User talk:Yakudza

Haydamaky

Nice photo of Haydamaky. I discovered the group through the WP article. Most excellent! —Michael Z. 2006-09-19 05:11 Z

KosivArt.com

If the anon wants to tell us about Kosiv, the best way is by adding content to the Kosiv article, not simply adding a link to his/her website on multiple pages. That is seen as using Wikipedia as a platform to promote a website (on the anon's part). Khoi khoi 03:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But this page tells about city Kosiv, and I suppose that can be of interest for readers Wikipedia, WP:FAITH. This the largest in internet site on histories and culture Hutsulschyna, I do not think that this spam, anyway in article Kosiv and Hutsul, see WP:EL. --Yakudza 08:54, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I guess it's alright for the Kosiv article, but essentially the anon is using Wikipedia as a means to promote his/her website, while not contributing anything to the actual article. :-( Khoi khoi 06:49, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This so, but material of this site can be useful for the other editor, which can their use for expansion of the article. --Yakudza 08:46, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Харківський правопис

On a different topic, I did not find the uk:Харківський правопис article. I know you are somewhat sentimental about it and probaly have some sources. When you have time, could you please write a stub at uk-wiki so that I can translate it here? We already have Drahomanivka. --Irpen 04:41, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Я давно збирався, але то потребує певного часу бо нема джерела, на основі якого можна було б зробити статтю, а потрібно по частках відшукувати інформацію у різних джерелах. --Yakudza 07:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Нарешті зробив щось на зразок стабу, джерел трохи додав. --Yakudza (talk) 12:08, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rusiny/Lemky

Shanovnyj pane Yakudzo, chy ne pora zakinchuvaty projavy ukrajinskoho nacijonalismu na storinkach Wikipediji? Ce-vilna encyklopedija, pohliad maje buty netralnym, a ne shovinistychnym: nichoho peretvoriuvaty zminuvaty statji pro Rusyniw u koryst ukrajinskoji nacionalistychnoji propagandy y stverdzhuvaty shcho rusyniv ne isnuje. Siohodni ja zamityv zminy jaki vy zrobyly na statji Lemkos u anhlijskij wikipedii: vony javno protyvorichat pravdi: Po pershe, bilshist lemkiv zhyve na teretorii polshchi y tam bilshyst dotrymajutsia svojeji istorychnoji nazvy (Rusyny, Rusnaky...), jakshio ne virete os' sajt lemkivskoji assocjacii (http://lemko.org/) de vy zmozhete znajty pidtverdzhenja. Lemkivskyj dialect je dialektom rusynskoji movy: ce pryznano u vsiomu cyvilizovanomy sviti, krim Ukrajiny de vlada vse shche trymajetsia za svoji shovinistychni idealy. Duchnovich-rusynskyj poet: navishcho bulo steraty cej fakt, nedarma zhe vin pysav: "Ya rusyn byl jesm y budu...". Vertaju statju do netralnoho polozhenja.--Rusyn 19:37, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Перш за все, велике прохання обходитись без ображань і зайвих звинувачень. Я лише відновив ту версію, яка була узгоджена великою кількістю редакторів, і є доволі виважена і нейтральна. Ваші ж змніни нічим не підкріплені. Щодо лемків ви абсолютно неправі. Більшість з них чітко себе ідентифікує як лемки, етнографічну групу українців. Дехто з польских лемків називає себе просто лемками. Щодо лемківського діалекту, то я не зустрічав серйозних мовознавчих робіт, де б його відносили до діалекту русинської. Щодо Духновича, то я ніде не вказував його національної належності. Я додав список найвідоміших лемків з сайту http://lemko.org. І принципово не вказував національної належності. Також це є однією з традицій Вікіпедії - не наголошувати на питаннях, які можуть викликати зайві війни редагувань. Також, гадаю що вам відомо, що у 19-му столітті русинами називали всіх галицьких, буковинських і закарпатских українців. А ще століттям раніше взагалі всіх українців [1]. Ви ж намагаєтесь історичне ім'я українців - русини, подати як найменування сучасної етнічної групи. А щодо сучасності, то я вважаю, що зараз русинами потрібно вважати лише тих, хто сам себе ідетнифікує як русин. Тому, коли ви вставляєте такі [2] редагування, то це безумовна провокація. Зараз гуцули однозначно себе ідентифікують як етнографічну групу українців. І ніякого стосунку до русинів не мають. --Yakudza 20:53, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chekhov

