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Architecture

Aranmula Kottaram

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Contested draft. Poorly sourced, and a WP:BEFORE search turns up little. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 21:15, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Architecture and India. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 21:15, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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St Thomas Church, Nalukody

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After doing WP:BEFORE, I cannot find any evidence of WP:SIGCOV or notability. Grahaml35 (talk) 14:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Higher Menadew

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Definitely not notable enough to be included here; only search results lead to some tourist farm cottages. In short an irrelevant place that doesn’t exactly hold any value or significance, this small farm. KrystalInfernus (talk) 18:17, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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It is an OS settlement[[1]] even if it is little more than a single farm but could be merged with Luxulyan, its parish. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Appears to be little more than a single farm with associated buildings. I can't see any signs to it. However, the farmhouse is a listed building, so it could be repurposed per WP:GEOFEAT. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect. Some maps show it with an alternative spelling "Menadue", but I couldn't find either in current Ordnance Survey data. Royal Mail postcode search finds the farm, a barn, a cottage at the farm, and "Higher Menadue" with six other properties, and https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CON/Luxulyan mentions it as one of the villages in the parish; I could also find it in gazetteers but unlikely to be enough for an article. Peter James (talk) 00:07, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure where the best redirect is, it's verifiable but gazetteers I've found show it as a farm, which would need to pass GNG, and it doesn't. SportingFlyer T·C 01:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ivan Rijavec

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Marked for notability concerns since last year. Created by a single purpose editor. Limited google news hits, 2 of them being non-independent architecture press. 1 line mentions in google books. Fails WP:ARCHITECT. LibStar (talk) 05:21, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV per the offline sources already cited in the article. A WP:BEFORE shows there are tons of sources in google books, and a basic google search yielded articles like [2], [3], etc. Google scholar also had a biographical entry in an encyclopedia of Australian Architecture which you can accesss: http://hdl.handle.net/10536/DRO/DU:30041742 Best.4meter4 (talk) 06:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please tone it down a notch. LibStar (talk) 06:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For the sake of getting along, I redacted the comment that bothered you. I thought you might prefer that instead of striking it. Best.4meter4 (talk) 08:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not bolding a vote because there's two options here, as the vote is really "not this article as it is" - it's written very promotionally and in a completely non-encyclopedic tone. I'd either delete on WP:TNT grounds explicitly allowing re-creation, or completely strip the article down to nothing if it is kept. A WP:BEFORE search shows he is likely notable. SportingFlyer T·C 08:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete in the current form and rewrite on basis of WP:TNT because WP:BEFORE clearly proves notability.--A09|(talk) 16:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TNT. Keep per reverse HEY --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC) An acceptable stub should be[reply]

Ivan Rijavec (born 1951)^[1] is a Slovenia born Australian architect. He studied at the Western Australian Institute of Technology in Perth.^[2] Rijavec was selected to be member of the team of Creative Directors for 2010 Venice Biennale of Architecture.^[3]

References

^ "Ivan RIJAVEC". Art Gallery of Western Australia. Retrieved 22 November 2024.
^ Lozanovska, Mirjana (1 January 2011). "Rijavec, Ivan". The encyclopedia of Australian architecture. Deakin University. Retrieved 22 November 2024.
^ "Creative Directors for 2010 Venice Architecture Biennale announced". Australian Design Review / News. web.archive.org. 3 February 2010.

I don't see that https://thefifthestate.com.au/articles/ivan-rijavec-in-bespoke-resi-offer-to-urban-greys-gay-greys-and-more/ or https://www.theage.com.au/national/daring-architect-eyes-acland-street-20031101-gdwnnk.html tell us anything about the architect. Reads like churnalism. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:27, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WomenArtistUpdates I stubified it with the text you provided per WP:BOLD. Would you consider changing your vote based on this change?4meter4 (talk) 05:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think people arguing for WP:TNT want the article history removed as well. LibStar (talk) 06:06, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really care about the history, to be honest. SportingFlyer T·C 08:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please remember to follow WP:Copying within Wikipedia (guideline). I provided attribution for 4meter4's copy of WomenArtistUpdates's text per WP:Copying within Wikipedia#Repairing insufficient attribution (shortcut WP:RIA). Flatscan (talk) 05:22, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Most of the delete votes have been WP:TNT and acknowledged this topic is notable. Now that the article is stubified and the objectionable material removed, I think the spirit of those concerns have been addressed. Per WP:PRESERVE policy indicates leaving article history is a preferable whenever possible. Best.4meter4 (talk) 15:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:PRESERVE is a shortcut to WP:Editing policy#Try to fix problems (permanent link), but "history" is not mentioned anywhere on that page. Flatscan (talk) 05:26, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I changed my !vote (above). Thank you 4meter4 for your bold move :) SportingFlyer LibStar I don't have strong feelings one way or the other regarding page history. (It would be interesting if someone could figure out the whole "cheese-grater" controversy, but I reckon it is a bit too local.) --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 19:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per "reverse HEY." In architecture as well as in an encyclopedia, sometimes less is more. Bearian (talk) 04:17, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Annette Jones (architect)

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An orphan article. An unremarkable career that does not meet WP:ARCHITECT. Source 1 is merely a registration database, sources 3 and 5 are primary. LibStar (talk) 05:38, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Not seeing a notification of the creator, MurielMary, who might be able to explain why they believed notability requirements were met. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:33, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, LibStar, please post an AFD notification to User:MurielMary as you should have when you listed this discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:23, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Passes criteria 4c of WP:CREATIVE and WP:SIGCOV per the source by Cox and Women in New Zealand Architecture: A Literature Review in Society of Architectural Historians, Australia and New Zealand. This latter journal highlights that Jones was specifically featured in prominent exhibitions in New Zealand women architects and was featured prominently in the November-December 1993 issue of Architecture New Zealand magazine.4meter4 (talk) 05:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep meets criteria 1 of the architect notability criteria: the person is regarded as an important figure, as evidenced by inclusion in Cox's work. MurielMary (talk) 08:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Whilst Elizabeth Cox's source goes to GNG the source on it's own isn't enough to establish notability as the rest of the sources are non-independent or non-RS. There doesn't even seem to be mention of anything she's designed, which suggests she isn't notable too. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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