User talk:Xeltran/Archive 1

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Image:Bacolod-Silay City International Airport.jpg

Why do you believe that the image is free? J Milburn (talk) 10:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

If you don't reply, the image is probably going to end up deleted... J Milburn (talk) 10:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Same as this one :) Image:Iloilo Airport Exterior.jpg. Xeltran (talk) 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Could you please provide a link on the image pages to where the user has allowed free use of the images? J Milburn (talk) 16:12, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Still no explanation on the image page for Image:Bacolod-Silay City International Airport.jpg as to why it is free. J Milburn (talk) 16:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

It seems like the source link I gave wasn't right, and it turns out the image is fully copyrighted. I've already orphaned it, it's free to be deleted. Xeltran (talk) 08:49, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Bacolod-Silay City International Airport.jpg

An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:Bacolod-Silay City International Airport.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images because its copyright status is disputed. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the image description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. J Milburn (talk) 17:32, 13 June 2008 (UTC) --J Milburn (talk) 17:32, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

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Protecting pages

You can't protect an article just by adding a template like that. Only adminstrators can protect pages. I do not think the page needs to be protected, but ifyou would like the page protected, you can make a request at WP:RFPP. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 05:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Reply at User_talk:J.delanoy#Re: Protecting pages. Xeltran (talk) 05:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

2020 Olympics

Excuse me, but by some chance were you calling my edits at 2020 Olympics vandalism? I'm only asking since you put that page protection notice on it immediately after my edits. Unschool (talk) 05:51, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Reply at User_talk:Unschool#Re:2020_Olympics. Xeltran (talk) 05:57, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, adding content without citing a reliable source is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources, please take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. J.T Pearson (talk) 13:39, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Certain information you added appeared to be unreferenced. Though I did not revert your edit itself, I have left this message to notify you that uncited information is often discarded. As for the article itself, I no longer have a record of it, as I did not edit the article. However, the article you edited is found here: [1]. As you removed the templates from the infobox, you appeared to be attempting to pass the information off as correct. J.T Pearson (talk) 14:02, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Its a pleasure. Keep up the good work on the Olympics related articles. You're doing a great job. J.T Pearson (talk)

Your recent edits

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E1b1b

Hi! I can't help being fascinated by how fast you picked up my experiment and commented here. Sorry 'bout that, but I actually wondered if moving the experiment (to do with referencing, which I still getting used to despite being a long time Wikipedia editor) to the real article might fix the problem. How and why did you react like that? I am mainly just curious.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 19:06, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Reply at User_talk:Andrew_Lancaster#Re:Re:E1b1b. Xeltran (talk) 11:58, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (File:SJS-LS50 Logo.gif)

You've uploaded File:SJS-LS50 Logo.gif, and indicated that it's used under Wikipedia's rules for non-free images. However, it's not presently used in any articles. Wikipedia policy requires that non-free images be either used or deleted, so if this image isn't used in an article in the next week, it will be deleted.

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About Philippine information box

Hello there, the Philippines do not drive in the right side. Your statement are clearly coming from your own personal point of view. Everybody knows the Philippines drives from the left side. Like the United States. Thank you. AlvarezQz, 11:30 January 22, 2009 (UTC)

I replied at the user's talk page. And oh, the US drives on the right. LOL. Xeltran (talk) 04:22, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the semi-detection

Thanks. Gintong Liwanag Ng Araw (talk) 07:14, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Yours, Mine and Ours (Philippine Remake)

Hi. I put the the {{afd}} on this article which you nominated for deletion. I figured you forgot. In case you don't know, please read WP:AFD on the steps required to list an article for deletion. Cheers! -Lilac Soul ^{(talk • contribs • count) • I'm watching this page so just reply to me right here!} 15:56, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Ooh, thanks for that one. I'm using Twinkle, so I dunno why it didn't automatically place {{afd}} on the article. Thanks again. :) Xeltran (talk) 15:58, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I use Twinkle too, and it works 98 % of the time :-P -Lilac Soul ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 16:02, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

redirect for deletion

On redirects like the one you nominated, when they redirect into the user space, you can just tag them with CSD#R2. It's under the CSD tab in twinkle, and way at the bottom. Keep up the good work! --Terrillja _talk 15:31, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey, thanks. Haven't seen that before. I'll keep that in mind. :) Xeltran (talk) 15:35, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

