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Accept in your RfB nomination

You already have my support... Would you kindly accept your nomination (formally) in the section just below your self nomination statement? All the best and happy editing... Volten001 16:19, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Wugapodes

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username Steve Quinn, and I thank you for your contributions.

I wanted to let you know, however, that I've proposed an article that you started, Linguistic island, for deletion because it meets one or more of our deletion criteria, and I don't think that it is suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. The particular issue can be found in the notice that is now visible at the top of the article.

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Steve Quinn (talk) 04:44, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Steve Quinn, it seems the prod has already been contested. You may want to review recent scholarship on the topic including Moric 2021 and Liu, et al 2021 which both use the term in their titles but with different meanings (both listed on the disambiguation page). Wug·a·po·des 04:54, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
OK thanks. My mistake. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 05:01, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Just to clarify, in advance, and just in case.

I really, really despise wikipolitics at times. I find myself here only because of wikipolitics. That's not your doing. But, I feel it necessary to post here anyway. I just opposed your RfB. My grounds for doing so are sincere, and are not connected to anything else. I was considering Lee's RfB after I posted my oppose to yours. Not finding anything objectionable in the nominations, I moved onto my next thoughts on evaluating Lee's RfB; does the candidate contribute to RfA and related discussions? To do this, I looked at this (takes time to load; looking at last 5000 edits in Wikipedia_talk) and searched for "requests for adminship" which tells me he's made 58 edits to such topics.

I then realized that I hadn't done that for you. So, I looked at the same list for you, and the first thing I see is Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Tamzin/Bureaucrat chat, which took me to Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Tamzin/Bureaucrat_chat#Comment_from_Wugapodes, where I am mentioned by you a number of times in your comments. You didn't state anything negative or positive about me, but given the whole situation at that RfA, I am presently highly concerned that you might construe my opposition at your RfB as somehow connected to that RfA. For the record; my opposition at your RfB is in no way at all connected to that RfA.

I hate having to be here to explain myself. It shouldn't be necessary. For all I know, I'm making matters worse (yet again) by even posting. I hope I'm not, and I hope you will take what I've said both here and at your RfB at face value. --Hammersoft (talk) 00:51, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

@Hammersoft I did view it as sincere, and I appreciate your thoughtfulness and consideration of how I may feel. I anticipated that my view could be controversial, so I saw your comment as just part of the community discussion I imagined could result. I'm glad you felt comfortable enough to push back and think critically about the arguments, and I certainly don't doubt your sincerity. Thanks for your comments there and here. Wug·a·po·des 01:14, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

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Question about a stray category following a merge

I have a question about an odd thing that I have not seen before. Do you know why Johann Nepomuk Berger (chess player) appears in Category:Chess players? Normally that happens when a category is added to or left on a redirect page, and in certain cases that's desirable. Here the redirect page should not be in the category but I don't know how to get it out since I have no idea why it's there. Asking because page history says you performed a merge, and that's when it popped up in the category. Quale (talk) 03:43, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

@Quale: Should be fixed. When performing the history merge, there was a brief period when a 2007 revision was the live page and it contained Category:Chess players. This added the page to the category. When the histories were merged, the categories never got updated (see FAQ). I performed a null edit on the redirect which forced a category update and removed it from the category page. Hope that helps and thanks for pointing this out! Wug·a·po·des 04:37, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks much. I wondered if a null edit would help in this situation but I'm always hesitant to do them on rename type redirects because they can make it impossible for a regular non-admin user to undo the rename by renaming the page back. This "redirect poisoning" is obnoxious behavior done deliberately by many editors to try to get their way in page naming dispute. That's not really an issue here, but I was thinking about it. Quale (talk) 13:39, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

@Quale: No worries, you can actually perform a null edit by changing nothing. Hit "edit" and then "publish changes" and the cache refreshes but no edit gets saved. Best of both worlds. Wug·a·po·des 15:33, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, that's very useful info. I've been around for a while, but somehow I didn't know that. Quale (talk) 21:34, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

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Question from 7forward on Draft:Jessica Matten (18:13, 12 June 2022)

