Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Odyssey Number Five

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The article was promoted 00:30, 10 March 2008.

Odyssey Number Five

previous FAC (01:26, 10 February 2008)

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I think all the past issues have been addressed. Here we go again!

Odyssey Number Five is the most successful Powderfinger album, and also the first to chart in the United States. This article covers all major aspects of this topic, and has FA-quality prose, in my opinion. I am happy to make changes per suggestions. Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 10:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support The nominator worked to make sure the issues I found last time were addressed, and they have been. I do not see any addition issues. --Laser brain (talk) 05:45, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support per last nom. Another great article cranked out by H2O. —Burningclean _{[Speak the truth!]} 21:42, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please review WP:PUNC, there are WP:MOSDATE issues (example: .. and an international version was released on 21 May ...), and there are also WP:DASH issues (some sections use endashes, others use emdashes, no consistency). Reliable sources issues: almost the entire article is sourced to http://www.ozmusic-central.com.au/powderfinger/contact.htm SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:39, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I think the punc, date, and dash things are done - I've asked some other people to look at the text to confirm, and also looked myself. There isn't much in the way or RS other than Powderfinger Central...for instance, for ref 15/16, the next best thing is this: [1] (there's also an Ebay listing, but that's not reliable, is it?). Would that suffice? I'll try and replace PCentral for some of the more obvious stuff. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 10:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - You now have unspaced emdashes on lists, instead of endashes. I believe some WP guidelines call for endashes in this case, and every music article I've seen uses endashes. I need independent commentary on the reliability of the sources, as I see no indication on the websites that they are reliable. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:42, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - Removed the stuff that can't be sourced to an RS. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 06:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support, issued I raised on IRC have been dealt with. J Milburn (talk) 10:48, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- For reference, I discussed dash and date issues raised by Sandy above on IRC with J. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 11:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - If you had discussed it instead on the FAC, I might understand why the article uses emdashes where endashes are used in most music articles. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - Here is a guideline, for example, from Albums. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:57, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - OK, I've fixed the dashes per WP:ALBUMS. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 06:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - to me, the lead doesn't seem to adequately summarize the entire article; for example, there's no mention of info on background and production. It seems to me that since it was the shortest album they ever did and was much more stripped down, that's worth mentioning and all.
- - Expanded. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 07:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Fanning said that despite "Like a Dog" being about a political issue, it was not a political song, rather just Powderfinger "voicing our [their] opinions"." Why is there the [their]? From the context, it seems obvious it's Powderfinger talking about themselves, unless I'm mistaken.
  - Yeah, you're right, fixed. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 07:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "Four singles were released from the album. / "My Kind of Scene" was the first; released as a promotional single in June 2000." This seems a bit disjoint. Since the singles are a new idea, it should probably start, not end, the paragraph. "was the first" seems a bit ambiguous, especially without a topic sentence that leads in to it.
  - Changed as suggested. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 07:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I could be missing it, but asides from 7x platinum, are there any numbers on the sales?
  - None that I've seen. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 07:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Why is the track listing at the end of the article? It just seems it would be more relevant right before reception, after production and release. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 15:32, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - General consensus on album articles is to end with a listing. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 07:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
were based on the "obstacles in the way of being in a relationship, especially in our work situation."—Dot position. There are others, too.
- Done that, will check for others. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 07:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What is the image in the infobox?
- The album cover. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 07:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"A 13 second sample"—hyphen, plus the other one.
- Done. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 07:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"mid-'90s"—probably lose the apostrophe nowadays.
- Done. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 07:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
en dashes in lists, not em, would be consistent with other WP articles.
- yep, done. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 07:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"The band spent this time ensuring high quality songs, something they had previously neglected on Internationalist, resulting in out of tune guitars on "Passenger"." Why this result? Hyphenate out-of-tune as a multi-adjective.
- That's the only result they mention...I've reworded it. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 07:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Powderfinger manager Paul Piticco also commented"—remove "also", especially as it appeared two seconds before in the quote. Tony (talk) 02:09, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks as always. Much appreciated. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 07:06, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, we're still on this? Well, I'm stitt giving my support. --rm 'w a vu 11:31, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Two weeks into FAC, I completed the final cleanup myself; someone still needs to review WP:PUNC (I found several errors), and the reference formatting (I found one error), and there were still WP:DASH errors throughout. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:58, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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