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PIA to ORD
The source says that flights were suspended March 24, 2012. If you go to the airline's main website, they are planning to resume service to ORD soon but no date has announced but we can't add it until there is a date. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 18:53, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- Oh it said 2012. My bad. Anyway, revert that. Thanks.-Connor (talk) 20:03, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- BTW, PIA is now resuming June 5. Thanks. (WorldTraveller101 | What is up? | How do I help?) 12:46, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- Source added already. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 01:39, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
- BTW, PIA is now resuming June 5. Thanks. (WorldTraveller101 | What is up? | How do I help?) 12:46, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
JFK
The stats are from 2011.......American Airlines still flew from JFK to NRT at that time (while HND was temporarily halted due to the earthquake). The airline ended service from JFK to NRT at the end of May 2012. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 00:51, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Re: Jetblue added flight HOU/BOS
You need to stop removing my edits and being an idiot. My source clearly states that JetBlue Airways will begin nonstop HOU/BOS service on July 25, 2013. If you actually took the time to look to the bottom of the page, you would have realized this. This is such a stupid thing for you to be complaining over, and you need to take the time to examine my source citations. I understand that I mistakenly forgot to cite my source, but I'm not lying to you. Please do not remove my edits; I'm not trying to fool the world; when I make an edit, I'm damn sure it's right.
- Seanharger, first of all, calm down! They have been re-added. Second of all, sign your page. I had to figure out who left the message by going to the View History page. Please sign your talk page comments. Thanks.-Connor (talk) 01:54, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
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Charles de Gaulle Airport top destinations
Hi,
Do you have a precise source for the figures you gave for CDG airport top destinations? The one you gave is just the home page of Aéroports de Paris website.
Slasher-fun (talk) 13:19, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- What? Crap! It should've taken you to the stat page. OK, let me fix that in the next few days.-Connor (talk) 20:05, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Your source that you attached is a link to the homepage of CDG airport and not to the new statistics that you claim they are the correct statistics. I know for sure that the route between Paris to Tel Aviv is over than 750,000 passengers and i know for sure that the route between Hong Kong to Paris is less than 1 million passengers. please attach the correct link or I'll be delete your edits.--Friends147 (talk) 13:37, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Could you tell me where exactly you got your new destinations list? I don't see that list on the source you give, and the list looks wrong to me (for example Montréal is missing). Slasher-fun (talk) 17:31, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- Well, the CDG-YUL gets less than 400,000 passengers for sure. It gets about 370,000 passengers. Most airlines on the Top Destinations list have either two of the largest of the largest airlines in the world (like for the CDG-DXB (Dubai) route, it only has two carriers, Air France and Emirates operating the route). However, these are in the top 10-15 for airlines in terms of size. Air Canada only flies to Americas, Europe, and Asia. Thanks. -Connor (WorldTraveller101 | What is up? | How do I help?) 23:02, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about your point with Air Canada (CDG-YUL was operated in 2012 by Air Canada, Air France and Sunwing in the summer), and I can assure you CDG-YUL gets a lot more than 370,000 passengers a year (it's more around 1,1 million actually). Anyway I still don't know what is the source for your figures. Slasher-fun (talk) 08:07, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- Sunwing ended Europe service in 2011. (WorldTraveller101 | What is up? | How do I help?) 21:59, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
- Nope (but they ended YUL-CDG Paris at the end of 2011, you're right on that particular point). But still, CDG-YUL still has about 1,1 millions of pax a year, and you still don't provide the source for your statistics. Slasher-fun (talk) 09:20, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
- These stats are dang hard to find. I'll keep looking. Thanks. Chat CenterWorldTraveller101Wikipedia Business 02:50, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- Nope (but they ended YUL-CDG Paris at the end of 2011, you're right on that particular point). But still, CDG-YUL still has about 1,1 millions of pax a year, and you still don't provide the source for your statistics. Slasher-fun (talk) 09:20, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
- Sunwing ended Europe service in 2011. (WorldTraveller101 | What is up? | How do I help?) 21:59, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about your point with Air Canada (CDG-YUL was operated in 2012 by Air Canada, Air France and Sunwing in the summer), and I can assure you CDG-YUL gets a lot more than 370,000 passengers a year (it's more around 1,1 million actually). Anyway I still don't know what is the source for your figures. Slasher-fun (talk) 08:07, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
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April 2013
Thank you for trying to keep Wikipedia free of vandalism. However, one or more edits you labeled as vandalism, such as the edit at Logan International Airport, are not considered vandalism under Wikipedia policy. Wikipedia has a stricter definition of the word "vandalism" than common usage, and mislabeling edits as vandalism can discourage newer editors. Please read Wikipedia:NOTVAND for more information on what is and is not considered vandalism. Thank you. JetBlast (talk) 20:53, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I'm Jetstreamer. Your recent edit to the page Turkish Airlines destinations appears to have added incorrect information, so I have removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. The supporting reference you provided does not back your edits up. Jetstreamer Talk 01:18, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, Jetstreamer. As I have learned at this point, the source is as you stated, unreliable. Unfortunatley with cargo, it is much harder to find a reliable source. Thank you. (WorldTraveller101 | What is up? | How do I help?) 19:02, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
The IP has the right to blank his talk page. 166.205.55.33 (talk) 16:03, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
- He does have the right to, but why? He wasn't getting block warnings or anything. However, you are right. -Connor (WorldTraveller101 | talk | contribs) 19:51, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
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Aer Lingus at MCO
If you read the source (the airport's official website), Aer Lingus is at Terminal B (eventhough Airside 1 is at Terminal A). 68.119.73.36 (talk) 06:10, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- No, it switched from Terminal B. Airside 1 is always Terminal A. Thanks. (WorldTraveller101 | What is up? | How do I help?) 14:35, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- You need to provide a source saying it switched! See http://www.orlandoairports.net/ops/airlines.htm (IT IS TERMINAL B!!!!!) 68.119.73.36 (talk) 20:32, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- That's where the baggage claim is: Terminal B. But the A or B represents departure. Airsides 1 and 2 are always part of A. Plenty of A1 AND A2 airlines have baggage claims on the other side. Thanks.(WorldTraveller101 | What is up? | How do I help?) 20:38, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Check in is also at Terminal B. Source: http://www.orlandoairports.net/ops/images/maps/wayfinding_maps.pdf and http://www.aerlingus.com/travelinformation/knowbeforeyoufly/orlandointernationalairport/#d.en.6381. However, we can put a footnote of some kind to avoid confusion. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 20:40, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Alright. Can say although check-in and baggage is in Terminal B, it departs from Airside 1, which is part of Terminal A. Thanks. Also, nice job sourcing. (WorldTraveller101 | What is up? | How do I help?) 20:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- However, other airlines is the same. AirTran Airways's check in is at Terminal B but uses Airside 1 gates and Virgin Atlantic Airways check-in is at Terminal A but uses Airside 4. All of these airline check in and gates are so confusing. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 20:46, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Alright. Can say although check-in and baggage is in Terminal B, it departs from Airside 1, which is part of Terminal A. Thanks. Also, nice job sourcing. (WorldTraveller101 | What is up? | How do I help?) 20:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Check in is also at Terminal B. Source: http://www.orlandoairports.net/ops/images/maps/wayfinding_maps.pdf and http://www.aerlingus.com/travelinformation/knowbeforeyoufly/orlandointernationalairport/#d.en.6381. However, we can put a footnote of some kind to avoid confusion. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 20:40, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- That's where the baggage claim is: Terminal B. But the A or B represents departure. Airsides 1 and 2 are always part of A. Plenty of A1 AND A2 airlines have baggage claims on the other side. Thanks.(WorldTraveller101 | What is up? | How do I help?) 20:38, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- You need to provide a source saying it switched! See http://www.orlandoairports.net/ops/airlines.htm (IT IS TERMINAL B!!!!!) 68.119.73.36 (talk) 20:32, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Made footnotes for those airlines. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 20:59, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
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800 edits only?!
Really, you joined only on 23 March 2013? I didn't know that! :O Arctic Kangaroo 11:52, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- Yes. If you look, my first edit was on 23 March 2013. And my edit count is at 892. But yes I have only been on for 1 month and 4 days. Thanks. Oops?WorldTraveller101Follow my work? 11:56, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- I'm now over 1000. Let's see when I'll reach 10000 WorldTraveller101Did I mess up? 17:21, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- Arctic, I have been editing Wikipedia since August 2012, but this is a clean start account. I've actually had six thousand five hundred edits. I'll update the information. WorldTraveller101Did I mess up? 21:47, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- I'm now over 1000. Let's see when I'll reach 10000 WorldTraveller101Did I mess up? 17:21, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
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About your RfA listing...
