links to more detailed articles, a large template with all the pages related to the SC universe, links to other wikis, and most of all, detailed, reality-oriented discussion of the subject's relevance as a cult video game. For those who don't care about video games, StarCraft is a legend in gaming. Its impact on the strategy genre can safely be compared to Doom's impact on the shooter genre. Do me a favor and promote this. Phils 16:44, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Support. PedanticallySpeaking 19:02, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Support Good work to all the people who contributed towards this article! — Wackymacs 21:57, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Object: The image Image:StarCraft.png is used for decorative purposes only, and so does not qualify for fair use. It needs to be removed from the article. --Carnildo 22:11, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I removed the image. Phils 22:21, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Excellent article; no apparent issues. Ambi 23:16, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Minor object, please take out the piped html links and include them in the extenal links section, also please provide a full citation for html links used as references in the text so that there is a record of the item being referenced - and if possible convert them to footnotes- they loook nicer.--nixie 01:44, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and did the footnotes, I think the awards section would be better as prose and a screenshot thet demostrates gameplay wouldn't hurt either.--nixie 02:00, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Well-structured for the most part and comprehensive. I'd also rather see the list go, and a one-sentence paragraph jumped out at me, but the problems aren't widespread. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 19:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, how was the influence section created? It doesn't seem to be sourced at all... gren グレン 23:02, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Most references to other fiction works are apparent throughout the game. There is no real "reference" that could be given to show the quotes and appearance are indeed those in "Aliens", apart from the game itself. Some "hero" units simply share their (distinctive) names with fictional characters (Gui Montag from Farenheit, Tom Kazansky). Your comment is valid though; I will try to find authoritative reviews mentioning the similarities to popular fiction works and find images where they are obvious. Phils 05:46, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Support~~Minor object. Can we have at least one screenshot?~~--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 23:36, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Minor object. I agree - there ought to be at least one screenshot up. Otherwise, an excellent article. 72.15.175.129 00:53, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Moderate object I'd like to see more info and discussion regarding the characters and units in the game, which were a big part of what made this a great game. I usually hate storylines, plots, and narratives in games but this was an exception for me. Also, more comparison with Warcraft would be interesting. But I think this is a great subject for an featured article Bwithh 19:00, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Units and characters are discussed in separate, StarCraft-related articles (see StarCraft storyline, Terran, Edmund Duke, Arcturus Mengsk for examples). See the "StarCraft" internal links list at the end of the article. The main article simply cannot discuss all these, because it would become too long; we already had to trim and split it several times. I consider your objection invalid. Phils 22:57, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Conditional Support - Get a screenshot of the game in action, and that's all this article needs. No more detail required in the main article due to having so many sub-articles. It's a detailed, complicated subject, and deserves all those sub-articles, some of which might one day join the main article with featured status. Fieari 16:10, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Two screenshots added. Phils 19:52, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I've seen quite a few computer games articles, and this is a general point about gaming articles, which also seems to apply to this one. It only mentions sales figures in passing, only giving a singular estimate in this article of how many sold. Now, chart positions in gaming are nowhere near as important as in the music industry, but still, I think more should be made of the sales figures, and in what regions. It's not just missing from this article, but also from Super Mario 64 too, which is an FA. Katamari Damacy is a bit better, in that it some further information on the game's sale figures, but still could be improved. I'm not opposing this article because of this though, because other FAs don't have that information in either, but I still think it's useful to include. - Hahnchen 16:11, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Support I think with the minor storyline edit, it meets the standards of a featured article. Kimera757 18:29, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

PS can someone explain something to me? Is StarCraft actually a featured article, or just being nominated for one? The icon at the top of the discussion page is a little unclear about that.