Chekhovы grandmother was an Ukrainian. He named sometimes itself Ukrainian. [3] --Yakudza 20:38, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for your help, Yakuzda. I think Ghirla, Alex, and AndriyK have sorted this out for me now. Ghirla has explained that the word Chekhov used was khokhol, which is probably untranslatable. My problem is that I don't read Russian and am at the mercy of translations: I have one translation of Chekhov's phrase as "I am a Ukrainian" and another as "I am a Little Russian". It is slightly difficult for me to ask questions about this without making myself look rather stupid, unfortunately. I wish you a happy and a wiki new year! qp10qp 16:04, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:

Your insistence on using Russian or Ukrainian is inappropriate and non-transparent. Either comment in a way all participants can understand, or don't comment at all. - crz crztalk 20:24, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ОК. You speak of my question You or the other commentary on page participant? But me really more simply to write in russian (this is not forbidden on page of the talk participant), read on-english I can. --Yakudza 20:28, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Both. Oba. Ispol'zovat' Russkiy ili Ukrainskiy v etih diskussiyah neumestno, poskol'ku ne vse uchastiniki diskussii ponimayut. Libo ispol'zuyte Angliyskiy, libo ne commentiruyte voobsche. - crz crztalk 20:49, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

В таком случае, считайте, что это был личный e-mail Вам. Можете вытереть и не отвечать. А относительно, использования неанглийского на User talk - это довольно частая практика, я конечно стараюсь не злоупотреблять... --Yakudza 20:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Block

Per discussion[4], I've blocked you for 32 hours based upon your actions. Yanksox 05:57, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am shocked that for one single editing, which was reverting the article to a version with sources, (even though there were some controversial points) and for tagging a dubious article NPOV I was blocked for 31 hours.

It was mentioned that it was a consensus decision of administrators, however, two out of three admins, who voted for ban took an active part in the revert war on these articles and very often their editing was not supported by any discussion on the discussion pages. When I asked to explain the reason for the ban I was not given a clear answer but was rather directed to the WK rules and was not explained what rules I allegedly violated. The administrator who filed the complaint himself made unmotivated reverts in the article: Ukrainian-German collaboration during World War II, and didn’t participate in the discussion there and put his support behind a very POV version created by a confirmed vandal-sockpuppet – yarillastremenog. A person, who was asking for discussion of the article on the discussion page was banned for a long period of time and thus prevented from working towards a mutually acceptable version of the article.--Yakudza 16:32, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

З Різдвом Христовим і з Новим Роком!

Thanks for the stamp!

Srozhdestvom Kristovym! and / or Khrystos Razhdaietsia! Kevlar67 16:29, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ivasyuk photo

Please check a missing photo at Volodymyr Ivasyuk. Thanks for greetings. Same to you!--Bryndza 18:20, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I uploaded Image:Volodymyr Ivasyuk.jpg as fair use. --Yakudza 19:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I already uploaded a different one but since the original image is re-uploaded, I added a rationale and returned it to the article. The article is now too short for two photos but if anyone expands it before the OrphanBot deletes the now orphaned image I uploaded, we can add the second image as well.

As a general note, this incident illustrates well why the commons should be avoided as I outlined here. --Irpen 20:47, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for rationale and correct licensing for this image. At present I busy for large expands this article in English. --Yakudza 21:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Abuse of Unsourced photo tag and other vandalism

You tagged at least 2 images with sources specified as having no source, as well you deleted entire contributions by me, which can only be considered vandalism, hopefully you will be reported and banned if you keep it up --Yarillastremenog 22:50, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop personal attacks. You have added images without the sources, I have pointed to this. --Yakudza 00:33, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD

Hi Yakudza, this is a message I'm posting to everyone who participated in this AfD. I have nominated the same article for deletion again here – you might be interested. Regards, K issL 09:03, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject Ukraine

I thought you would be interested in joining the Ukrainian Wikiproject. Feel free to join. --Boguslav 04:32, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rusyns

Rusyny to jest, no dannye tochno sfalcificirovany: shtob tebja zapisali Rusinom, nado bylo jeshio nastajevaty i iti prava kachat... Znaju, sam byl v takoj situacii... Da i ludej v rusinskych organizacyjach bolshe chem rusinov v oficalnych rezultatach... --Rusyn 17:18, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Я не был никогда в Закарпатье, поэтому знаком с ситуацией только по сообщениям в прессе, в т.ч. и на русинских сайтах. Из чего сделал вывод, что число людей, счиатющих себя русинами, читающими русинские издания или входящими в русинские организации, даже по оценкам этих организаций находится примерно на уровне данных переписи. Т.е. если кто и побоялся или по какой-то другой причине не назвал себя русином, то это не сильно повлияло на данные переписи. Во всяком случае, официальные данные всегда предпочтительнее всяких соцопросов, в последних ответ зачастую зависит от того, что хочет услышать вопрошающий. --Yakudza 23:00, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Мукачеве/Мукачево