I have unlisted your RfA from WP:RFA due to the page Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/WorldTraveller101 not existing. Please refer to Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship for instructions on how to create an RfA nomination page. Steel1943 (talk) 02:25, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Re: I'd be Careful
Thanks for the advice, but, shrug, I'm just here to write an encyclopedia. At the end of the day, I'm really not too scared of the janitorial staff. If, in the service of trying to provide our readers more information about their world, I step in another hornets' nest: so be it. Hey, Kendrick8 isn't taken right? -- Kendrick7talk 05:01, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- A clean start isn't always a bad idea. Thanks. WorldTraveller101Did I mess up? 11:57, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Also, please reply at your talk page from now on when I leave you a message. If you left me a message, I'll reply here.
PorPor2
You messed up. :) Can you come to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/PorPor2 and provide the missing information? Amalthea 21:28, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hahahaha! I can't believe there was already one open. OK. I know that the user has almost 10 sockpuppets, including the Thaipilot and PorPor accounts and various IP addresses from Thailand and the Philippines. I hope this info helps, as I will put those users and IPs in, so those are all blocked. Thanks. WorldTraveller101Did I mess up? 21:36, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Please withdraw your threat
I see that you added this threat to User talk:Jenniepierce567. I'm asking you to remove it per WP:WIKIHOUND. This is particularly egregious behavior on your part after your sloppy vandalism report against this user, which the blocking admin later found was in error. I'm aware that you don't like this user's edits but posting a message like that after you were in the wrong isn't going to help you the next time you want to do this. Thanks, Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 16:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
- Sloppy vandalism report? What the heck are you talking about? The user has a long history of making unconstructive edits and in some cases, vandalism. Administrator Jeepday did not say that no action should've been taken, it's jus that different action would've been taken. You almost seem to be saying that the user has done nothing wrong, when this user has been warned for months about it and when I went to report her, I did not intend for a week block, rather I would've preferred a discussion (although, this user never responds to anything, so that would be kinda tough to attempt).
- The Main Point: The user needs to remember that he/she is being watched, for just because a block was warranted and lifted does not mean that they are completely off the hook. They will still be watched for anymore vandalism and unconstructive edits. That isn't to say that a repeat could warrant a 24 hour block. I will at least change the wotding to make sound as little threatening as possible. However, the user needs to remember that he/she will be continually watched, since I have zero-tolerance for vandals, trolls, and persistent unconstructive editors. Thanks. WorldTraveller101Did I mess up? 22:19, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
- I'm referring to this report. You didn't include a diff in that report, so the reader has to guess what you're talking about, but let's say that you were referring to this edit, which you responded to with this reversion. In the edit summary, you stated that "IT IS NOW CONSIDERED VANDLISM!!".
- So a couple of things:
- 1. Good faith edits are not vandalism. This is covered in the third paragraph of WP:VAND.
- 2. That edit was factually true; It took me all of 30 seconds to verify it and add a reference.
- In short, you had a user blocked for making a completely legitimate edit. The blocking administrator is not faultless here either; I already had this discussion on his talk page. And it's strange that you say that "I would have preferred a discussion" when you stated outright in your AIV request that "I will once again say that she needs to be blocked for a time between 24 and 72 hours." I'm aware that User:Jenniepierce567 has a spotty history and doesn't seem to engage in talk page discussion. I don't like that either, but this user continues to make constructive edits and I all I ask that you be a little more rigorous in your anti-vandalism efforts.
- My recommendation is that you let others watch this editor for now. This whole incident could give the impression that you're hounding. I know that you're not, and that you're just passionate about keeping things clean, but there are plenty of actual bad guys out there to keep an eye on. Regards, Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 01:15, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- The problem I see is I'm glad you advocated for the user, but it seems like she had gotten numerous warnings and no real discipline. People often don't change until real consequences are implemented, and it may or may not be this way in this case. The reason I said "I would have preferred a discussion" was after reflection and second thought about it. A few things to remember:
- That edit you referenced was indeed verifiable. However, considering her history of adding unverifiable things, it was indeed hard to anything but report the user to WP:AIV.
- It is not possible that she had been making "good faith" edits for all of those months of warnings. I'm sorry, but it is BS.
- The user never responds to talk pages and rarely adds edit summaries, so the user in other words, refuses to "talk".
- I would like to point out that perhaps the user has switched to doing more constructive edits. But either way, that does not mean he/she is completley off the hook. I will personally lay low, but others will probably be keeping an eye on her. Thanks. WorldTraveller101Did I mess up? 01:48, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- The problem I see is I'm glad you advocated for the user, but it seems like she had gotten numerous warnings and no real discipline. People often don't change until real consequences are implemented, and it may or may not be this way in this case. The reason I said "I would have preferred a discussion" was after reflection and second thought about it. A few things to remember:
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, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:47, 1 May 2013 (UTC)- I'm sorry to see you blocked again so soon, but I hope you can see that, just like your last block, this is the result of your own doing and your desire to make yourself look good. It seems my repeated advice to you to be patient was not heeded and you have been grasping for advanced permissions and trying to set yourself up as a hero who detected evildoers. If you ever want to be a positive contributor here, you need to put all thoughts of your image or reputation out of your head. Users gain a reputation by doing actual work, not by grandstanding and bragging. This is not a MMPORG and we don't just "level up" for collecting tokens or whatever. Adminship, rollback, reviewer, these are not prizes, these are responsibilities that you volunteer to take on. If you ever want to be considered a trusted contributor you need to drop the obsession with user rights and statistics and just work on building an encyclopedia, that is after all what we are all supposed to be doing here. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:04, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
When your block expires, you need to learn what is wrong with edits like these [1]. I believe you will have seen the explanation but in short, we do not gloat or boast about blocking users, blocking is a purely technical measure to prevent damage to the project and nothing at all to count - I have no idea how many users and IP addresses I've blocked, and I honestly don't care, each and every block was carefully considered to prevent vandalism, copyright infringement or unsuitable behaviour.
I would also caution you about your quest to become an administrator (which can be a shitty role, anyway, never understood people's obsession with getting the bit) - the way you're going, there's not the faintest chance the community will trust you with the tools at the moment, you're going to have to mature, and you need to understand the role of content here, you need to get out and write articles - start stubs, write DYKs, get a GA, contribute photos, anything that doesn't involve lurking about in the Wikipedia namespace or adding lists of blocked users back onto user pages. Nick (talk) 17:36, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
- This is not really my place, but as someone who is not an admin and not involved, I really think you should take note of the above advice. Please do not come back with the excuses again, just use the ban time to have a little time off and think about what others have advised you. If you come back arguing with the admins about your ban, your not going to help yourself. --JetBlast (talk) 17:54, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Nick is giving you good advice. You seem like a nice enough fellow who is letting your ambition and youth get the best of you. Keeping up with "blocks caused" and other scores isn't good. An admin's first goal is to find a way to resolve a problem without blocking if it is possible, so scorecards are the opposite of what we try to do. I think you try to jump out and get noticed, however, Wikipedia is a dangerous place to do that, as you can just as easily get noticed for the wrong things. When you come back, I wouldn't worry about CVUA and I would suggest avoiding admin areas completely, instead learning about editing, sourcing, format and the other things that really matter: Content for the reader. That is why we are all really here anyway. Learning to spot and block vandals is the easiest thing an admin does. It is pretty obvious stuff. Learning how to properly write, edit, discuss, reach consensus, compromise and just get along in a collegiate manner are the more important lessons to learn. And yes, being an admin is overrated here anyway. I waited over 5 years before seeking the bit, and there are plenty of days I wish I wasn't one. We aren't the bosses here, just the janitors. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 21:43, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
- This whole discussion is making me give second thoughts to rolls. I still want to help with ANI and AIV stuff and also make other useful, constructive contributions (quite a slump with the Sean stuff...facepalm for myself and sigh). Anyway, I would like to continue CVUA training, as this might teach me more about not hounding and being a little more laid back. And Dennis Brown, thanks for a new perspective. I am going to just wait the block out, take the hit, and move on. Thanks. WorldTraveller101Did I mess up? 22:26, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
- Also, to remind people, the CVUS training will be to be better at reversions and distinguishing GF vs Vandalism. Just an FYI. WorldTraveller101Did I mess up? 22:53, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
- Having seconds thoughts is a good thing, it is called reflection. I strongly recommend against ANI, you really need to be more experienced in policy to not get in the way there. There isn't a shortage of people commenting there, to be honest, and unless someone is very familiar with policy and mediation, it very often causes more problems than we need there. We need fewer people there, not more. Please trust me on this. Reporting vandals and learning the true meaning of WP:VANDALISM is fine, it is part of policy, but building new content is the still the most important thing you can do here. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 23:26, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
- Fair enough. WorldTraveller101Did I mess up? 00:09, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- Having seconds thoughts is a good thing, it is called reflection. I strongly recommend against ANI, you really need to be more experienced in policy to not get in the way there. There isn't a shortage of people commenting there, to be honest, and unless someone is very familiar with policy and mediation, it very often causes more problems than we need there. We need fewer people there, not more. Please trust me on this. Reporting vandals and learning the true meaning of WP:VANDALISM is fine, it is part of policy, but building new content is the still the most important thing you can do here. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 23:26, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys, I am going to say a few key points to be kept in mind:
- 1. I have seen other blocked editors be told to be mature and you know what:Why should I not do it?...Exactly! So, I will be waiting the block out.