Hi there, I am having trouble publishing my wiki page and making it go live. May you help? --7forward (talk) 18:14, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi 7forward, thanks for your contribution! There were some problems in your wikicode that I fixed for you. As a helpful tip, the code is {{subst:submit}}, and the "nowiki" tags are only used to prevent the template from actually being used when we just want to mention it. You can read more at WP:SUBST and WP:NOWIKI if you're interested. Wug·a·po·des 17:32, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jessica Matten (June 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Gusfriend was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Gusfriend (talk) 11:52, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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Hello, Wugapodes! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Gusfriend (talk) 11:52, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi Gusfriend I submitted this on behalf of 7forward who was having some technical difficulties (see discussion above). Sorry for messing with your workflow. I've just pinged 7forward, but you might want to leave these messages on their talk page as well. Wug·a·po·des 21:53, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Regarding your thoughts on RfXs

I agree with many of the issues you have raised during your RfB nom. If you ever decide to write up some new proposals or some sort of campaign (can't find a good word for that) to implement previous reform consensus I'd be happy to help, so feel free to ping if such is the case in the future. In any case, good luck with the rest of your RfB :) — Ixtal ( T / C ) Join WP:FINANCE! 17:40, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

@Ixtal I'm glad you found them interesting, and I appreciate your thoughtful consideration of them at the RfB. Personally I've had my fill of proposals for a while, so I think it's better if these conversations were led by others. Plus I've got the signpost thing and likely an arbitration case so I'm not champing at the bit to run an RfC. Wug·a·po·des 19:13, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
I wasn't expecting any proposals in the near future, but thought I'd offer my help. I hope you enjoy the rest of the week :D — Ixtal ( T / C ) Join WP:FINANCE! 20:31, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Your request for bureaucratship has closed unsuccessfully

I have closed your request for bureaucratship as unsuccessful. There were a number of concerns brought up in the oppose section, and I recommend carefully reviewing them to see if there is anything that may improve your chances in the future, should you choose to run again. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me on my user talk page or post on the bureaucrat noticeboard. Thank you for taking the time to run the gauntlet, and I hope you choose to run again in the future. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:32, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Sorry to see this, Wug. I'm glad you ran and I wish the community had chosen to crat you. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 01:11, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for closing, Nihonjoe. I've been reviewing comments as they came in, and yes there's a lot of helpful feedback in the opposition that I'll keep in mind. I appreciate the note as well. I wouldn't call the process fun, but I did enjoy reading the discussion of the points I raised. With enough time passed and personal interest, I wouldn't mind going through the process again. Wug·a·po·des 01:15, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for running, Wug :) looking forward to when the support sticks – should be much easier when you're no longer an Arb. theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (she/they) 01:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I'm sorry too. I hope that this will not affect your enjoyment of Wikipedia too much. Please take comfort in the fact that the wide majority of editors offered praise for your judgment at the discussion. Mz7 (talk) 01:20, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
@Mz7 Oh it won't affect my enjoyment, don't worry. It's disappointing, sure, but I've been told no plenty of times before. I've got enough other stuff to do that the crat bit won't be missed. I appreciate the concern though. Wug·a·po·des 01:39, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
78% is a ridiculously high level of agreement about anything and I hope you are proud of that, even if the cut-off is (ridiculously) higher. Levivich 02:02, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
I'm very happy with the support I received and appreciate so many people taking the time to give feedback. 78% is an achievement in itself, and I was only 4 supports shy of tying for most-supported unsuccessful RfB. I enjoyed thinking about, researching, and answering the questions. There were productive discussions about project governance and how to improve various parts of the encyclopedia. There are plenty of things to take pride in, and it helps to view the process itself as valuable. Lots of things went well, and the encouragement from editors in support and opposition is one aspect that made it worthwhile regardless of the outcome. Wug·a·po·des 02:37, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Template:cent/core

Thanks for this. I thought I had tried all of the combinations, but somehow my brain couldn't find the right div tag placement to satisfy all of the if statements. I can usually get it, but my brain was tired today. Sorry for having to undo your addition of the meta code; I have no objection to it, only to unbalanced tag errors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:12, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

