Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Bishop John Carroll (statue)/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was archived by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 14 March 2019 [1].

Bishop John Carroll (statue)

Nominator(s): Ergo Sum 04:48, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about a statue commemorating John Carroll, the first Catholic bishop in the United States and the founder of Georgetown University. The statue is located in a prominent position in front of Healy Hall, the university's flagship building in Washington, D.C. I expanded this article from a de facto stub, and it is now a Good Article. Any and all comments are appreciated; please accept my thanks in advance. Ergo Sum 04:48, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

In general don't use fixed px size
- Fixed. Ergo Sum 05:08, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As the US does not have freedom of panorama for sculpture, all photos of the statue should include an explicit copyright tag for the original work
- @Nikkimaria: Since I'm not terribly familiar with Commons licensing tags, can you link to an example of a public sculpture that is appropriately licensed, for reference? Ergo Sum 05:08, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - File:Anne_Hutchinson_statue.jpeg. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:09, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    - Thanks. Fixed. Ergo Sum 15:35, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
File:John_Carroll_statue_unveiling.png: when/where was this first published? Same with File:John_Carroll_statue_unveiling_side_view.jpg
- The source seems to suggest that its publication was soon after its taking. Ergo Sum 05:08, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Any further details on that? Nikkimaria (talk) 13:09, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    - I can't seem to find the photos elsewhere on the internet. The book source references the Georgetown University Archives as their original source. Ergo Sum 15:35, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      - You might try contacting the archives directly. It's not uncommon for archival images to be unpublished - if the 2003 book were the first confirmed publication for this set that would present a problem with regards to copyright status, as the current tagging requires publication (not just creation) before 1924. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:00, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        I'll try that. Ergo Sum 01:49, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        @Nikkimaria: I followed your advice. It turns out that nothing is known about when the images were first published, just the date they were taken. Do you know how this bears on copyright status? Ergo Sum 19:58, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        Without knowing the author, and with no known earlier publication, they probably aren't PD - see the terms of PD-US-unpublished. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:58, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest swapping out one of the photos of the statue for an image of either the subject or sculptor. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:42, 16 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Ergo Sum 05:08, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Nikkimaria: Also, I've added some new photos. Could you please do an image review for them too? Ergo Sum 06:45, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
File:John_Carroll_Gilbert_Stuart.jpg needs a US PD tag
- Done. Ergo Sum 15:35, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Coord note

This has been open a month with only comments on the images so I'm going to archive it, but am happy to waive the usual two-week wait if you want to renominate in short order -- perhaps it's just got kinda lost in the middle of the list here... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 00:16, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 00:38, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.