- 1A. I have state-wide exams Monday-Wednesday, so it won't matter anyway (my block is lifted at 12:46 (EST) on 8 May (Wednesday)).
- 2. I am not excusing my own actions or faulting another party's own actions, but all of us did not do a very satisfactory job of assuming good faith. See point 2A, 2B, and 2C:
- 2A: WorldTraveller101: You should've known better than to do such an accusation. While this editor had previously personally attacked you before, that doesn't mean you should be [accidentally] vicious.
- 2B: Seanharger: I apologize for not giving you a good chance, however, personal attacks are never OK to do, no matter how frustrating or persistent the user is (could be a newcomer, could be an admin).
- 2C: Admins: The block rationale is completley appropriate and what I did ended up backfiring. However, I only intended to help Wikipedia. However, as many admins have commented already, I got sidetracked from the main purpose of Wikipedia: Creating an encyclopedia. However, remember, I am an editor who is always here to try to help.
- 3. Remember, I still believe that we are all great people and that we all (especially myself) make mistakes.
Good luck from Arctic Kangaroo and stats
Thanks guys. I hope we can all truly move on, and I will receive further CVUA training to become a better editor myself. Thanks guys. World Traveller101 01:37, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hey dude, good luck for your exams as well as your Wikipedia editing. Arctic Kangaroo 15:47, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. The state exams are just really long. Just not fun. Having had term break three weeks ago and a school trip to Washington DC (the USA capital) two weeks ago, it just isn't fun getting into exams . The block'll be lifted soon anyway. BTW, check your e-mail (because I'm blocked, I can't leave you the template.) Cheers. World Traveller101 15:49, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- You need to place
importScript('User:TheDJ/qui.js');
on User:WorldTraveller101/vector.js and follow the instructions after that. A ball will appear in the top right hand corner (below Log out), and you can update the status by placing your cursor over the ball and selecting from the dropdown menu. Cheers. Arctic Kangaroo 16:05, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- You need to place
- And...you need to have User:WorldTraveller101/Status created as well. Arctic Kangaroo 16:06, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- That script thingy is just for convenience. You can also update your status page manually if you want. Just tell me if you need any more help. Cheers. :) Arctic Kangaroo 16:08, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- Cool and thanks. I unfortunately can't update it until my block expires, so thanks for the help. Cheers. World Traveller101 16:39, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Sockpuppet tagging
You don't put tags on sockpuppet talk pages. Only on the user page. See this. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 22:18, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- My error. I didn't know, because most do have it, but this is helpful. Thanks for the info. Cheers! World Traveller101 22:23, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
May 2013
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at User talk:Seanharger, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 22:21, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- This wasn't legit. I messed up and I deleted it on his behalf, but generally, you are correct. Cheers! World Traveller101 22:24, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for trying to keep Wikipedia free of vandalism. However, one or more edits you labeled as vandalism, such as the edit at Pittsburgh International Airport, are not considered vandalism under Wikipedia policy. Wikipedia has a stricter definition of the word "vandalism" than common usage, and mislabeling edits as vandalism can discourage newer editors. Please read Wikipedia:NOTVAND for more information on what is and is not considered vandalism. Thank you. (Diff provided here) Jetstreamer Talk 23:38, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hm. Well, to the very lest it is disruptive editing. Anyway, this would not be a case of WP:BITE, for that user has had several warnings. Anyway, even if I did mislabel it as vandalism, it is for sure disruptive editing. Good luck. WT101 (Who am I?/Chatter Box Arena/Count my contribs) 23:42, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I'm JetBlast. I noticed that you made a change to an article, London Heathrow Airport, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. JetBlast (talk) 18:52, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hi, JetBlast, I completely forgot that Qantas was 'demoted' from being a focus city after two of it's four daily flights were suspended. (See [2] for more info). Sorry about that. I'll go change that for Qantas as well. Gracias. World Traveller101 18:57, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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Uncareful revert
Hi Connor,
Welcome back. You quickly reverted an edit simply stating at it didn't explain the edit. While edit summaries are helpful, they are not required. Please try to only revert edits if you have reason to believe they are incorrect. In this case, a quick check of the AA schedule would have found that they don't fly ORD-YYZ mainline, so the edit was correct. In this case, you also left a note on the anon editor's talk page admonishing him/her (politely) for the 'incorrect' edit. If you leave such a warning, please be particularly sure that you're right that the editor was in error! I suggest an apology to the IP might be in order.
Moreover, I'd like to echo many of the recent comments here. I suggest that the best way for a relative newcomer like yourself to contribute effectively to Wikipedia is to focus on the main article space, not administration, bureaucracy, and aggressively pursuing vandalism. You'll encounter plenty of bureaucracy along the way, and it will tend to be in better context for you if you encounter it organically as part of your main space edits than if you seek out the bureaucracy actively. Also, Twinkle, rollback, and the like can get one into trouble, as seems to have happened to you in a few places. Those tools can inadvertently cause one to spend less time thinking about edits, which can lead to significant mistakes. If you do continue to aggressively pursue vandalism with these tools, ensure you understand the definition of vandalism; many of your edits suggest you don't.
Lastly, a habit of removing comments from your talk page, while certainly allowed, can make it appear like you have something to hide, particularly when you selectively remove comments. I recommend being a little more conservative in how quickly you remove edits.
Happy editing! —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 23:59, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hmmm. These exams are making me a little less careful, since I'm in a less of a mood to think, but I'll do that. Also, I changed the JFK Airport cargo table to a simple airline list. I think that most airports that have a table should become a list.
Also, I archive all of the comments. So, if you see it has been deleted, then it is likely been archived. This is a more professional way to do things. Anywho, thanks for the help. Cheers! World Traveller101 00:06, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Benji Powell
A week as requested - I would have gone for an indef with that many warnings on his page. You may find he sits the week out and then starts again (I've seen it all before many times...) - whereas with an indef, here would have to talk and explain his actions to get unblocked. But only time will tell. Ronhjones (Talk) 21:25, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- I left him some constructive advice on his talk, since clearly he knows how to and is capable of making constructive edits, but he just needs to do it consistently. This silly edits and re-adding incorrect info needs to stop.
- In terms of his block, I was thinking of in-def, but considering some of his constructive edits and WP:AGF, I requested for 1 week, but if he does more disruption on his talk page or anywhere else, I could request in-def (I'm no admin, obviously, so I can't change the settings).
- I will probably be able to find it, since ironically, most of the pages he edits unconstructively, I have on my watchlist.