San Beda College

While I applaud your efforts in removing non-notable entries from the list, I noticed that some of the people you removed as being "non-notable" are in fact notable enough to already have their own Wikipedia articles. I've reverted your edits and will go through the list, removing those without articles. We need to leave (and provide wikilinks for) those who have articles, but remove those who do not appear to meet Wikipedia's standards of notability. 152.16.16.75 (talk) 00:46, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, it'll be a lot easier for all editors. Merry Christmas! :) Xeltran (talk) 01:58, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your understanding and patience while I worked on the list. I've trimmed it greatly but ended up leaving quite a few redlinks. When I couldn't find an article for someone, if the accompanying text indicated they meet Wikipedia's standards of notability then they were left in the list but with a redlink. For example, some of the athletes listed as Olympians didn't have articles, but the fact that they were Olympians means they meet the standard for WP:ATHLETE. In those cases, I left redlinks to hopefully prompt others to write articles about them. In many cases I was able to find articles for people whose names were slightly different from what was originally listed (leaving out the middle initial or nickname). I was able to tighten the lists considerably but there are still a lot of names there. You might want to look over the lists and see if you agree with my edits. I may have removed some from the list due to lack of information, but if you know they do meet Wikipedia's standards for notability then please feel free to add them back. Happy editing! 152.16.16.75 (talk) 10:50, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

License tagging for File:DLSP Seal.png

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Why thank you, Mr. Bot. :) Silly me for forgetting. I already placed a relevant licensing tag. Xeltran (talk) 15:20, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Philippine WikiCon

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Dagupan

Your reversion of Dagupan to a version from a year ago undid a great deal of good copy editing, tagging and other useful work. Please be more discriminating in future. --Stfg (talk) 20:30, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

U MUST change the date to 1960s (b4 Marcos was elected) because it was prosperity then and Pinas was even richer than Taiwan...I know coz I've been around...and NOT 1980s, if u don't want the derogatory but realistic of Marcos and the current status of Pinas today. Thank U! Fbookee (talk) 08:13, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

If you believe it to be so, then feel free to supply a reference or citation supporting your claim. Otherwise, your added content might be construed as POV-pushing or original research. You can read WP:NPOV, WP:OR, and WP:Citing sources for more info. Xeltran (talk) 10:40, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

I CAN'T provide old newspapers from 1960s but I can ATTEST to it. Even though U may have proofs of the so-called robust economy that Marcos claims in the 1980s then such could be inflated and NOT the real figures so that 1960s is SOLID in order to NOT mislead readers.

Please DON'T employ Pinoy Pride or crab mentality in arguing about this point because it is NOT my goal to besmirch Marcos (even though I'm pondering that U cud be on his side?, as I stand corrected). It is NOT that you've been a contributor here at Wiki for 5yrs+..it's NOW how long but how well...coz I've been reading Wiki since early 2000s (FYI, I had my first PC since 1990, my first cellphone in 1989 even though I'm not tech-savvy, I've been tech-equipped presumably longer than U as I've been in the US since 1980).

However I rest my case if this small detail of correction will be an issue...then forget it. It annoys me to think that some antagonist old-school pinoy like U (based on old and colonial-mentality attitude who is based in Pinas) could hinder information on the web. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbookee (talk • contribs) 18:32, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

I was merely pointing out the obvious: if you can't provide your sources, then it will be removed, especially for seemingly made-up dates with no citations as to where these were sourced from. Remember, you are not the only one who is reading or will be reading the article; the whole internet will. Imagine if someone will ask you from Europe where did you get those figures. Will you just say, "Hey, I was there at the time so you should believe me!" That's a very absurd situation indeed.

You started the talk about a robust economy, bloated figures, or anything about Marcos. In fact, I don't really care about all of that. This is Wikipedia, and we have certain rules to follow:

All added content must be verifiable (WP:VERIFY)

Sources must accompany added content (WP:Citing sources)

We should avoid original research (WP:OR)

And please, no personal attacks (WP:NPA)

FYI, no one cares if you've lived longer than I do. ;) Happy editing! Xeltran (talk) 09:03, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

The following was your edit in my userpage:

I'm sooo very busy to even read and comprehend the rules.

U gotta seek consensus as to HOW to address unverified reports just like mine (the 1960s issue) since U very well know that it's almost impossible to find an old newspaper at that time especially Pinas that doesn't save even the old films before. Maybe U can try to go out of your way and research the libraries there since that's where U are.

At least I can ASSURE U that that small 1960s issue is verifiable from me, so U can site my name and IP.

U must also consider that YES, if I'm older than U then that means I am MORE informed since ::::I've witnessed it myself...vis-a-vis the Bible, NOBODY can verify such events and stories, got my drift?

And, my reply below:

If you're busy to read and comprehend the rules, then don't start adding content without understanding Wikipedia policy. That's not a very good excuse in the first place.

