Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/Late Registration/archive1
Late Registration is the second studio album by American rapper Kanye West, released on August 30, 2005. The album saw West venture into an elaborate and orchestral style, which brought him widespread critical success. The album was also successful commercially, reaching number one on the US Billboard 200 and releasing multiple hit singles, including the smash hit "Gold Digger". West promoted the album with the Touch the Sky Tour (2005–06) and the live album Late Orchestration (2006).
- Contributor(s): K. Peake, Bruce Campbell
I have worked very hard on these articles for the past few years, which began to see early results when "Touch the Sky" became a GA in December 2019 and I scored my most recent one with "Heard 'Em Say" in June 2022! Late Registration achieved this status before I was even an editor on here, however I tried to bring it to FA earlier in 2022 with extensive work but to no avail, though the album is of significant importance to potentially become a FA. Update: I have now created an article for the Touch the Sky Tour and I have managed to expand it enough to become a GAN it has become a GA, which I have added to this nomination as the co-ordinators are fine with. --K. Peake 07:27, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
OpposeNeutral: I hate to be a downer, but it's typical for an album topic to include any supporting tours and live albums associated with the studio album, which, in this case, would mean Late Orchestration and, at some point, an article about the Touch the Sky Tour, once someone writes one. No disrespect to your work on all these articles! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 13:42, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Bryanrutherford0
The Touch The Sky Tour was not notable enough to have its own article created and is mentioned in the main article anyway. Also,Late Orchestration was released as late as 2006 and features songs from The College Dropout too.Therefore, these are not needed for the GT.I have created an article for the tour now and it is in the process of expansion; if this passes at GAN, will you support the GT? --K. Peake 21:04, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- That goes a long way toward addressing my concerns! I'm not sure I can support without the live album (it's even named after this studio album), but I can probably go neutral. Great job doing the work to solve the problem! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 13:07, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'll think more about the live album in the future, which will lead to probable further discussion with you on this topic. K. Peake 13:00, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- That goes a long way toward addressing my concerns! I'm not sure I can support without the live album (it's even named after this studio album), but I can probably go neutral. Great job doing the work to solve the problem! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 13:07, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Bryanrutherford0
- Support: Amazing work on all these articles, including "Gone" and "Hey Mama" where you provided sources that make said articles pass WP:NSongs.
On "Hey Mama" after the sources you have this written there "The year of 2000 Kanye produced this song and enlisted Naki the Beatman producer 107.5 radio personality who brought Kanye Mysta Jay for vocals. Naki's vocal mate of r&b group Precyyse." → remove. On "Drive Slow" one archive error on source 33. Reference 16 shouldn't be Slant Magazine? In several articles, such as "Touch the Sky", you use "Vulture", always url-access=limited. DJ Booth is not a reliable source, according to Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources. On "Heard 'Em Say" can you replace sources 113 and 117? References 65, 66 and 68 are duplicated from the chart table. Source 77 is missing the author. I will add more later. On "Diamonds from Sierra Leone" amazon is referenced in one source but not on the other (22, 23 and 109), also not sure about the reliability of rocklist.net.MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 13:40, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- MarioSoulTruthFan I have done all of your points, apart from the replacement of sources 113 and 117 because the GA criteria says dead links are allowed, removal of refs 65 and 68 since these are using a refname cited from the table so are not duplicates while ref 66 is needed separately for the specific chart issue and ref 77 already cites the author so you must've missed something. --K. Peake 09:35, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
The article I wanted to mention with those sources was "Touch the Sky", really sorry about it. On "Gold Digger" source 37 has both work and publisher, stick to one, and is Playlouder a reliable source?MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 10:05, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I made those fixes for the song article now apart from the ref 77 one, as there is no author for that source. Also, ref 37 does not have any publisher and Playlouder is reliable due to having partnered with Glastonbury. --K. Peake 07:49, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- I meant 76, Idolator Staff. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 02:07, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- MarioSoulTruthFan Staff are not supposed to cited under this parameter, as they do fit in the authors category. Also, I've made all of the other fixes apart from where noted. --K. Peake 06:22, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Regarding the album sources it is flawless, congrats! I just want to know if "The Ringer", seems to be a good source for sports, is it good for music? I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:09, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- MarioSoulTruthFan There is an entire section on music just like sports, so that shows it'll be reliable for both. --K. Peake 15:10, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- So I wanted to support this nomination. However, I can't as Bryan Rutherford made a good point. There is missing the tour article and I found some sources to create said article and with a few more researches you can get more info and make it a GA. This is what I found with a quick search. To be honest, fantastic job on everything else!