- My Opinion: As you said, lets start with one week, but his next block will be an indef. Thanks for the advice and good luck in the administration. World Traveller101 21:38, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Just took a second look at your comment. Pretty much, as I see it, he'll get a 4-im and anything after that is an indef block. Perhaps you are right that he will do it again, but maybe he'll take the advice seriously. Honestly, per WP:AGF and some of his better edits, I think 1 week was generous, however, despite WP:ROPE, he has very little rope left, as he has been warned for almost one year now. Thanks, Ron. World Traveller101 22:07, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
hi, I got the information from emirates routemap http://www.skycargo.com/english/about-us/our-network/routemap.aspx for copanhagen it came from ch-aviation.ch admin, its at their website too but is only available to paying members there, cannot be linked as it will not appear to non-paying viewers. 139.190.160.152 (talk) 21:37, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hmmm. It still serves it's purpose w/o the paying member thing. All we need is a route map. Thank you and please note that it is verified at this point and it was correct. Cheers. World Traveller101 21:40, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- You're welcome. 139.190.160.152 (talk) 23:04, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
- Keep it up. World Traveller101 23:05, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
- You're welcome. 139.190.160.152 (talk) 23:04, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Sockpuppetry block templates
These are generally not put. Also, block templates are for admin use only. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 21:10, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- OK sorry. No harm intended. Good luck. World Traveller101 21:43, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Incorrect Vandal Warning
Thank you for trying to keep Wikipedia free of vandalism. However, one or more edits you labeled as vandalism, such as the edit at Logan International Airport, are not considered vandalism under Wikipedia policy. Wikipedia has a stricter definition of the word "vandalism" than common usage, and mislabeling edits as vandalism can discourage newer editors. Please read Wikipedia:NOTVAND for more information on what is and is not considered vandalism. Thank you. JetBlast (talk) 22:38, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- This is another example. --JetBlast (talk) 22:42, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- Alrighty, but it is once again likely disruptive editing. Thanks. World Traveller101 22:43, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- Your new here, maybe you should gain more experience before you issue incorrect warnings? There is no evidence to suggest it is disruptive editing. Its just simple adding original research and not sourced content. --JetBlast (talk) 22:46, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- As stated, it deserved some warning, as it was a policy violation, but if you need tochange it, then jus do it. Good luck and thanks. World Traveller101 02:43, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- It doesn't work this way. You don't just label something as vandalism as a general something is wrong with it. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 02:56, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- You misunderstood. I'm sorry I mislabeled it. However, there was some violation with the edit. Thanks for the warnings though. World Traveller101 13:08, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- No, Ramaksoud2000 didn't misunderstand. You used a vandalism warning template saying that the edit didn't appear to be constructive. It is unacceptable to use that template in response to good faith edits. Instead, skip the templates and explain what about the good faith edit was incorrect if you think some comment directly to the editor is really necessary. The appropriate response to original research or uncited edits is normally simply to undo the edit or tag the content; it's only after the same editor repeatedly adds uncited information that any kind of warning is needed, in my opinion. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 22:40, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- Point being, I'll work on it. I won't be perfect, but I'll try to be as close as it gets Anyway, good luck with future edits, Alex. World Traveller101 17:52, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
- No, Ramaksoud2000 didn't misunderstand. You used a vandalism warning template saying that the edit didn't appear to be constructive. It is unacceptable to use that template in response to good faith edits. Instead, skip the templates and explain what about the good faith edit was incorrect if you think some comment directly to the editor is really necessary. The appropriate response to original research or uncited edits is normally simply to undo the edit or tag the content; it's only after the same editor repeatedly adds uncited information that any kind of warning is needed, in my opinion. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 22:40, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- You misunderstood. I'm sorry I mislabeled it. However, there was some violation with the edit. Thanks for the warnings though. World Traveller101 13:08, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- It doesn't work this way. You don't just label something as vandalism as a general something is wrong with it. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 02:56, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- As stated, it deserved some warning, as it was a policy violation, but if you need tochange it, then jus do it. Good luck and thanks. World Traveller101 02:43, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- Your new here, maybe you should gain more experience before you issue incorrect warnings? There is no evidence to suggest it is disruptive editing. Its just simple adding original research and not sourced content. --JetBlast (talk) 22:46, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- Alrighty, but it is once again likely disruptive editing. Thanks. World Traveller101 22:43, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- This is another example. --JetBlast (talk) 22:42, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Image in signature
As outlined at WP:SIG#Images, images are not allowed in signatures. Please remove the image from your signature and from any pages you have signed with it. Thanks.Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 04:51, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- I also notice that your signature no longer includes a link to your talk page. Not sure if that's deliberate, but including that link is certainly the norm and a courtesy to others. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 05:01, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- Images are verboten, but as long as his sig links to either his user or usertalk, it's ok (✉→BWilkins←✎) 09:29, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- I understand. My comment is a related recommendation, not a requirement. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 09:37, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- The talk page link is still linked. We're just on my talk page, so it can't refresh, but on other pages, it does. Also, image removed.World Traveller101 11:47, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- I understand. My comment is a related recommendation, not a requirement. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 09:37, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- Images are verboten, but as long as his sig links to either his user or usertalk, it's ok (✉→BWilkins←✎) 09:29, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Talkback
Message added 09:30, 11 May 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
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Share the Cookies
Here's a plate full of cookies to share! | |
Hi WorldTraveller101/Archive/2, here are some delicious cookies to help brighten your day! However, there are too many cookies here for one person to eat all at once, so please share these cookies with at least two other editors by copying {{subst:Sharethecookies}} to their talk pages. Enjoy! AutomaticStrikeout ! C Sign AAPT 02:15, 13 May 2013 (UTC) |
Please STOP
Hi.. WorldTraveller101.. Stop your sloppy vandalism work!!! You recently undid several constructive contributions by IP 70.247.166.76 citing it as unsourced content. I am no worldtraveller, but it took me less then 30 secs for each page, to verify the information added by IP using the sourced provided in the article already. You can consider this as final or only warning as you have been previously notified several time by different editors about you undoing constructive edits of others. Next time you repeat this, you may be indefinitely blocked (as you have already been blocked 4 times) or if possible banned from so called anti-vandalism work. Plus you issued two consecutive level1 and level2 warning to 70.247.166.76, which is again a violation of WP policies. IP 70.247.166.76 did not do any "un sourced" editing after level1 warning, so a level2 warning is unfair. Similarly your behaviour in the edit summaries is also not proper. I demand that you apologise to this IP. I know that you did not apologise to 142.240.200.7. But this time you do.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 03:40, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- Agreed. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 04:13, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hm. Alrighty then. I really don't have anything else to say. Um, I'll change things. World Traveller101 10:16, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- Decided to give him WikiLove. Hope he enjoys. However, [not that this excuses it], but without an edit summary stating the source (unless you re-add the link for the domestic top 10 route source, it rots pretty quickly), I just thought it was like that and that there was no evidence, but for me:...sigh and Anyway, apologies. World Traveller101 10:24, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- While the edit summaries are helpful and recommended, those are not mandatory. In the preset case, the editor have basically updated the statistics of a given airline. It is entirely possibly that the new editor may not be aware fully of policies. In such cases and in general while reverting vandalism it is the responsibility of the reverting editor to check the facts. Maybe I will enjoy your cookies better if you suspend your so called anti-vandal work for coupe of months and focus on content creation. You spend great deal of amount doing the work precisely other then content creations. Spreading cookies and burgers, requesting protection for your userpages even without in vandalism, and updating edit counts of your user box etcs. I hope you put same kind of efforts in the actual aim of WP i.e. content creation. You know out of 2000+ edits which you show on your userbox about 500-600 are in your own user page, read WP:ITIS. If you really hope to actually make any decent contribution to WP, I suggest you find someone to adopt you, and focus only on content creation. It is for your own good. I do not know what else to advice you. It is another immaturity of yours that now you throw a barnstar on the anon IP editor with only about 10 edits. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 13:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- I would be interested in adopting WorldTraveller101. However, you guys would have to wait for me to set up my adoption program. AutomaticStrikeout ? 01:40, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh cool thanks. I've been invited to the teahouse[which I have poorly utilised] and I'm also getting CVUA training, but extra help can only help. Thanks. World Traveller101 11:30, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- If AS can't do it, Arctic Kangaroo would be great help or additional help. Thanks. World Traveller101 11:36, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Well, I'd be glad to adopt you, but it may take me some time to get my adoption program set up. AutomaticStrikeout ? 15:41, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh cool. Thanks, AS. World Traveller101 15:42, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- No problem. I'll let you know when I'm ready for you to begin. AutomaticStrikeout ?
