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Discussion for Today

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This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_September_5


September 5

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NEW NOMINATIONS

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Category:History of college tennis in the United States

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Nominator's rationale: Delete entire tree. Only one category in each and all for one article. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:13, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Women in war in the Middle East

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Nominator's rationale: merge or reverse merge, the Middle East and West Asia are very overlapping. I have tagged both categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:45, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

17th-century lighthouses

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Nominator's rationale: merge, these are single-article isolated categories, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:51, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ancient Jewish Greek history

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Nominator's rationale: Current category name is clunky and also vague. The topic here is Hellenistic Jewish history in the classical period, while the "ancient period" is vaguer – also encompassing earlier periods. Proposed name says more with fewer words. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Power Book IV: Force characters

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Nominator's rationale: Only contains one article, which is already present in Category:Power (TV series) characters. (Oinkers42) (talk) 16:47, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ethically disputed practices

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Nominator's rationale: This, as well as all subcategories of this category beginning with "ethically disputed", should be deleted per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. The fact is that almost any practice can have a dispute as to its ethics - for example, if I have a sandwich, I can be committing the ethical sins of eating meat, GMO food, and food made by poorly-paid workers, as well as paying companies making unhealthy processed food. If I use toilet paper in the bathroom I could be doing the ethically debated practice of putting pollution in the water supply and wasting water. There's no end to it and it's wholly subjective. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:11, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Category:Ethically disputed business practices can be kept and renamed to Category:Unfair business practices instead, per its main article, which would be more accurate and eliminate the subjectivity of the current name. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:19, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Counts in the Holy Roman Empire

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Nominator's rationale: Extremely overlapping categories. If the solution is to keep "in" instead of "of" then we should merge and then rename back to preserve the history. See [[1]] for a discussion about the merits of renaming the original versus the creation of a duplicate. Mason (talk) 13:48, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Mclay1's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:17, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Choess's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:22, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:WikiProject Shaktism

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Nominator's rationale: Defunct task force; category only contains an articles subcat. – Fayenatic London 08:14, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: After this discussion was started, the category was renamed to Category:Shaktism task force and de-tagged by JJMC89 bot III. I will re-tag the category.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:19, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:The Thundermans

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Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Need at least half a dozen members for a category or template to be useful, which is not the case here. Created by an overzealous user. Amaury • 08:46, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Amaury WP:SMALLCAT is not longer a policy. Mason (talk) 13:52, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seems like such a silly decision to no longer make it so, but at this point, it is what it is since it's already happened. It doesn't seem like it was replaced with anything else or like an equivalent guideline/policy exists, that I can find. So, can anyone just make any category or template under the sun now? Genuine question. Amaury • 17:40, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - WP:OC still has plenty of limits on what categories should be made; the depreciation of WP:SMALLCAT just means that the fact that a category can only have a small number of things in it is no longer an exclusionary rationale in itself. Alphius (talk) 04:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Then I guess WP:NARROWCAT would be the next best one to file this under. Getting rid of SMALLCAT as a guideline/policy was still a poor decision, in my opinion. Amaury • 17:46, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:27, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:14, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Personal care companies

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Nominator's rationale: There's a very large overlap among companies doing business in cosmetics and personal care, merging them into a single category tree would be much easier to navigate and maintain. If the proposal looks like it has a chance, I'll come back in a day to properly tag the subcategories. Done now. Paul_012 (talk) 08:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC), updated 09:55, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Comments in general would be appreciated :)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:28, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same request: Comments in general would be appreciated :)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:14, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Thraco-Macedonian mythology

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Nominator's rationale: This doesn't appear to be any different to its subcategory. I cleaned up the contents and everything ended up in there so it's otherwise empty. I can't find any evidence that the term "Thraco-Macedonian mythology" exists. No need to upmerge. Mclay1 (talk) 14:15, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Minyan mythology