- Best wishes, MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:06, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, thanks for showing the sources that would provide notability for the tour. However, I will obviously have to create the article, then nominate it successfully for GA status. Because of this, should this candidacy remain open if I begin work or close since the article will be completely missing until the latest scenario? K. Peake 11:47, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- You welcome. I'm not sure, it's better ask the coordinators. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:18, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, thanks for showing the sources that would provide notability for the tour. However, I will obviously have to create the article, then nominate it successfully for GA status. Because of this, should this candidacy remain open if I begin work or close since the article will be completely missing until the latest scenario? K. Peake 11:47, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- MarioSoulTruthFan There is an entire section on music just like sports, so that shows it'll be reliable for both. --K. Peake 15:10, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- MarioSoulTruthFan Staff are not supposed to cited under this parameter, as they do fit in the authors category. Also, I've made all of the other fixes apart from where noted. --K. Peake 06:22, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I made those fixes for the song article now apart from the ref 77 one, as there is no author for that source. Also, ref 37 does not have any publisher and Playlouder is reliable due to having partnered with Glastonbury. --K. Peake 07:49, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- MarioSoulTruthFan I have now created an article for the tour using the sources you pointed towards and a few more, which is in the process of expansion and should be nominated by me soon enough; I have left a message for the coordinators that they will likely see shortly. --K. Peake 06:33, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Good job so far! MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:54, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- MarioSoulTruthFan I have now nominated the tour for GA; will you be willing to review it or merely come back to this topic if the review passes to comment or voice support? --K. Peake 11:19, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi! I won't be reviewing the article since I'm a bit tired from the GA backlog, hopefully, you understand. Yes, I will come back to this topic once you add the tour, just let me know. Nevertheless, I'm still on the fence regarding the Late Orchestration live album, as it shares songs from both albums. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 11:44, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Bryanrutherford0 and MarioSoulTruthFan, the Touch the Sky Tour has now been promoted to GA status and regarding Late Orchestration, not only does it feature music from both albums but the bear theme is frequent throughout West's 2004-07 work. Not only does this make it merely consist with his work rather than only LR, the live album was also released as late as 2006 so hardly accompanied the studio one. Support now or any other comments? --K. Peake 10:17, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- As far as the timing goes, the live performance of which Late Orchestration is a recording was given three weeks after the public release of Late Registration, so, the timing rather tends to support my view that the live performance was indeed given in support of the newly released album. I'm neutral on the proposal without it. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 14:50, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- If Bryanrutherford is neutral about it. I won't stand on the way of this becoming a GT. Changing to support MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:36, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- MarioSoulTruthFan I have done all of your points, apart from the replacement of sources 113 and 117 because the GA criteria says dead links are allowed, removal of refs 65 and 68 since these are using a refname cited from the table so are not duplicates while ref 66 is needed separately for the specific chart issue and ref 77 already cites the author so you must've missed something. --K. Peake 09:35, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Director comment - This nomination seems to be stalled with just one Support and one Neutral vote. I'm thinking this should be closed and maybe a new nomination should be made to get new eyes on whether the topic should be promoted. Does that sound good? GamerPro64 04:58, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- GamerPro64 Let's bare in mind that for a moment I had updated this topic mid-nomination with my intention to add the Touch the Sky Tour, making many users likely to abstain voting during the time I realized it needed an additional article. Now it has been added and I have received another support, so at least try keeping this open for longer don't you think? --K. Peake 08:13, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
- Perhaps ping some of the users who participated at the album's FAC? FrB.TG (talk) 10:12, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
- Wehwalt, ErnestKrause, 100cellsman and TheAmazingPeanuts, you are some of the users who supported the FAC so I'd like to ask how do you feel about this GT? --K. Peake 07:27, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Looks like a complete topic to me. Great work. FrB.TG (talk) 20:30, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Support - I believe that the criteria have been met. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 15:02, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Kyle is a diligent editor who has been doing a diligent effort for the Kayne West articles at Wikipedia. That means a +1 support from myself. ErnestKrause (talk) 10:09, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
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