- Oh cool. Thanks, AS. World Traveller101 15:42, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Well, I'd be glad to adopt you, but it may take me some time to get my adoption program set up. AutomaticStrikeout ? 15:41, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- If AS can't do it, Arctic Kangaroo would be great help or additional help. Thanks. World Traveller101 11:36, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh cool thanks. I've been invited to the teahouse[which I have poorly utilised] and I'm also getting CVUA training, but extra help can only help. Thanks. World Traveller101 11:30, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- I would be interested in adopting WorldTraveller101. However, you guys would have to wait for me to set up my adoption program. AutomaticStrikeout ? 01:40, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- While the edit summaries are helpful and recommended, those are not mandatory. In the preset case, the editor have basically updated the statistics of a given airline. It is entirely possibly that the new editor may not be aware fully of policies. In such cases and in general while reverting vandalism it is the responsibility of the reverting editor to check the facts. Maybe I will enjoy your cookies better if you suspend your so called anti-vandal work for coupe of months and focus on content creation. You spend great deal of amount doing the work precisely other then content creations. Spreading cookies and burgers, requesting protection for your userpages even without in vandalism, and updating edit counts of your user box etcs. I hope you put same kind of efforts in the actual aim of WP i.e. content creation. You know out of 2000+ edits which you show on your userbox about 500-600 are in your own user page, read WP:ITIS. If you really hope to actually make any decent contribution to WP, I suggest you find someone to adopt you, and focus only on content creation. It is for your own good. I do not know what else to advice you. It is another immaturity of yours that now you throw a barnstar on the anon IP editor with only about 10 edits. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 13:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Another note on this: you're continuing to use Twinkle to revert good faith edits without an edit summary (most recently here). Per WP:TWABUSE, that is forbidden. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 00:47, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for the info, Alex. World Traveller101 00:55, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Adoption page
I have created your main adoption page at User:AutomaticStrikeout/Adopt/WorldTraveller101. You can start whenever you are ready. The program actually is not completely finished, as I still have work to do on the 9th lesson. However, I don't think it will be a problem for you to start now. Regards, AutomaticStrikeout ? 20:41, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm just wondering if you've gotten started yet. AutomaticStrikeout ? 16:16, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- I've been busy, but yes I've started looking over. Thanks for asking. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 16:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- No problem. Don't feel rushed and let me know when you are ready for the first test. AutomaticStrikeout ? 16:19, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm ready. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 20:23, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- Okie dokie. I posted the test. AutomaticStrikeout ? 02:32, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm ready. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 20:23, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- No problem. Don't feel rushed and let me know when you are ready for the first test. AutomaticStrikeout ? 16:19, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- I've been busy, but yes I've started looking over. Thanks for asking. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 16:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
I noticed your Wikibreak template just now and I'm wondering if this will affect your ability to continue with your adoption program? AutomaticStrikeout ? 02:12, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- No no no, not at all! I'll still be on almost every day. All it means is that I'm putting more time towards nl.wili. So, no. I'll still finish in a timely manner. Only full wikibreaks will affect it. Thanks for adking. Sincerely, WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 02:17, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, that's good to hear. AutomaticStrikeout ? 02:19, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- When will you be able to finish test 1? AutomaticStrikeout ? 23:29, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Is by the end of this week okay? I'm busy with school and track, so I can only do a little bit a night. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 23:36, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I suppose so. AutomaticStrikeout ? 23:38, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, I could have it done by the end of tomorrow Gracias. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 01:09, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- That would be good. AutomaticStrikeout ? 01:12, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm done. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 01:19, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- You passed! I've graded your test and left some comments for you in the now-collapsed section. I have also posted lesson two, which you may begin at any time. AutomaticStrikeout ? 02:03, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Thanks for the welcome!
JackFrost2121 (talk) 23:44, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, and welcome JackFrost 2121. Cheers. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 23:45, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Username Artwork
I noticed that whenever you sign your comments on talk pages, you signature shows color and excitement, while mine is simply blue link, how did you pimp out your name, did you use HTML or what, If I do customize mine ill probably add cool colors to go with my username. Cheers JackFrost2121 (talk) 12:35, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Go to preferences to change it. I frequently change my signature, but I'll send it to you ASAP, then change signature in Preferences, but link it so it goes to your user and talk page. Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 13:01, 18 May 2013 (UTC)- I'll send you a version of it to your talk page (I'll make it for you and you say whether or not you like it). The one thing is you may not have icons such as or in your signature. I'll have it for you in a second. Unfortunately, there is limited space for signature, just as an FYI. Thanks, Jack. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 13:13, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
You Are Awesome!
That's Awesome I never expected you to make one for me! you are awesome Thank you so much!, didn't expect Wikipedia to be so helpful JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 17:15, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- If you plan to edit constructively, cooperate with editors/come to consensus, and are always cool/never insult editor, even if they push you to the brim. I hope you enjoy and plan to stay, because clearly, you are going to be an excellent editor as far as I'm concerned Cheers. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 01:46, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
New Articles Created
Hi There! I just created two articles
If you are free could you check them out, and tell me if they will last or get deleted soon, as I am unaware of their lasting. Thanks! JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 21:03, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- I checked out both. Find more references and expand to make sure that A) it indeed does not get tagged and b) it is good to improve the rating. You are currently at Stub Class, then it goes up to Start Class, C-class, B-class, A-class, Good Article, and finally, Featured Article. They are good for a start. They will always improve. Good luck. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 21:46, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Draft
Just wanted to let you know about your draft here: User:WorldTraveller101/Martin Richard. That page already exists as a redirect at Martin Richard to the main event due to WP:1E, so your article is unlikely to survive in the mainspace if you move it. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 00:25, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Re: WP:AIV commentary
Hello! Thanks for chiming in on WP:AIV regarding the report of User:76.102.142.132. I just wanted to let you know that the little templated decision tags are generally for use by administrators making a more or less official "call" on the actionability of the report. I quite agree with the call you made, but just for propriety and clarity's sake (though you did identify yourself as a non-admin), it might be best to avoid using those templates in future. No harm done, it just might be best to avoid. As far as I know there's no hard-and-fast policy on it, it's just a matter of typical procedure. - Vianello (Talk) 15:23, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh OK cool, no harm done. Thanks for the advice/notice. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 15:25, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Article Creation
I was just stalking your talkpage, to the point where there were no barnstars at all in your 9+ months of service. There has often been cases where an editors been raging on you for hounding, and reverting work done by an IP, so I was thinking if you want to work together in creating articles? I already see that you have already attempted to do this here; User:WorldTraveller101/Martin Richard, I can help you expand that one if you want, also there's a link here to my article creation page here: User:JackFrost2121/Articles, so if you want to work together on articles, please do tell me as I would be really happy if you do so. I have already created 4 articles over the last two days so don't worry about bad track records such as my articles being deleted because of A1, G6, G11 excetera.
- Hemisodorcus arrowi my newest one.
- Great northern tilefish probably my best one.
- Latouchia swinhoei needs more references to support it.
- Miomantinae maybe more refs.
- Rhynchocinetes uritai just created
Sincerely: JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 11:38, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Resilient Barnstar | |
After being blocked, shouted at, and disputed by some editors, you started to work really hard, reverting vandalism, and everything, as far as I can see from your contributions all your work is great, but nobody recognized your effort... Until Now JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 12:06, 20 May 2013 (UTC) |
STOP UNDOING MSP AIRPORT!
Why are you undoing an edit on Minneapolis St Paul International Airport? The original change you are referring to is valid. The line is now called the Metro Blue Line. Do your homework before you undo someones edit. Now you are hounding me about vandalism??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.81.190.25 (talk) 11:32, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- He didn't hound you, he simply gave you a level 1 warning on an edit war, do yourself a favor and search up what vandalism is. You are simply trolling. JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 11:38, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Did anyone notice that the IP's edits are actually correct? The Hiawatha Line has been renamed the Blue Line. Although slow edit-wars are not acceptable, neither is the mindless reversion of an actually correct addition, simply because "it's been reverted before" (✉→BWilkins←✎) 11:48, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Actually the IP was right, but edit wars are unacceptable on both sides no matter if you are right or wrong, I'll go ahead and fix it. JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 13:07, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- A few things to remember:
- 1. IP 216.81.190.25, if you want to prove your correct (as other editors had previously reverted such info), either a) add an inline source or b) state where you got the info from, such as the link.
- 2. Also, that was not hounding at all. As [likely] all of us have learned before [including myself], making accusations like that is actually a violation of policy. Hounding and vandalism are serious accusations, as neither did I hound, nor did you make vandalism. However, you un-reverting is the base of an edit war. I've seen it all before.