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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge unnecessary category layer. The category name implies that it's for mythology of the Minyan people rather than what it actually is, which is Greek mythology relating to the Minyans. Most of the articles are in the subcategory Category:Minyans. Mclay1 (talk) 12:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note to closer: The target is nominated for renaming to Category:Mythology of Boeotia below. Mclay1 (talk) 12:39, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Greek mythology by region

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Nominator's rationale: These categories are for mythology relating to the places rather than mythology necessarily originating in those places, as the current titles imply. There are many Greek myths about places didn't originate in those places and many for which it is impossible to know where the myths originated. Some of the subcategories of Category:Greek mythology by region already follow the proposed naming convention. Mclay1 (talk) 12:29, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Paeonian mythology

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Nominator's rationale: All but one of these articles (Amydon) are for mythological Paeonian people in Greek mythology. The current name makes it sound like it's for the local mythology of the Paeonian people. Reparent to somewhere in Category:Mythological people by nationality, and the one article that doesn't fit can be purged. Mclay1 (talk) 11:26, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

People of Middle Eastern descent

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Nominator's rationale: Follow-up of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 27#Category:Middle Eastern diaspora. I have already manually merged and redirected many Middle Eastern descent categories into West Asian descent categories. Only now have I realized that their history may also need to be merged. Below is the list --Sakakami (talk) 09:40, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Manually merged
  • Comment – I understand the rationale, but I find this proposal and the previous ones that went through with very little discussion quite odd. "Middle Eastern" is a far more common term than "West Asian". Is there a reason we need to go that way instead of the reverse? If there are countries in West Asia that don't fit into the Middle East, is it necessary to group every country into a region for ancestry? Mclay1 (talk) 12:43, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mclay1 – We have categories for Category:People of Central Asian descent, Category:People of East Asian descent, Category:People of South Asian descent and Category:People of Southeast Asian descent. While both Middle East and West Asia are somewhat imprecise, West Asia aligns better with the existing geographic categorization. Middle East is a political term that has changed frequently depending on political and historical contexts, whereas 'West Asia' is a more consistent geographical term. It excludes most of Egypt and the northwestern part of Turkey, while including the southern part of the Caucasus. Additionally, 'West Asia' is arguably a more neutral term; for example, see the WANA Institute in Jordan. Sakakami (talk) 13:31, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those other Asian regions are common terms, whereas "West Asia" is basically a term created to fill the gap and replace the Middle East for the reasons you mentioned. While that might make sense for geography, I'm not sure it makes sense for ancestry. I doubt many people would consider themselves to be "West Asian" as opposed to Middle Eastern. It feels like we're inventing our own classification system just for the sake of having neat subcategories rather than reflecting outside usage. Mclay1 (talk) 13:42, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Karabakh

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Nominator's rationale: The region of Karabakh has rather imprecise boundaries. Most people from Karabakh do not fall into this category, as they are already classified under more specific categories. Sakakami (talk) 07:49, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Student farms

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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one page in it, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 00:38, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Readers

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Nominator's rationale: Only one actual page in here. The other is a re-direct. The name is extremely vague. Mason (talk) 00:36, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just delete, the only article is simply about a book and it is already in Category:Historical linguistics books. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:09, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge. I'm okay sometimes with overly specific categories whose cat name is overly broad, but this cat has got to be some kind of record. please merge!! in other words, please put a redirect there!! because if there is no redirect, then in the future anyone else could take this rather innocuous English word, and pin it on some other category with an either a) strangely obscure scope, or else b) some oddly colloquial usage of this word, out of all of its varied and multiple possible meanings! Sm8900 (talk) 13:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:History of medical education

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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. This category is underpopulated and neither of the pages are really about the history of medical education. Mason (talk) 00:35, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Environmental organizations by region

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Nominator's rationale: This category only contains one page, but the name implies that it should be a container for specific regions. Mason (talk) 00:24, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Electronic waste in Nigeria

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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. These categories only has one page in it, which isn't helpful for navigation. The only page in Electronic waste in Ghana is already in Electronic waste in Africa Mason (talk) 00:21, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Forestry researchers

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Nominator's rationale: I think we should merge these two categories; they're highly overlapping. Mason (talk) 00:14, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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