Я взагалі вже стомився з цим Мукачеве/Мукачево. Однак ще хочу це сказати. Форма родового відмінка назви міста - Мукачева (напр. ЗОШ №3 м. Мукачева). Від Мукачеве Род.в. був би (кого? чого?) Мукачевого (що дуже рідко вживається і є невірним). Іще я не думаю що веб-сторінка ВР може служити аргументом у цьому питанні, адже на одній її сторінці вживається як Мукачеве, так і Мукачево. --Seregelly ^talk 06:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Там подібні речі зустрічаються часто. Наскльки я розумію, це відбувається через певну стихійність формування тієї сторінки. Назви населених пунктів беруться з офіційних даних, а всі інші дані передаються місцевими органами. Через те й така плутанина. Аналогічно з містом Яремча [5], але воно було офіційно перейменовано, про що є відповідна постанова ВР. [6] Так само і з рідним селом Івана Франка Нагуєвичі. Його у всіх місцевих документах і пресі називають саме так, а от офіційна назва Івана-Франка, і судячи зі всього перейменування не було. А на сайті ще більша плутанина [7], [8]. Загалом, ми коли готували дані з цього сайту до перенесення у Вікіпедію, то помилок там знайшли доволі багато.

Щодо Мукачеве/Мукачево я також не зміг знайти даних що таке перейменування відбулось [9], у сучасному словнику - також Мукачеве [10], сучасної карти українською під рукою нема але думаю, що там також Мукачеве. Загалом, якщо потрібно, то карту нескладно буде знайти. Щодо відмінювання, то це трохи окрема і більш довга тема (але у словнику саме Мукачевого). --Yakudza 08:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Holodomor

Дякую. Я це не замітив. Bandurist (talk) 11:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In all honesty why are you deleting that image? Per WP:COMMONSENSE you have a 1921 famine image, that is used to misrepresent the 1933 famine deliberately due to the grotesque character of that image. The sources that give use the image are deemed reliable. There is no question of its origin. So what's your problem. Its like saying we have a source for 2, we have a source for another 2, we have a also a source for 4, but that does not mean that 2+2=4 because we have no source for a + and a =. Please consult WP:IDONTLIKEIT if in question. --Kuban Cossack 08:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Я отвечу по-русски, но если будет надобность или вас не удовлетворит ответ сделаю резюме по-английски. Ваше изображение и подпись к нему удалаял не только я, а еще двое википедистов, а Bandurist также за это. Прежде всего, для того, чтобы размещать подобный комментарий должны быть авторитетные источники (публикации в академических изданиях), в которых бы утверждалось, что размещение фотографии Голода Поволжья в каких-либо публикациях или сайтах в качестве фотографии Голодомора является фактом фальсификации истории. То что это фальсификация есть ваш собственный вывод, а следовательно оригинальное исследование. А сам факт ошибочного размещения фото на различных сайтах и форумах, не значим для этой статьи. --Yakudza (talk) 12:05, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ошибочное? Это фотография одна из наиболее распостроненных о Голодоморе. Несмотря на то, что сам факт о ее первоисточнике уже известен многие Украинские и международные публикации, особенно те которые носят не научный а политический характер настойчего пользуються этой фотографией. Например выставка в Украинском Доме о Голодоморе [11]. Случайно ли это или нет? Ну раз организаторы и специалисты знали о неправоте этой фотографии зачем ее было вешать там как будто это Харьковское кладбище в 1933-м году? Может потому, что они не такие уж и специалисты. Но тогда и все остальные публикации и источники которые содержат эту фотографию можно признать лживыми по этой критерии? Или все таки кому-то выгодно было повесеть фотографию рассчитавая, что многие не заметят? Опять же из-за отсутствия источника для плюса, два + два все равно будет равно четырем. --Kuban Cossack 12:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Есть только факт, что некоторая фотография долгое время кочевала по различным форумам и блогам, а потом с них была перенесена в Википедию и на выставку фотографий. Значим ли этот факт для статьи Holodomor? Ни ваша, ни моя оценка истории появления этой фотографии в интернете не имеет ровным счетом никакого значения, для Википедии. Также как и наше гадание, знали ли организаторы выставки, о ее происхождении или нет. Важно, чтобы она была подобным образом квалифицирована (как пример фальсификации) в авторитетных источниках. Ничего этого нет, есть лишь собственный вывод на основе сравнения двух первичных источников. А такие выводы категорически заперещены правилами Википедии. Кстати, я согласен с вами, что "они не такие уж и специалисты" и что источники в которых это фото используется не следует принимать во внимание, как не авторитетные. В серйозной публикации по истории довольно тщательно проверяют источники иллюстраций, а если какая-то газета напечатала статью и снабдила ее иллюстрациями из интернета, то грош ей цена как источнику для Википедии. Ошибку в Википедии следует исправить, что я уже сделал в описании этой фотографии. Я просмотрел другие фотографии в статье Holodomor в них вполне авторитетный источник "Государственный архив Украины", в коммонз есть одна или две сомнительные фотографии, я думаю их следует удалить, чтобы Википедия не продолжала быть источником ошибок. --Yakudza (talk) 13:20, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ну почему это? У этой фотографии есть своя история, она появилась впервые еще сразу после голодомора в 35-м году, среди Украинской диаспоры. Сам факт, что публикации которые несут ее носят явно политический аспект, а к секции о политизация голодомора она очень вписываеться. Зато теперь есть точный критерий по которому судить надежный ли источник или нет. Удалять с коммонс ее не надо, она для статьи про Голод 21-го года нужна. Кстати эта фотография ни одна например т.н. якобы убитые УПА Польские дети с колючий проволкой, тоже имеет иной первоисточник, но на нее основе уже есть памятники в Польше жертвам УПА. Также фотография Слона в на закате в озере вызвала ажиотаж как Лохнесовский монстр. --Kuban Cossack 13:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Да историю с колючей проволокой я помню, на ней сильно прокололись ряд на первый взгляд разумных участников... А все из-за того, что поверили фотографии взятой из какой-то совершенно "левой" книги одного польского ультранационалиста. В истории с этой, и еще несколькими фотографиями я полагаю, произошла обычная ошибка. На одном из сайтов, посвященных филателии, было детально описано, как удалось избежать одной еще большей ошибки. В 90-е годы был запланирован выпуск марки к годовщине Голодомора, на которой планировалось изобразить фрагмент другой фотографии голода в Поволжье, и только вмешательство активистов украинской диаспоры, предотвратило выпуск такой марки. --Yakudza (talk) 16:41, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Блокування Bulka UA