- Thanks guys for the help. Sincerely, WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 23:43, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Before you start biting into the ip for edit warring, just remember you made just as many reverts as the ip and edit warred just as much also so don't act like you're superior. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 00:18, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Um...how is this biting? He was edit warring by reverting. I'm not at no fault here, but if the IP had just a) added the source or b) stated the link in the edit summary, then I never would've reverted. Also, I wasn't saying I was 'superior'. I would've stopped reverting and had gone back if someone hadn't have piped up that the information is actually correct. Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 00:36, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, re-review things WT101 - you're actually the edit-warrior in this situation ... there's also no need for another source when a simple click on the wikilink would have shown you that. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 00:40, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:BITE#Common_newcomer_errors and read the whole thing too. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 00:44, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Um...how is this biting? He was edit warring by reverting. I'm not at no fault here, but if the IP had just a) added the source or b) stated the link in the edit summary, then I never would've reverted. Also, I wasn't saying I was 'superior'. I would've stopped reverting and had gone back if someone hadn't have piped up that the information is actually correct. Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 00:36, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Before you start biting into the ip for edit warring, just remember you made just as many reverts as the ip and edit warred just as much also so don't act like you're superior. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 00:18, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- A few things to remember:
- Actually the IP was right, but edit wars are unacceptable on both sides no matter if you are right or wrong, I'll go ahead and fix it. JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 13:07, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Did anyone notice that the IP's edits are actually correct? The Hiawatha Line has been renamed the Blue Line. Although slow edit-wars are not acceptable, neither is the mindless reversion of an actually correct addition, simply because "it's been reverted before" (✉→BWilkins←✎) 11:48, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- WT101, if I remember correctly, you've gotten yourself into some trouble in the past for vandalism-reverting issues. I believe you are acting in good faith, but I still think you should be very careful when undoing edits. I'd say you should restrict yourself to 1 revert in any situation and don't hesitate to ask me for help when you aren't sure what to do. AutomaticStrikeout ? 00:47, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, Bwilkins, I reverted before the page was moved, so while I could've looked it up, but a source would save a lot of time and unnecessary argument. Although after checking, the page was moved. Thanks guys and I hope we can all move on. Sincerely, WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 01:27, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- It was in the first sentence of that page. It doesn't need to be in the title. And a split second google search would have saved a lot of time and unnecessary argument. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 01:38, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, Bwilkins, I reverted before the page was moved, so while I could've looked it up, but a source would save a lot of time and unnecessary argument. Although after checking, the page was moved. Thanks guys and I hope we can all move on. Sincerely, WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 01:27, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- User:AutomaticStrikeout is correct, as WorldTraveller has made a few good faith mistakes here and there, what I suggest is that you take a break from vandalism reverts and start creating articles, and completing your courses first. You can assist my efforts in article creation, or I can help you with your current article(More Information is on the post above your barnstar). Cheers JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 01:43, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- WT101, I know it took you quite a while to learn the ropes to the extent you have here, including what is a valid source and what isn't. In fact, it took you long enough that you gave yourself a fresh start with your current account. Thus, have some empathy for new editors! This is a clear case of an anonymous and presumably inexperienced editor (216.81.190.25) seeing something that was no longer accurate and fixing it, exactly what we encourage editors to do. As you should remember, new editors don't know about referencing standards, so saying that the anonymous editor should have provided a source and implying that the lack of a source justifies your failure to check the facts is errant pedantry.
- Sources are important, but they're a tool to make Wikipedia accurate. When you see something plausible but unsourced from an anonymous editor like this in the future, I recommend that you make some effort (10 seconds is more than it would have taken in this case) to research the edit before reverting. My experience is that a majority (though certainly not all) of edits like this are actually factually correct, particularly when the edit summary you undid explains that this is a change in the name of the line. Remember that sources of basic facts are only needed if a fact is challenged. Citation needed tags are also helpful if you doubt the veracity of a claim. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 02:00, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- To be honest ASHill, this user shows great empathy for new users (Like Me), and respects them, nor is he too bitey, as I haven't noticed that on my side, but he can be rough around I.P editors, I told him to take a breather and stop doing anti-vandalism work until he has completed the courses given to him by AutomaticStrikeout, I also told him to start working on article creation, as it helped me learn on how to use Wikipedia. Cheers! JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 02:21, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Article creation might be a good place to improve and help you. JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 02:22, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Connor, it is indeed anonymous editors on which I keep encountering this issue; they're generally new too! I do appreciate your efforts and resulting improvement, which are certainly notable. However, once again, I echo the common refrain that you refrain from anti-vandalism work until you've got the hang of Wikipedia more. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Understood! Also I think it's time this argument comes to a close, I doubt WT101 will reply now because he lives in the eastern time zone area according to his clock on the top of his page. Cheers! JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 02:56, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks guys. This thread and all above will be archived soon. Thanks guys. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 11:11, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Understood! Also I think it's time this argument comes to a close, I doubt WT101 will reply now because he lives in the eastern time zone area according to his clock on the top of his page. Cheers! JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 02:56, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Connor, it is indeed anonymous editors on which I keep encountering this issue; they're generally new too! I do appreciate your efforts and resulting improvement, which are certainly notable. However, once again, I echo the common refrain that you refrain from anti-vandalism work until you've got the hang of Wikipedia more. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 02:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
San Francisco International Airport
Hello WorldTraveller101, Could I just draw your attention to the recent edits made on the San Francisco International Airport? A editor who seems to specialise in reverting correct infomation is getting close to edit warring. Do you know of an Admin whoo specialises in airports/airlines who could take look at this? Regards, David J Johnson (talk) 23:21, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hmmm. Clearly just a content dispute. Get consensus at talk before reverting. See WP:3RR. This states that no one can revert more than three times on a single article within a 24-hour period. Luckily for you, you are at 1, and User:Tim Zukas is at two. I gave him a warning for edit warring, as he was nearly blocked for a similar edit war at Newark Liberty International Airport.
I personally can't help much more than to warn him with harder words, since he had 'warred many times before. For you, this is basically your general reminder to not 'war. Don't revert again. If he is removing other things you dislike, bring it to the article's talk page to get some consensus. Thanks for notifying me, David. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 00:42, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help. My only concern was that the amount of edits should have gone for discussion on the Talk page first. I have to say that this user seems to think he always right without developing consensus and that is not how Wikipedia operates. Best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 09:59, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- You seem to demonstrate understanding of the policies quite well. He has been in trouble (nearly blocked) for the same thing. The only reason he didn't get a block is because he didn't hit 3RR. Thanks for the notice. I'll keep an eye open. Sincerely, WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 21:12, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for all your help, which is much appreciated. I think I've been around Wikipedia for long enough to understand the policies and that is what prompted my intervention Kind regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 21:20, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm sure you both know this already, but just for the benefit of anyone who doesn't, be aware that editors can be blocked for edit warring even if they did not breach 3RR (even on articles that don't have lower thresholds set by other means). --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:26, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
SyndromeOfADown
I'd note at the SPI that that account's been blocked (although, to be fair, it was the socking more than the username. I think it or one of JY's other socks that has a similar name was reported to UAA sometime back, and the consensus (such as it was) was that it was not offensive enough to block on sight (I've seen that on T-shirts), but that someone could and should gently persuade him to request a change. Daniel Case (talk) 02:30, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- Understood. However, this user is extremely persistent on his talk that he isn't. I get the sense that there is surely some chance of him not being a sock. However, his recent contribs were so similar, that it wasn't a bad idea to block just to be surr, but the real answer falls on Checkuser. I 'll request soon, but I'm on my iPod, so it's harder to edit in any view. Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 02:36, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- Not a problem. Daniel Case (talk) 02:40, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
against adminship
I personally am against the adminship of of ChrisGualtieri. He may be helpful in alot of articles and editors but most definitely not impartial and I fear will only abuse his administrative power. In the past (recent) he was quick to call editors troll, make personal attacks and claim others to attack him. Uses WP:NPA whenever it suits him not realizing WP:BOOMERANG hurts his accusations. This editor is NOT ready to be an admin yet.Lucia Black (talk) 08:56, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- You know what, WorldTraveler101, I do welcome your favor, but this editor is the reason why I think I have to reconsider. Lucia Black is only going to spout slander and lies. Here is the relevant discussion, from my talk page. The RFC concerning Lucia's planned deletion campaign (self assert by Lucia Black) is open at the pump. I think that has to be dealt with before proceeding. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 13:29, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- I've posted a little more at my talk page. Sorry to split it. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 13:47, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
For the past few months edit war between me, ryulong and chrisgualtieri about splitting content, even though no consensus was in his favor, he continued to disrupt. And eventually gave up. I'm no saint, but what I say is the truth. Not lies and not slander. I have User:knowledgekid also bringing him to ANI for personal attacks against me. Its 1 thing to admit wrong in the recent past, and attempt to say theyve changed, but thats not the case here.Lucia Black (talk) 16:27, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- I've taken this to ANI. Sorry, Worldtraveler, but I used the diff of this in the posting. You are not a party to it, sorry to have accidentally dragged you into something like this. I wish I could have your thoughts on the matter, but I'd understand under the circumstances. These allegations are false and I can easily prove it. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 17:50, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
How? The comment history is there. For ghost in the shell, you edit warred 3 times ok n the same subject and consensus was against you. If it wasnt for each ANI, you wouldve continued ti edit war. You have called me a troll at least twice. You try to use NPA fir the same reasons I use NPA against you. Proving what ive said isnt going to disprove what youve said.Lucia Black (talk) 18:39, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- I think I'm going to wrap this one up. Chris, perhaps you should wait a little while. Thanks for the advice, everyone. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 19:21, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
I cant prove it the exact same way Chris does. I dont have a computer. It would literally take me a whole day to find all these links and copy and paste them using smartphone because it doesnt always copy and paste in the area I want it to. Still, that doesnt mean proof is non existent. History pages of talk:Ghost in the Shell, talk:Ghost in the Shell (manga) talk: List of Ghost in the Shell chapters and even talk: Dragon Ball was uncalled for. WT:ANIME also shows where knowledgekid attempted to push Chris in ANI, in which I wasnt for nor against. Still, proof is easy access for you. I dont think you actually need me to provide specific links. In all the ones that hes involved in also shows his own comments Lucia Black (talk) 20:13, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
A note regarding WP:DENY
Leaving messages such as this one on the talk page of an account blocked for sockpuppetry is not only unhelpful, it actually just serves to exacerbate the problem. Serial sockpuppeteers thrive on causing disruption and being noticed. By getting yourself worked up you're just playing into their hands. If you think you have identified a possible sock account, your best route is to open an SPI, present your evidence, and the to allow the clerks, admins and (if necessary) checkusers to review the evidence. After that just walk away and deny the attention-getter any further recognition. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 22:08, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm sorry. I'll admit that this is not a case I've seen before it was quite frustrating. I've found the ANI thread he's talking about (see Archive 797, thread 66). He however, only says he's one of those people. I also requested Checkuser in the JY SPI case, since he was a suspected sock of him. Thanks, Ponyo. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 22:27, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
An accusation?
