Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ice cream/archive1

Ice cream

I believe this article is well-written, informative and meets WP:FAC criteria, which are:

1. It exemplifies our very best work.
2. It is well written, comprehensive, factually accurate, neutral, and stable. Read Great writing and The perfect article to see how high the standards are set. In this respect:
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   • (b) "comprehensive" means that an article covers the topic in its entirety, and does not neglect any major facts or details;
   • (c) "factually accurate" includes supporting of facts with specific evidence and external citations (see Wikipedia:Verifiability); these include a "References" section where the references are set out, complemented where appropriate by inline citations (see Wikipedia:Citing sources). For articles with footnotes or endnotes, the meta:cite format is strongly encouraged;
   • (d) "neutral" means that an article is uncontroversial in its neutrality and factual accuracy (see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view); and
   • (e) "stable" means that an article does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars.
3. It complies with the standards set out in the style manual and relevant WikiProjects. These include having:
   • (a) a concise lead section that summarizes the entire topic and prepares the reader for the higher level of detail in the subsequent sections;
   • (b) a proper system of hierarchical headings; and
   • (c) a substantial but not overwhelming table of contents (see Wikipedia:Section).
4. It has images where appropriate, with succinct captions and acceptable copyright status; however, including images is not a prerequisite for a featured article.
5. It is of appropriate length, staying tightly focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary detail; it uses summary style to cover sub-topics that are treated in greater detail in any 'daughter' articles.

particularly:

1. • (e) "stable" means that an article does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars.

The article hasn't changed significantly too much and has interesting facts relating to the article.

It seems to be very good so far. --TheM62Manchester 07:31, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. The article has many {{fact}} tags. Also, there are many external links within the article text. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 08:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. I will try and get those fixed; as for the external links, so do many other articles. --TheM62Manchester 08:50, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

• Object. This is very far from being featured (even if you copy the requirements to the nomination) being generally unencyclopedic and not comprehensive; please consider a peer review. Jeronimo 10:02, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Needs more (inline) references/citations. Take for example: "Because ice cream is sold by volume, it is economically advantageous for producers to reduce the density of the product in order to cut costs. Indeed, one of Margaret Thatcher's first jobs was to find ways of increasing the air content of ice cream." It should be possible to confirm facts in both these sentences. This is just a sample, it is needed throughout the article.
  • Contains seemingly random statements such as "In 1984, President Ronald Reagan designated July as National Ice Cream Month in the United States, and the third Sunday of the month as National Ice Cream Day.[1]" (in the lead section!) or "On the Mediterranean coast of Turkey, ice cream is sometimes sold to beachgoers from small powerboats equipped with chest freezers." This should be an encyclopedia article, not a random collection of facts and tidbits.
  • The "Ice cream around the world" section is poor. It collects writings of Wikipedians from a few countries, rather than giving a good overview of worldwide ice cream consumption and culture. Again, this should be encyclopedic, not a collection of facts.
  • While the article's lead somewhat narrows the definition of ice cream, much of the article is about other frozen desserts (notably "precurors of ice cream"). Please sort out what the article is about.
  • The external links section is messy, unannotated. Wikipedia is not a web directory.
  • Organization of sections poor; sections "other frozen treats" and "ice cream alternatives" seemingly overlap, a section like "Using liquid nitrogen" should be a subsection of the (non-existing) "How icecream is made".
• Comment. Apologies for nominating this; I'm trying to get WP:1FA. --TheM62Manchester 11:49, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Only one or two users vote on RfA with that rather controversial rule. Heck, even its own creator abandoned it. Adminship is no incentive to push for featured articles — finding a great formula and feeling a sense of accomplishment are. — Deckiller 18:51, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
• Object The lede is too short, and far from a summary of the article's content, per WP:LEAD. The missing citations are also worrisome: the article is included in the "Articles lacking sources" category! The "Ice cream throughout the world" section contains many very short subsections; that should be reorganized, and as noted above, should be comprehensively global, not just a collection of various countries' practices. -Fsotrain09 21:38, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Object This page just lists random facts about ice cream. The organization is horrible and references are poor. This page acts better as a disamb. page than as an article. --GoOdCoNtEnT 07:23, 8 August 2006 (UTC)