No problem, the structure was confusing so it also took me a while once you alerted me to it. It turns out the code duplication was the real cause of this bug. Thanks for trying to fix it and for letting me know I messed up. Wug·a·po·des 21:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Question

Hey, Wugs - the little "restrictions" bar at the top of my user page (don't remember how it got there) but it failed to note the removal of a t-ban. I don't have the link where the appeal was granted. Can you please correct/update this or get a clerk to do so? Thanks in advance - Atsme 💬 📧 21:35, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Atsme, I checked the enforcement logs and MJL updated it with the successful appeal. I can't seem to find the "restrictions bar" you're talking about. Is this maybe a user script or gadget you have enabled? If so it might be using an old list of restrictions and needs updated. If not, I might need more direction on what I'm looking for since it's not jumping out at me. Wug·a·po·des 22:27, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Thx for providing that diff, Wugs. The other reference is the Arbitration enforcement log - to make sure it no longer shows as an active restriction. I meant to ask for the diff to the actual close of the appeal. (I don't know how I got that neat menu bar but it shows up on any User page I land on.) Atsme 💬 📧 22:33, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Oh, the diff of the close is this one. It sounds like the restrictions bar comes from a user script. Looked through your common.js and it seems to be provided by User:Bradv/Scripts/Superlinks. So I'd suggest talking to Bradv about how to get that updated. Hope that helps! Wug·a·po·des 22:58, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
It does, indeed. Thank you! So it was a script I added in .js - it's actually pretty handy, so good on Bradv for creating it. Enjoy the weekend! Atsme 💬 📧 23:19, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

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June songs

June songs

Thank you for improving articles in June! My song collection is especially rich, look, and the hall where I first heard DFD, Pierre Boulez and Murray Perahia. Do you find the baby deer in the meadow (last row)? - Cosima Wagner, - I quoted one of your closes there, but some of the participants seem not have read it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:16, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

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How can I create a page? --Tpsbourke (talk) 14:27, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Greenhill54321 on User:Greenhill54321/sandbox (21:37, 12 July 2022)

Hi Wugapodes, I just drafted an article that's ready for review, publishing, and then further improvements by the community, but when I submitted it for review, it said it would take 4+ months to process. Given your experience, are you able to help review so it can become available to others sooner? Please feel free to point out any errors I made when drafting. Thank you! --Greenhill54321 (talk) 21:37, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi, it seems someone else picked up this article draft for review, so my original request is no longer needed. Just wanted to let you know. Thank you, Greenhill54321 (talk) 14:55, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Marvijo (15:37, 18 July 2022)

Cómo añadir un nuevo idioma --Marvijo (talk) 15:37, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Ngozi osadebe on User:Ngozi osadebe/sandbox (12:59, 28 July 2022)

How do I place my citation well? --Ngozi osadebe (talk) 12:59, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi Ngozi osadebe, we generally prefer citations to be placed at the end of a sentence, after punctuation, and using footnotes.[1] You can read more at Help:Footnotes, and feel free to ask me any follow-up or clarifying questions you might have. Happy editing! Wug·a·po·des 03:19, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ This is an example

Arbcom

Hi Wugapodes - hope you are well. I've pinged you in my comments regarding the addition of a topic-ban to the case (added in the last few hours). I see your point in your text for the topic ban, and with regards to this "If Lugnuts wishes to help and can offer a specific plan with measurable objectives, it can be offered and evaluated in an unban request" I'd like to draw your attention to this record of work I've been doing since my article creation ban was enforced. This is work I was doing before the case started, and something I wish to continue with. I don't know how "specific" or "measurable" it is - I just work my way through articles and fix them (about 1 every other day).

If you have any further questions, please get in touch. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 11:44, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Sahnidev87 (15:10, 2 August 2022)

Hello, I would like to create a Wikipedia page about myself. How can I do this? --Sahnidev87 (talk) 15:10, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi Sahnidev87 and thanks for your interest! We strongly discourage writing about yourself because it constitutes a conflict of interest. Articles must meet our inclusion criteria which for most people is a very high bar as well. You might have more fun improving existing articles rather than starting a brand-new article. Wug·a·po·des 20:10, 2 August 2022 (UTC)