Шановний пане. Поза тим, що мене нібито було розблоковано в укрвікі я залишаюся заблокованим. Прошу пояснити причину такого явища. --Bulka UA

Thank you very much!

Thank you for your hard work in general and fixing Illicium in specific. I was about to ask someone for help, but you'd already fixed the main problem. I'm quite relieved!

--Geekdiva (talk) 18:48, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

uk:Бєлгород

What are the reasons that you redirected the article about Білгород to Бєлгород? Why not Бєлґород? Where did you even see word "Бєлгород"? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 16:29, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Your edits to Yevhen Deidei

Could you please explain these edits? In what sense is there "conflicting information in the sources?" Both [12] and [13] seem to clearly state that he died under unclear circumstances, just as our article says, and none of our other sources contradict that. -Elmer Clark (talk) 04:33, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Elmer Clark, Some sources claim that the information about the death is incorrect. There is no official confirmation, it is believed that he crossed the border illegally. [14] [15] --Yakudza (talk) 14:20, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for explaining further, but this still isn't the right course of action. Please see my follow-up comment at Talk:Yevhen Deidei#Alleged death. -Elmer Clark (talk) 19:00, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Блокування

Вітаю. Зроблене Вами блокування було неправомірним. У мене склалося враження, що ви зробили це на прохання goo3, бо якби він мене заблокував, це було би грубим порушенням правил. Ви написали, що радилися з кількома адміністраторами у чаті. Хто це був, ви можете назвати? Було б добре почути й їхню думку. Я вважаю, що у моїх діях не було ніяких порушень, у згаданого Вами bodiadub-а я не маю жодного відношення, як і до його контори. Виходом із цієї ситуації я вважаю моє розблокування. Я буду домагатися справедливості, щоб не сталося. Якщо у вас є будь-які питання до мене, ви можете їх задати, можна й листом. Дякую Пушинко (talk) 16:45, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Вас було заблоковано, в першу чергу, за переслідування користувача Goo3. --Yakudza (talk) 17:13, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CSD G5

Hello, Yakudza,

Please do not tag a page for CSD G5 speedy deletion unless the page creator is a CONFIRMED sockpuppet of a block evading editor AND there are not contributions to the article by other editors. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:12, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK. --Yakudza (talk) 08:01, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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