Did you know that articles like the History of the Philippines can find sources for events which have happened way way before the 1960s? That's the problem, you say it's verifiable, but it isn't for everybody else. That's why every possible contentious claim must be backed by a source.

Maybe no one can time travel (yet) and go back to the events that have happened according to the Bible, but hey, as you can see, that article has sources. Xeltran (talk) 19:45, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism

Per WP:Vandalism, changes such as this are not vandalism. POV pushing maybe, but not vandalism. There are very legitimate reasons for reverting that edit, but it weakens your argument if you misuse wikipedia terminology, even if by accident. This isn't a warning or anything, just a friendly message! Cheers, CMD (talk) 14:52, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that...well appreciated. Xeltran (talk) 18:46, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Koreans in the Philippines

That statement was in the article for years before 112.205.78.222 came along and removed it without comment. I presume it was verified by the original link at the end of the sentence. Certainly that link is now dead and seems to be unrecoverable from the Internet Archive. And it is my fault I didn't notice it was dead before, but it is quite trivial to find replacement citations, which you should certainly do before accusing me of inserting "POV". It is not in the slightest bit controversial to say that goods and services are rather expensive in South Korea, including the cost of teaching and apartments. 61.18.190.15 (talk) 18:14, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

For the record, I typed, "possibly POV..." because I could not trace where the statement was derived from. And no, I wasn't tagging the price issue; it was for the reason why they'd come to the country in the first place...although I think placing a citation needed tag would have been a better alternative. Since there was no citation, I opted for the non-descriptive version, just to make it neutral in case someone stumbles over the page and raises his/her eyebrow. Yes, there's nothing controversial about price differences between countries but this is Wikipedia afterall: everybody wants a source/citation/reference for almost everything that isn't neutral or what s/he perceives to be possibly one-sided POV. Xeltran (talk) 18:43, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Bangsamoro

An article that you have been involved in editing, Bangsamoro, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. ΔΦΣ (talk) 01:17, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	This is the award for reverting of vandalism in the page Cagayan de Oro. Excellent defender! JonasEncyclopedia (talk) 04:12, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Editing of the article Imus

Sir good day, thanks for reminding me of WP:MOSPHIL, just a comment, I think MOSPHIL is only for naming the title of the articles, not for the contents of the article itself (like my proposal here, please support also since Mabalacat City is just a newly created city, thanks! Another comment, in regards for your last edit, the word "officially designated" is for the word capital, not for the word city, because you transferred the word officially designated to the next sentence. Because even today, MANY residents of Imus, almost 50% more, are still confused about the real capital of the province of Cavite, what they know is, the capital of the province is still Trece Martires. Sorry for my imperfect English. Thanks again. 17:07, 24 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimboy085 (talk • contribs)

Regarding the inclusion of "city" in the city names, I think it would be better if we keep it consistent. Placing "city" after every Philippine city name can get quite complicated. Thanks for informing me about the designated capital of Cavite! Seems like there is a de jure and de facto one. :) Xeltran (talk) 15:04, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Notable people of Cabuyao

On my latest edition about Notable people of Cabuyao, why there's no need to place where in Cabuyao (not Calamba) they were from? Whatever the reason is, why don't you do the same thing in the article of Cavite? Particularly in Notable people section. Thanks! 06:41, 30 July 2012 (UTC) -Othanwiki2009 (talk • contribs)

The article is already about Cabuyao. You wouldn't think the people listed there would come from anywhere else, would you? It is generally frowned upon to use the argument that other stuff exists to justify something (e.g. this article is like this so the other one should be like that as well, etc.). Xeltran (talk) 06:50, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I just want to indicate where particularly in Cabuyao they came from. Anyway, If that so, I wish all the articles will also be in the same format (e.g. Cavite, Pampanga) for consistency. Thanks! -06:41, 31 July 2012 (UTC) -Othanwiki2009 (talk • contribs)

No problem! The Cabuyao article was a good place to start. We can then move on to the other articles eventually. Xeltran (talk) 06:40, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Gettting Wikimedians to the Olympic Games

Hi. I am part of an effort to get Wikimedians access to the 2016 Summer Olympics as accredited reporters and photographers. Part of this effort includes covering the 2012 Summer Paralympics. Two Wikimedians have credentials to attend these games as reporters through Wikimedia Australia. As English Wikipedia does not allow original reporting, this is largely through Wikinews with a project page found at Wikinews:Paralympic Games. If you are interested in helping to get Wikimedians to the next Summer Olympics,I'd encourage you to assist with Wikinews efforts, and also to work on all language 2012 Summer Paralympic Wikipedia articles before, during and after the Games to demonstrate a track record of success. Thank you. --LauraHale (talk) 03:05, 17 August 2012 (UTC)