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Viva Van

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Article deleted by consensus last month; G4 Speedy contested. Additional sources added by contester still don't appear to meet GNG as they are either results/routine coverage or interviews with the subject. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 21:14, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Viva Van is currently active with AEW/ROH, the previous discussion was relisted however it was deleted before any additional discussion could take place, I've added an article from the Miami Herald, as well as several Fightful Select, Post Wrestling etc. links which we use on several pages concerning independent wrestlers. I think her role in the CMLL Women's championship match against Willow Nightingale is a good example of notability. Thief-River-Faller (talk) 21:19, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:59C0:5620:58ED:634F:B3D5:5673 (talk) 21:58, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Same reasoning as my !vote a month or so ago, just not enough to show notability. Match reports are about all that come up. Oaktree b (talk) 00:33, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Creator of the article here, my reasoning is similar to that of Thief-River-Faller. She makes recurring appearances in AEW/ROH (even if only as an "enhancement talent"), and has made appearances for both of Mexico's main promotions, AAA (appearing at their main event of the year, Triplemanía, in 2023) and CMLL (the aforementioned women's championship match involving Willow Nightingale), and as a result has been subject of articles from mainstream publications such as the Miami Herald. EdgarCabreraFariña (talk) 11:29, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Just last month. a previous AFD closed as Delete so I think the discussion would benefit from a little more time.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I've added more sources to the article where she is the primary topic. One source is Pro Wrestling Illustrated, which is a generally reliable source on WikiProject Pro Wrestling's list of sources, as well as an interview conducted by Denise Salcedo. Salcedo is an employee of Wrestling Observer Newsletter and Fightful, both of which are considered reliable sources by the aforementioned list. These new sources, in addition to sources already in the article, help her clear WP:SIGCOV criteria. CeltBrowne (talk) 21:11, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Interviews of the subject cannot be used to meet WP:GNG due to not being independent of the subject. Both of the sources you added were interviews with the subject. I'm still not seeing anything in the article which indicates the subject has met GNG in the month since the last article was deleted (which, if this is kept, should be undeleted and attributed to, since I don't think there was much different). ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 21:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment As I pointed, my main concern is the sources. Wrestlers need reliable sources focusing on them. Most of the article is just WP:RESULTS, that means, reports about TV shows where she worked, but the report is not about her. We can use Cagematch and create articles for every wrestler on the planet, that's why we need to include sources about the wrestler. For example, AEW section has 5 sources, 4 of them, WP:RESULTS. ROH section has 1 source, which is WP:RESULTS (Her ROH career isn't notable). Impact Wrestling has one source, WP:RESULTS. Almost every match on the Independent Circuit it's WP:RESULTS (I don't get why her work with Hoodslam it's relevant at all). We can't just take matches from famous promotions to create an article. On the other side, it's fine to read articles from Denice or Miami Herald about her. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:24, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the Denice interview has too little secondary context to base a BLP article off of it, especially so since in this instance it's published on The Sportster which is redlisted at WP:RS/PS#Valnet and specifically listed as unreliable at WP:PW/RS. The PWI interview is literally just the raw interview on YouTube. Even if we count Miami Herald, that's still one source. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 16:24, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. This article is a moving target as sources are being added and removed during the course of this discussion. Sources that merely mention an appearance in a match and pure interviews are not considered SIGCOV. A source assessment table might help settle the disagreement over the quality of the sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:07, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Final relist for more input (hopefully).
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Comment - Here is an SA table:

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table:
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/mariah-may-vs-viva-van-added-87-aew-dynamite	Third-party industry press	WP:PW/RS; Personal opinions of Sean Ross Sapp aside, consensus is that Fightful is reliable	strictly WP:ROUTINE coverage of a booking.	✘ No
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/fighting/article277229318.html		Mainstream broadsheet paper/online; owned by McClatchy	I have to skim between hitting refresh here because they won't take my Canadian address to remove the paywall, but this does appear to contain SIGCOV in a bio	✔ Yes
https://wrestletalk.com/news/aew-dynamite-debut-announced-viva-van/		WP:PW/RS; WP:TERTIARY gossip website with no editorial structure posted on the website	WP:ROUTINE	✘ No
https://www.thesportster.com/viva-van-women-wrestler-interview-career/	This is based on an interview with the subject	The Sportster is redlisted due to ownership by Valnet (WP:RS/PS#Valnet) and is also specifically listed as unreliable at WP:PW/RS	~ Too little secondary context to base a BLP article on the English Wikipedia.	✘ No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVVC9Phfx1s&ab_channel=ProWrestlingIllustrated	A direct upload of an interview with the subject	~ PWI is listed as reliable at WP:PW/RS, but this is a direct upload to YouTube of an apparently unedited video	Purely an interview on YouTube.	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Miami Herald makes one GNG-compliant source out of what has been added since the article was recreated. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 17:09, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - She has Sigcov and she's currently an active wrestler for AEW, ROH, TJPW and NJPW. There's really no point in deleting this with her currently being active as the second she wins another title, gets injured, gets signed somewhere, retires or dies, there will be more coverage on her. There's also some more coverage if you search her name in Japanese (ビバ・バン). She likely also got a profile in the プロレスカラー選手名鑑2023 (it has a profile on every wrestler who wrestled down to very small indy levels in Japan in 2023), which would be another independent source. KatoKungLee (talk) 01:47, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Multiple issues here:

1) As I've shown above, we only have significant coverage from Miami Herald, and that's not enough to meet GNG for any topic, let alone a biography of a living person.

2) Notability is not inherited from the organizations one works for.

3) "...as the second she wins another title, gets injured, gets signed somewhere, retires or dies, there will be more coverage on her." Yes, that is why we have a guideline on routine coverage. "Dog bites man" or, in this case, "Wrestler does [thing] wrestling" is not significant coverage.

4) If there are Japanese sources, please present them. It is not up to non-Japanese speakers to search for Japanese sources, especially offline sources, for use in the English Wikipedia. Again, BLPs have higher standards that other articles and therefore we must have concrete evidence that sources exist. Attestations aren't enough.

5) Databases or catalogs do not have significant coverage. If we counted those sources towards GNG, then we would become a database, which we are not. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 04:27, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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2014 AC Nagano Parceiro season

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Fails WP:GNG. Severe lack of sources and content. The only reference is from a primary source. EpicAdventurer (talk) 13:54, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Creator is globally locked. The page is not great, but is a part of a series of 2014 J3-League club seasons. Geschichte (talk) 11:11, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Fumiya Suzuki (footballer, born 1998)

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Playing 6 games in Singapore and some in the Japanese third tier is a very weak claim to notability. No significant coverage. Creator is globally locked. Geschichte (talk) 07:04, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tatsuya Sambongi

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Playing 13 games in Singapore is a very weak claim to notability. No significant coverage. Creator is indefinitely blocked. Geschichte (talk) 07:04, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:44, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Akiya Wada

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Playing 14 games in Singapore is a very weak claim to notability. No significant coverage. Creator is indefinitely blocked. Geschichte (talk) 07:04, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:44, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Koki Sato

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Playing 14 games in Singapore is a very weak claim to notability. No significant coverage. Creator is indefinitely blocked. Geschichte (talk) 07:04, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:43, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lü Xue'an

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Does not appear to meet WP:SPORTSCRIT. Undertook a search for name in Chinese and did not yield much. Player of lower Chinese league China League Two. LibStar (talk) 01:41, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment According to his Japanese Wikipedia article, he's played for the Shonan Bellmare, making him a professional player who's played in Japan's top tier. Adding nomination to the Japan list. _dk (talk) 03:50, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't read Japanese, but what I do read is the numbers beside the Japanese club in the infobox: 0. In other words he did not play in any tier. The English article has the Japan spell as one of his youth clubs, i.e. not professional. Geschichte (talk) 12:37, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Unfortunately, the creator made a lot of articles that (barely) fit with the guidelines of the day, now obsolete, and do not fit with current guidelines. Cleaning it up is a large, but necessary undertaking. Geschichte (talk) 12:39, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete' – Fails in WP:GNG, or at least, in WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 03:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Probably not enough to save the article but have fleshed it out a bit. Davidlofgren1996 (talk) 20:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ikuma Osaka

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 6 minutes in Singapore as well as some amateur leagues in different countries. Geschichte (talk) 08:59, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:51, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Lacks media coverage. References appear to be from non-quality sites, and profiles only.Mysecretgarden (talk) 04:11, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taiyo Nishida

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played briefly in Singapore and not much else is known about him. Creator is indefinitely blocked. (PS. This is my last AFD today.) Geschichte (talk) 09:01, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – He only played for the Singapore branch of Albirex Niigata, clearly fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:50, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

System Technology-i Co, Ltd

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Article about a company which doesn't seem to meet WP:CORP / WP:SIGCOV. It cites 19 sources but if you look at them, none seem to be independent reliable sources about this company. The first is an article about 100 companies doing exhibits at an event in Malaysia, just a passing mention. References 2-4 are financial reports (first party primary sources). Reference 5 is the company's defunct linkedin, references 7 and 9 are websites of the company's products. References 13 to 19 are directory listings on a business partner's website. The Yahoo article is actually a press release. That leaves only the (deleted) PDFs of articles supposedly from Nikkei Sangyo Shimbun. I can't track down the articles at this time, but with titles like "System Technology-i and Delivering training over iPad device" they sound like more press releases.

