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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by Karanacs 17:48, 24 June 2011 [1].

Everything That Happens Will Happen Today

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Nominator(s): —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:16, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured article because I've worked hard on this article several times for several years to bring it to FA status and I've done all of the additions and copy-editing that I think I can before bringing it to FA, including two prior nominations and a peer review. If anyone has suggestions during this process, I can meet them. If you look at the previous two nominations, they were held up mostly due to lack of enthusiasm from reviewers and concerns about copyrights which were met. (Aside: I would really like to this to pass before August 18, as that is the three-year anniversary of the album and could be a good opportunity to nominate it for the main page.) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:16, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- Check your references. You need publishers for all those newspapers, and many sites and magazines you used in your sources. Also, for location, as indicated on the template page for {{citenews}}, you only need city (eg Toronto or London), and not the redundant "London, England, United Kingdom", or "New York City, New York, United States". Also, ref number 8 has no publisher, access-date, or url. Is it an online or paper source? Orane (talk) 09:07, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - I appreciate the work that's gone into this article, but I don't feel it yet meets the FA criteria. I'd be happy to re-assess once some of the below have been addressed. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:45, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Some copy-editing is needed for clarity, grammar and flow. For example, "The same lossless and MP3 options were available for purchase and marketing was again handled by Topspin Media and the company created a second embeddable media player for the EP."
  • WP:MOS editing needed. For example, "%" should be spelled out in article text
  • Newspaper or magazine articles without weblinks need page numbers
  • Source formatting issues raised by Orane above need to be dealt with. In general, source formatting needs to be much more consistent
  • Don't include cited sources in External links
  • What makes this a high-quality reliable source? This source is a self-published blog,, so be careful how you use it (and how much)
  • Given the size of the article, the lead should be slightly longer
  • Don't use contractions
  • This and this are dead links, check for others
  • WP:OVERLINK
  • File:David_Byrne_and_Brian_Eno_-_Everything_That_Happens_Will_Happen_Today_deluxe.jpg - source link is dead
  • File:Everything_That_Happens_Will_Happen_Today_closeup.png - FUR needs work. In particular, you need to actually state who holds copyright to this image. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:45, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Things to do
  • Publishers for all those newspapers, and many sites and magazines you used in your sources.
  • For location, as indicated on the template page for {{citenews}}, you only need city (eg Toronto or London) Comment: The template explicitly gives examples that aren't just the city.
  • Ref number 8 has no publisher, access-date, or url. Is it an online or paper source?
  • Some copy-editing is needed for clarity, grammar and flow. For example, "The same lossless and MP3 options were available for purchase and marketing was again handled by Topspin Media and the company created a second embeddable media player for the EP." Comment: I've done some of this and addressed your specific concern--this is the hardest part for me, and I've gone through the article several times to copyredit the prose. I'll continue to do this as you think appropriate.
  • WP:MOS editing needed. For example, "%" should be spelled out in article text Comment: Again, this specific incident was fixed and I'm looking at the MOS now to see what else I can amend.
  • Newspaper or magazine articles without weblinks need page numbers
  • Don't include cited sources in External links Comment: the only external links used in the article are to Allmusic and Metacritic; it's pretty common to use these cites in external links--hence the templates. Are these really a problem?
  • What makes this a high-quality reliable source? This source is a self-published blog,, so be careful how you use it (and how much)
  • Given the size of the article, the lead should be slightly longer
  • Don't use contractions
  • This and this are dead links, check for others
  • WP:OVERLINK
  • File:David_Byrne_and_Brian_Eno_-_Everything_That_Happens_Will_Happen_Today_deluxe.jpg - source link is dead
  • File:Everything_That_Happens_Will_Happen_Today_closeup.png - FUR needs work. In particular, you need to actually state who holds copyright to this image.


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