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The article was promoted by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 19 August 2019 [1].

HMS Bulwark (1899)

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Nominator(s): Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 13:45, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bulwark was British pre-dreadnought battleship built during the 1890s. She served as a flagship for the first decade of her existence, first for the Mediterranean Fleet and then for the Channel Fleet. She was reduced to reserve in 1910, but continued to participate in the annual fleet manoeuvres. When the First World War began in 1914, she joined other pre-dreadnoughts in escorting the British Expeditionary Fleet as it sailed from Britain to France. Bulwark blew up in November with the loss of almost all of her crew, the subsequent investigation blamed the ignition of cordite charges that had been placed next to a boiler-room bulkhead. She exploded with such force that there was very little to be salvaged. The article passed a MilHist A-class review earlier this month. I'd like reviewers to look for any remaining bits of AmEng, unexplained or unlinked jargon and any infelicitous prose.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 13:45, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CommentsSupport by PM

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Having already reviewed this at Milhist ACR, I have only a few comments:

  • suggest dropping (BS) from the lead, and just introducing it in the body if it is used again
  • say where she exploded in the lead
  • the infobox gives flagship crew numbers in 1904, but this detail isn't really covered in the body, per se
  • suggest "including landings at Lemnos and Nauplia" if that is what is meant?
    • I'm not sure and don't have access to the Times. I've queried the editor who added that bit and hopefully he will be able to look it up and see if we can get a better sense of exactly what was meant. Though I suspect it means port visits.
  • suggest moving fleet review link to first mention in 1903
    • Good catch.
  • suggest "where Domville hauled his flag down again when he completed his posting."
    • It ties into him hoisting his flag aboard in the previous paragraph.
  • for Lords of the Admiralty link List of Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty
  • "and the others had been removed."? Does this mean all the 3-pounders had been removed? If so, just state that?
    • No, she started with six, two were repositioned and the others were removed.

That's all I have. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:14, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

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  • All footnotes are formatted uniformly
  • Sources used are high-quality, reliable, and comprehensive.
  • No spot checks done, but the nominator has a well-established track record. Parsecboy (talk) 20:18, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Support Comments
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  • What's Silverstone on about with the namesake? I was under the impression that the name Bulwark was a reference to the fact that the navy was the "bulwark" of the country. British Warship Names might be able to clarify this, though I won't be able to get it until next week (dunno if there are any libraries near you that have a copy).
    • You're probably right, but I went with what I had. I've ordered the book from ILL.
  • Would Domville's title have been "Commander-in-Chief of the Mediterranean Fleet" or "Commander-in-Chief, Mediterranean Fleet"?
    • The latter would be the more formal title.
  • "She left Plymouth five days later" - this seems a little jarring, since we're in a new paragraph in a new section from the date it's referencing
    • That para is all about her movement and activities, which seemed a bit of a disconnect from her commissioning.
  • "fleet review at Spithead conducted by the List of Lords of the Admiralty" - is "List of Lords of the Admiralty" right? That sounds like it's the title of a wiki list. Also, wouldn't it be "conducted for the Lords"?
    • No, I screwed up the link. Ball specifically says "by" the Lords, so they were doing the reviewing.
  • " After covering the safe transportation of the British Expeditionary Force to France in August, the 5th BS remained in Portsmouth until 4 September, when they returned to Portland where they stayed through October aside from exercises." - this reads awkwardly to me, especially the "when...where..." bit. You might split it after they returned to Portsmouth, and then rework the rest as "They remained there through October, only going to sea for exercises" or something. (ping me when you're done - I'm still hacking away at translating Nottelmann)Parsecboy (talk) 15:20, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

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Coming soon. Kees08 (Talk) 00:55, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Should probably be all. Thanks. Kees08 (Talk) 06:59, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for looking these over.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:32, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator notes

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I've added this to the Urgents list but it will need to be archived soon if it does not receive some additional reviews. --Laser brain (talk) 11:43, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'll add a full review to my source review today. Parsecboy (talk) 13:36, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Looking forward to it.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 13:58, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support by Gog the Mild

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"Ask me for anything but time."

  • "served with the Channel and Home Fleets from 1907 to 1912, usually as a flagship. From 1910 to 1914, she was in reserve" A casual read would suggest that she was both in service and in reserve during at least much of 1910-1912.
  • "From 1910 to 1914, she was in reserve. After a refit in 1912, she was assigned to the 5th Battle Squadron of the Home Fleet." Similarly 1912-1914.
  • "her remains were designated as a controlled site" Is "as" necessary?
  • "Note 1: "18 cwt" → '12 cwt'.
  • "for combined manoeuvres, landing at Lemnos and Nauplia" Picky, picky, but would 'stopping' or similar be a better word than "landing"?
  • "Captain Arthur Leveson temporarily assumed command on 3 January" Would the year be appropriate
  • "4 nmi" IMO this should be given in full. I don't think that it is an abbreviation which many readers can be expected to have come across.
  • "ruled out external explosions like a torpedo or a mine" Suggest "like" → 'such as'.
  • "30 ft (9.1 m)" Optional: the conversion seems spuriously accurate to me.

That is all I have. Another sound piece of work. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:11, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And in turn for your rapid response. Leaving aside images and sources this meets all of the criteria, so happy to support. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:44, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by CPA-5

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  • on the 10th, then proceeded to Malta Unlink Malta.
  • The ship visited Trondheim, Norway, on 18 June Unlink Norway.
  • Captain Robert Falcon Scott of Antarctic fame Unlink Antarctic.
    • You know how I feel about geography links.
  • Link "normal" in the infobox.
    • Can't, every navy defined normal load differently.

That's anything from me. Not much but it can help you. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 22:07, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not to worry, I appreciate you taking time to look it over.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:59, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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