Admittedly there's a language barrier, and the company is apparently no longer in business. But none of the sources currently cited are anywhere close to being the kind of coverage we'd need to see to establish notability. Here2rewrite (talk) 00:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per the nominator’s comprehensive rationale. Mccapra (talk) 21:02, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brenda Schad

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Subject fails WP:GNG for not having significant coverage from independent, reliable sources. COI history doesn't help either. Gheus (talk) 01:12, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: From the article: "Brenda and Jeannine McCann co-founded the company Tribe of Two". So all those references are primary sources, too. _signed,Willondon (talk) 01:48, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Doddodo

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No references, seems to fail GNG Kingsmasher678 (talk) 01:16, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - not nearly enough in-depth refs from reliable, independent sources to meet WP:SIGCOV.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:50, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete unless someone adds sources: how has a BLP article survived since 2007 with no sources except the non-RS Discogs? PamD 08:12, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete nothing on it. Xegma(talk) 13:55, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kitty Films

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There are seemingly notable productions associated with them, but I couldn't find sources to evidence it meets WP:ORG / WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 20:19, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, did you try searching anything in the Japanese language? I don't know the company but despite the poor sourcing, it appears to be notable if the article is correct Andre🚐 20:36, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Driftwood Cottage

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Does not meet WP:GNG and insufficient to be presumed notable by WP:NGEO. Suggesting redirect to George W. Reamer#Professional background, which has been done twice by two separate editors but being objected by an editor. Graywalls (talk) 03:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Strikes me as notable - I performed a quick search for citations and added a couple books which mention the subject. I may also send an email to the Monterey County Historical Society to see what resources they have should this article be kept (and welcome anyone else doing so). DCsansei (talk) 08:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On an aside, was this listed as "Japan" simply because of the garden or is there a further connection? DCsansei (talk) 08:32, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DCsansei:, by "mention" is it significant coverage? Reference bombing with "mentions" can't compensate for lack of in-depth significant coverage. It's just like if a really large slab of wood is sought after, a whole bunch of wood chips won't substitute it and that's basically what packing together a bunch of sources with a mere mention is attempting to do. I put it in Japan category based on "Architectural style(s) Japanese architecture". Graywalls (talk) 13:27, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment buildings that would otherwise not be notable often become so because of previous occupants. This of course will immediately trigger the knee-jerk reaction about the essay WP:INHERIT (which has tons of qualifiers and warnings about usage). We have many examples of buildings that became notable because of previous occupants, for example Bron-Yr-Aur, "best known for its association with the English rock band Led Zeppelin". The place and the people who lived there become "associated" ie. the place is famous because of the famous people associated with it. This of course needs to be backed up with sources, which is why INHERIT does not apply, so long as there are sources, there is nothing wrong with a place made famous by famous residents. -- GreenC 14:46, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to George W. Reamer (the builder/architect who is notable) or alternatively to Jean Arthur a notable actress who lived in the house for a while and apparently did a lot of entertaining there. I gave the subject of this AfD a lot of thought before coming here to !vote. The house itself is not notable, the sources describe it in relation to the Reamer or Arthur. I'm sure it is or was a very nice house with a beautiful view, there are a lot of nice homes for wealthy Californians in Carmel – this one is not wiki-notable. It's one of scores California "celebrity homes" (WP:MILL). It is not on the NRHP or even the state registry (neither of which would confer an "instant" notability pass anyways). There are a few claims in the article that I have been unable verify in the sources. Netherzone (talk) 13:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Celebrities need to live somewhere, so you are right there are probably many in CA. More important is if reliable sources talk about it, is how notability is assessed. -- GreenC 04:57, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: If this building is deemed not notable enough for its own article, there's actually a section dedicated to it at Jean Arthur#Driftwood Cottage, which might be a suitable merge or redirect target. Left guide (talk) 06:33, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to an appropriate target. Not enough coverage. Bearian (talk) 18:41, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting to explain situation with redirects. Almost all of the content was removed from George W. Reamer and then it was converted to a Redirect so that is not a viable target article. It should appear as a green link.
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Jeremy Curl

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Lack of notability Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 02:37, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete yes mostly the sections are unsourced. Xegma(talk) 03:52, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Have added sources and more about his recent film on AppleTV 31.217.244.67 (talk) 14:42, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pinch to Punch

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This lacks WP:SIGCOV even the article knows it limited information has surfaced online. Oricon yield no result, Natalie yield no result, even the Japanese article has one source, the only thing I could find that is RS is from the Media Arts Database Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 06:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Also nominating this related articles with the same reason as above

Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 06:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Keep) and improve with sources from the Japanese WP, that has a lot considering it's a 1969-1970 series! -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(My initial !vote above is about Zen-chan Tsū-chan). I hadn't seen this was a bundled nom when I !voted through the assisted script. Procedural keep. These series have very little in common. And it's hard to discuss and improve the 3 at the same time without long tedious explanations and comments about what precisely is relevant to each case. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC) (The nominator indicates they nominated the pages "with the same reason" but the 2nd article has >10 references to reliable newspapers on JaWP, for example.)[reply]
I'll just seperate the 2nd one. Thanks for pointing out Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 13:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, my mention of ’the 2nd article’ is unclear: for the record, I mean Zen-chan Tsū-chan. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:03, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirects to the respective networks should also be considered.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to see some way to keep the content, and suggest a merge to Fuji Television. For the ones which are made by Fuji, which doesn't include Zen-chan (please, please, don't do combined nominations of disparate articles!). Not sure about Zen-chan, as like @Mushy Yank this came up as a single article for me and I hadn't given it any thought before starting this comment
On Pinch to Punch it's unfortunate that there is so little secondary material out there although it seems even the primary material has been lost. This attests to its importance in the context of the development of Anime. This article could be perfectly happy as a stub, verified by what little information is out there, but it's hard to make a case for IAR on this. Oblivy (talk) 07:09, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The issue with developing these articles would be our inability to access archives which would have information about an anime series from 50 years ago. Hard to imagine that Pinch and Punch, a series with 156 episodes airing on a national TV channel, wouldn't be notable with access to the correct archives. If someone is interested, perhaps Fuji or the National Film Archive of Japan can help? I would personally either keep or merge the articles at a minimum. DCsansei (talk) 07:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There is no consensus here. But I don't see any support for Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:51, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Yes lack of WP:SIGCOV.

Note - maximum sources are databases. and it's an enough reason to delete. Xegma(talk) 13:28, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. That is not true. References to Japanese newspapers of the time on the JA WP page. See my comments above, thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 01:07, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's multi-paragraph coverage in this book at 634, less extensive at 132, 146, and 268. Oblivy (talk) 02:00, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mizuki Otake

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Fails WP:BLP and WP:NBAD Stvbastian (talk) 14:27, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - As the runner-up in the 2024 Indonesia Masters Super 100 I, she and Miyu Takahashi have finished on the podium of a BWF World Tour tournament passing WP:NBADMINTON. DCsansei (talk) 20:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 09:01, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. NBAD is subordinate to the higher requirements of NSPORT, including SPORTCRIT, which demands an IRS SIGCOV source be cited in the article. Routine event recaps don't count towards notability, and we don't have evidence of meeting SPORTCRIT through any other coverage. JoelleJay (talk) 02:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is the point of having the WP:SNG guideline if they are not given some level of deference? I agree that writing this article was likely premature but the fact remains that as of September 1, 2024, she has now passes a subject-specific notability guideline. In the spirit of ignore all rules, I don't see the point of deleting an article now when the guideline states that she now meets a level where significant coverage is likely to exist (or will very soon exist). Wikipedia is not served by deleting articles for individuals for whom "appropriate sourcing likely exists" just to recreate them. DCsansei (talk) 11:29, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miyu Takahashi

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Fails WP:BLP and WP:NBAD Stvbastian (talk) 11:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:55, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I found this which is fairly in-depth. There's also this, this, and some other routine coverage. Likely not enough to meet WP:NBASIC but I would not be surprised if there was more coverage out there. I just don't know where to look or how to read Japanese. C F A 💬 16:34, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - As the runner-up in the 2024 Indonesia Masters Super 100 I, she and Mizuki Otake have finished on the podium of a BWF World Tour tournament passing WP:NBADMINTON. DCsansei (talk) 20:37, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Being a BLP, the threshold for retention is higher. More source analysis would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 13:09, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify. NBAD is irrelevant when NSPORT itself is not met. The Hochi link does seem to cover her playing beyond the one tournament, but it is not enough to overcome the stricter SIGCOV requirements in place for high school-age athletes (which she was at the time). Draftifying might give people a bit more time to find more recent sources. The other two links identified above are pretty routine tournament recaps. JoelleJay (talk) 02:07, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is the point of having the WP:SNG guideline if they are not given some level of deference? I agree that writing this article was likely premature but the fact remains that as of September 1, 2024, she has now passes a subject-specific notability guideline. In the spirit of ignore all rules, I don't see the point of deleting an article now when the guideline states that she now meets a level where significant coverage is likely to exist (or will very soon exist). Wikipedia is not served by deleting articles for individuals for whom "appropriate sourcing likely exists" just to recreate them.

If you disagree with WP:NBAD, then think it would be better to get a consensus to change the guideline itself instead of arguing for selective circumvention. DCsansei (talk) 11:39, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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