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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 00:03, 16 June 2008 [1].

Germany Schulz

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I'm nominating this article for featured article because it has been stable as a WP:GA for some time and is extensive enough and interesting enough to be a WP:FA. This is one of many Michigan Wolverines football bio articles that I worked on with User:Cbl62. He did most of the research on this one and my contributions were more organizational. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Most issues resolved Giants2008 (talk) 21:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - A lot more information than I would expect for an early 1900s college football player. Here are some issues I found during my first run-through.

When these are done, I'll come back to read more of it. Giants2008 (talk) 18:44, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm back for more, as I promised. I left a note above, so check that out.
  • I don't think you can find a source for this, but I'd like to know how he returned to Michigan after 1906, especially since one report says he was basically kicked out. Later the article implies that Michigan's fortunes took a turn for the worse, so I'm sure that was a factor.
  • This seems quite heavy on quotes. I presume that the sources avaliable dictated this, but paraphrasing a couple wouldn't hurt.
  • When I work with Cbl62 he finds quotes and inserts them. I could paraphrase things, but I do not know the context of the surrounding paragraphs in the articles so I just work with his quotes. Do you want me to paraphrase his selection of quotes from articles I have not read?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:56, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • In some of the more modern player articles I am able to balance out his quoting with more paraphrased contributions and greater emphasis on statistics. I work with him less on older players because I am unable to balance them out and I don't know how to contribute as effectively. This athlete is so extraordinary an individual that I decided to work along.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • However, it is not clear that there is any policy suggesting heavy quoting is undesirable.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Controversy over eligibility for 1908: "before the making of the rule on freshman ineligibility". This is awkward, so change it to, "before the conference's rule was enacted."
  • Comma between "Michigan where"
  • "about inaccurate reporting about his age" Change to "of his age".
  • I'm not a fan of using "In fact" to rebut material from Schulz's time. Isn't it our job to deal in facts?
  • Awards and accolades: Picky, but Century should be in italics, since it was a magazine.
  • Another Grantland Rice link.
  • Tulane University: Comma after "take charge of the linemen during football season".
  • Later life: "including as state agent for an insurance company" Should this be "a state agent"?
There's the rest of the minor flaws I could find. Giants2008 (talk) 22:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Current ref 1 "Schulz to play center" is lacking where it was publsihed?
  • Same for ref 21. "Schultz Played Star Game against Penn..."
  • Current ref 51 is lacking a publisher ( Glamourless Gridirons..) Deadlinked for me too.
  • Current ref 60 is lacking where it was published (Mrs Sophia Schulz is dead...)
Sources look good. Links checked out okay with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 02:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I am handicapped by the source being from a newservice that a co-author used. I can not recover any further detail. He is unsubscribed now to my knowledge. He is not becoming active in this discussion, so what you see is what you get.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:31, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I tried logging on to add the publisher cites this afternoon. These articles were derived from the microfilm newspapers of http://newspaperarchive.com/ However, that company is based on Cedar Rapids, Iowa, which is presently under water, causing power loss and loss of service, per that link. Accordingly, I cannot access the information at this time.Cbl62 (talk) 19:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Gary King (talk) 20:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gary King (talk) 16:33, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Support - I'm not happy about a couple of the reference issues I described above, but it does seem comprehensive considering the time period. Overall, gets one thumb up from me. Giants2008 (talk) 21:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kelly hi! 19:41, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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