I understand you've accused me of sockpuppetry or some other nonsense?
Would you care to explain this? ChakaKongtalk 00:20, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm really sorry if it isn't you. TheSyndromeOfaDown said that his sockmaster was from ANI archive 797 thread 66. I was really just guessing, not accusing. Do you know who it might be? Thanks and sorry. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 00:23, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- It isn't important to see who the sockpuppeteer is after being blocked. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 00:28, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- I am completely unfamiliar with any of this and would very much prefer to be left out of it. However, I couldn't help but notice that User:Steelbeard1 is involved, and that particular user is one strike away from a block for Wikihounding me. Anyhow, good luck. ChakaKongtalk 00:35, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- The problem is, that sockpuppeteer could be creating more sockpuppets. This is just a small step. We're unsure as to whether or not it is a banned user, Jonathan Yip or someone else. Like I am, I'd move on, and let Checkuser figure it out. I'm sorry you got in the mix of things. Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 00:32, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Also, I saw the edit summary you posted for the recent change and the answer is: Edit conflict. Apparently, you and I were editing simultaneously. Thanks and you can move on, as I suggest you do. Steelbeard is an unlikely candidate. Thanks for the info. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 00:43, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- @ WorldTraveller101: Now that I've had an opportunity to read through all this and figure out what's going on, I feel I might actually owe you an apology, as it was User:TheSyndromeOfaDown who dragged my name into this and not you. It appears he was feuding with Steelbeard and decided to mess with Steelbeard's head by linking himself to me. There is an interaction ban which Steelbeard must abide by, and he was likely trying to bait him into violating it. ChakaKongtalk 01:48, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Also, I saw the edit summary you posted for the recent change and the answer is: Edit conflict. Apparently, you and I were editing simultaneously. Thanks and you can move on, as I suggest you do. Steelbeard is an unlikely candidate. Thanks for the info. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 00:43, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- The problem is, that sockpuppeteer could be creating more sockpuppets. This is just a small step. We're unsure as to whether or not it is a banned user, Jonathan Yip or someone else. Like I am, I'd move on, and let Checkuser figure it out. I'm sorry you got in the mix of things. Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 00:32, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh thanks. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jonathan Yip for more information about this, but basically here's what's going to [likely] happen:
- If Jonathan Yip is indeed the sockmaster [according to Checkuser], then TSOaD would be indef site-banned, if approved with consensus. Or something else could happen:
- The user is messing with us and the sockmaster is unclear. From that thread, it is unclear who the sockmaster would be, so if it is a negative from Checkuser, then further action will be decided and we'd have to wait to site-ban TSOaD until the sockmaster was found.
- Thanks for the apology. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 01:59, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- I hope you get it straightened out. I'd keep an eye on it but after a month of being Wikihounded, I've more than had my fill of conflict here. Take care. ChakaKongtalk 02:22, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Good idea. Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 02:24, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
MSP Airport AGAIN
Will you please stop undoing my edits. What is your problem? These are factual edits. You can easily Google these numbers from the DOT website. You seem to have a problem with people doing edits. You and I have butted heads before and you were proven wrong. Stop trying to fact find everything and leave things alone. You take the fun out of updating and no I am not edit warring you as you have accused somebody else of doing on the MSP Airport page a few days ago. Oh and I see you were proven wrong once again on that one too. You seem to have a history of undoing peoples edits that are completely factual. Let people do edits without the fear of you undoing them or accusing them of...well whatever you think of. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.97.173.202 (talk) 14:49, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Um...I looked this one up and did not find anything. No source was provided. If you hate me reverting "factual" edits, then lets add a [citation needed] tag. Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 14:53, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Also, you're fairly new to Wikipedia, but from the way you worded your comment, you make it sound like you think you win something by being right. Anyway, PROVIDE THE SOURCE IF IT IS RIGHT! I update stats myself and mine aren't reverted because I provide a usable source. Just think about that. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 15:15, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- A source has been added. I will try to be more proactive in giving sources. Sorry about the harsh words earlier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.97.173.202 (talk) 15:32, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- No big deal. But just keep that in mind for the future, so your constructive edits won't be reverted. Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 15:39, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- A source has been added. I will try to be more proactive in giving sources. Sorry about the harsh words earlier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.97.173.202 (talk) 15:32, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Talkback
Hi Connor, you have new messages at your ms.wiki talk page! Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 14:54, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Haha thanks. . WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 15:07, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Not Vandalism
I suggest you read this again! Wikipedia:NOTVAND --JetBlast (talk) 17:21, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- What edit? If you're talking about this edit, then yes it is. This exact same edit was reverted as vandalism less than 48 hours ago. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 17:23, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- No this edit. Just because someone see's things different from you doesn't make it vandalism. --JetBlast (talk) 17:25, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Didn't say it was vandalism, although it could be if it is repeatedly added. Main point: these are the names that are always used on Wikipedia. I tables, it doesn't say New York-John F. Kennedy or Boston-Logan, it says New York-JFK and Boston. Thanks, JetBlast. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 17:29, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- No this edit. Just because someone see's things different from you doesn't make it vandalism. --JetBlast (talk) 17:25, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- I says "TO NEW YORK-JOHN F. KENNEDY. IT IS REFFERED TO AS NEW YORK-JFK. SUCH CHANGE IS CONSIDERED VANDALISM". Such change is not vandalism. You have been told before my multiple users about incorrectly marking things of vandalism. You clearly haven't read Wikipedia:NOTVAND, i suggest you take heed. --JetBlast (talk) 17:37, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Also, edits made by suspected sock of banned user. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 17:57, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Still not vandalism. Just because someone has been happen for being a sock puppet doesn't mean the edits they made are vandalism. For example when you got a 1-week block for the exact same thing, where your past edits vandalism?? --JetBlast (talk) 18:03, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- I thought these names were previously were agreed upon. Am I wrong? WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 18:04, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Not sure, but thats not the point. It wouldn't be vandalism. --JetBlast (talk) 18:13, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Let me tweak it and close up discussion involving this. Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 18:14, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Not sure, but thats not the point. It wouldn't be vandalism. --JetBlast (talk) 18:13, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- I thought these names were previously were agreed upon. Am I wrong? WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 18:04, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Still not vandalism. Just because someone has been happen for being a sock puppet doesn't mean the edits they made are vandalism. For example when you got a 1-week block for the exact same thing, where your past edits vandalism?? --JetBlast (talk) 18:03, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Also, edits made by suspected sock of banned user. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 17:57, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
This edit was absolutely not vandalism. Do not label such edits as vandalism, and do not accuse the anonymous editor of "making unhelpful edits" in such cases. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 02:08, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
May 2013
Hello, I'm Vigyani. I noticed that you recently removed some content from WP:ANI . You can not delete text once added from ANI, especially others contributions. if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! When we go to ANI, conduct all the involved parties is examined. So it is not something new if people are comment on you. Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 18:35, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Not about my wrongdoings. It's a proposed site-ban for a different user. Not sure why you don't get that. It belongs at my talk. Will not fight over this. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 18:37, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- It may sound like boasting (sorry for that), but I am much experience editor, worked on number of articles, have reverted much more vandalism then you. So I know very well various WP policies and its purpose and methodology. You have been to ANI previously and you should know the reporting editor is also subjected to critical examination (you have personal experience). And I do not understand why you are so afraid of discussing your own wrong doings.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 18:50, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm afraid because right now, (I've stopped with the admin stuff) I'm trying to improve my editing and the ANI thread is [unfortunately], has a chance of blocking me again, although I'm trying really hard to do good and I've agreed to do as told. And indeed you are much more experienced. Thanks for the help though. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 18:54, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- It may sound like boasting (sorry for that), but I am much experience editor, worked on number of articles, have reverted much more vandalism then you. So I know very well various WP policies and its purpose and methodology. You have been to ANI previously and you should know the reporting editor is also subjected to critical examination (you have personal experience). And I do not understand why you are so afraid of discussing your own wrong doings.--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 18:50, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments. Such edits are disruptive and appear to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 18:39, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Vandalism?! Whatever, I'm not willing to deal with this anymore. I've got better, more useful things on Wiki, so let's close all arguments. Let's all not focus on the ANI thread. Whatever happens will happen. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 18:41, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- All users involved with this discussion is partially incorrect, yet WP:HOUNDING a user is not very nice, and I am noticing that is occurring on both sides of the discussion, firstly WorldTraveller101 try not to get a user banned when he/she is already blocked as some users will clearly not like that as it shows that you are hounding that person, and don't stress out too much on this issue, just try not to be too bitey. Secondly Vigyani I would give this user a break, I know he has been blocked before for similar reasons, I don't want to see a conflict erupt (Though I know you are correct in this case). Thrildy, WT101 I wouldn't remove or modify content from discussion pages, it clearly isn't the right thing to do, someone put in their time and effort to type their opinion on things. I heard you have a great knowledge on airports, why don't you make articles on those instead of vandalism work? Please the last thing I want to happen is to see you blocked. JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 19:46, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- JackFrost2121, I am sure that you must have noticed that worldtraveller101 deleted a section of messages from the ANI noticeboard. I gave him a simple level1 warning cum notification for that. do u mean to indicate that just because he has been blocked previously or out of the fear that a conflict might erupt, he should have not been notified. I have not said anything to him for possibly hounding an already blocked user (as it is more like feeding a troll). It was just a plain routine notifications. I am sure you can also check that on few previous occasions also he has deleted messages from pages he was not supposed to. He was already left without notification that time. JackFrost, ANI is a very sensitive area. I have seen some very old and very prolific contributor with edits more then 50,000 being examined there. So one must have very strong reasons to go to ANI. Already a checkuser was going against that sock, so an ANI was unwarranted and waste of others time. Previously I suggest him to find someone to adopt him and I have noticed that AutomaticStrikout has adopted him. Before going to ANI, worldtraveller should have consulted AS. Btw, I notify/warn him whenever he crosses the line. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 00:55, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- All users involved with this discussion is partially incorrect, yet WP:HOUNDING a user is not very nice, and I am noticing that is occurring on both sides of the discussion, firstly WorldTraveller101 try not to get a user banned when he/she is already blocked as some users will clearly not like that as it shows that you are hounding that person, and don't stress out too much on this issue, just try not to be too bitey. Secondly Vigyani I would give this user a break, I know he has been blocked before for similar reasons, I don't want to see a conflict erupt (Though I know you are correct in this case). Thrildy, WT101 I wouldn't remove or modify content from discussion pages, it clearly isn't the right thing to do, someone put in their time and effort to type their opinion on things. I heard you have a great knowledge on airports, why don't you make articles on those instead of vandalism work? Please the last thing I want to happen is to see you blocked. JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 19:46, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- I've moved on and am letting the community give their 2 cents. Thanks, Jack.WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 19:55, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- What?! Are you leaving or are you going to work on articles from now onwards? Very confused now.JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 19:58, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh no. I'm moving on from the TSOaD incident and going back to content. Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 20:01, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- That's the spirit! Cheers! JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 20:08, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
WT, I just declined your application for Rollback. See my comments there because I think it would be a good idea if you left adminy stuff to more experienced editors for a while. (I also saw your recent message on Dennis's talk page). Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:19, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Premature archiving
Hi Connor,
You archived a bunch of comment threads that were less than 12 hours old, including one thread that had a comment 17 minutes before you archived. What's the rush? I can't imagine why comments less than a few months old need to be archived on a talk page with this much traffic. In particular, I was trying to find the helpful comment by an anonymous IP to aid in tracking down statistics references for Minneapolis-Saint Paul International Airport. Archiving so quickly fragments discussions and makes it harder to find comments I knew were made very recently.
(I know I've mentioned this to you before, and I still don't understand the rush.) —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 01:27, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
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Re: Trouted
Haha, I also don't understand Malay yet. And, what's JK? Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 03:30, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- JK is just kidding. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 12:04, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Again?! STOP!
You reported an ip to WP:AIV as seen at this perma link. These edits are NOT vandalism and are correct. A 10 second search of Japan Airlines' website confirms they offer those routes. STOP continuing to erroneously mark editors as vandals. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 03:32, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- That's not vandalism, why was it even reported? Please don't get too bitey on the I.P editors, sometimes they are our greatest asset, they can do a lot for Wikipedia like only 10% of them actually attempt to vandalize the site, the rest help contribute. Thanks JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 03:47, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
FORMAL REQUEST
Hi WT. I'm afraid that this time it's an official request. While we appreciate your enthusiasm (and you appear to have done some good work catching a sock), you are still getting things wrong far too often. This just makes more work for experienced editors and admins, and that's not the way for us to combat backlogs and get things done smoothly. Too many errors are considered WP:DISRUPTION and if it persists it can be met with a block.
You have some experience of ANI already and I'm sure you don't want to be on the receiving end of a complaint there. Please just continue to do your best work by adding content to the encyclopedia for a while.
I'm therefore asking you officially to STOP working in maintenance areas now until you have successfully completed a mentoring programme, and I or another admin has reviewed the results. I'm sure you understand, and if you need help with anything, don't hesitate to ask me. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:07, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- Does my adoption and CVUA training count? WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 17:57, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- You can edit where you like, but please just stay away from page patrolling, vandal patrolling, AN, ANI, AIV, AfD, PERM, etc., and other site management areas until you have completed your adoption programme. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:05, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Diplomacy not Mindless Warnings and links to Wiki help pages
For Ramaksoud2000
Ramaksoud2000,Though you may be correct on this issue I don't think this is the right way to solve problems, shouting at this user is only going to make problems worse for everyone, the only way to do this is a democratic way to teach him whats right and wrong, be kind to this user, don't shout at him or accuse him of things exctera, remember were not being fascist dictators here, Wikipedia is a democratic society.
- Democracy is "a form of government in which all eligible citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives." What do you mean? Also, as a sort of off-topic note, Wikipedia isn't a democracy, see WP:Democracy. (I know it doesn't apply in this situation.) Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 04:40, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, well that changes things a lot, and I improperly worded my statement, I meant diplomacy not democracy, I only wanted a diplomatic soloution to this ongoing problem, WT101 and many other users will not read those massive help articles and need direct and specific help. Sorry for the misunderstanding. JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 04:56, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- Which massive help articles are you referring to? I personally and neither have I seen other editors intruct WT to read massive help articles. However I believe WT has read various policies and guidelines as he frequently cites them word for word, as I addressed in this ANI thread Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 05:05, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- What frustrates me most about WT101 is that many different editors have advised him of specific objections to his behavior and yet the same behavior continues. A mistake once is expected; the same mistake again is fine; the same mistake half a dozen or more times after repeated notes is not. WT101, there are many editors here who would be happy to help you. Just ask questions before acting in an area you've had issues with before. In particular, echoing the formal request above, I recommend that you issue no warnings at all without checking with a more experienced editor for at least a few weeks. There's never a rush to issue a warning; it can always wait, and if the editor's actions really are disruptive enough to merit administrative action, someone else will notice it sooner or later. That's partly what the adoption program is for, among other things. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 05:12, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- Ramaksoud2000 I am referring to a lot of help articles, you are doing the right thing there, and I appreciate that, but in some cases like WT101 we need to clearly explain to him on his talk page why his actions were wrong. When you try to explain it wrong you say: "WT101 stop what you are doing it constitutes as WP:HOUNDING", this works in most cases, but WT101 likes to have a sense of control in Wikipedia, a sense of superiority, so he may use this against some users quoting these statements. The only soloution is a diplomatic discussion. What WT101 has is a rare case of WP:DICTATOR, a sense that he has power over users, and tough warnings on IP editors, most of them are level 4im, the editors making mistakes are being warned to harshly, or even threatened a block, and so on. But when you guys give him warnings, he gets angry and won't listen, the idea of blocking this user is terrible, look at the other 85% of his contribs, they are constructive and make sense, blocking this user would ruin my day, and also lose a good contributor to Wikipedia, he has done a lot of work with articles relating to airports, reason why I awarded him that Barnstar. JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 11:59, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- What frustrates me most about WT101 is that many different editors have advised him of specific objections to his behavior and yet the same behavior continues. A mistake once is expected; the same mistake again is fine; the same mistake half a dozen or more times after repeated notes is not. WT101, there are many editors here who would be happy to help you. Just ask questions before acting in an area you've had issues with before. In particular, echoing the formal request above, I recommend that you issue no warnings at all without checking with a more experienced editor for at least a few weeks. There's never a rush to issue a warning; it can always wait, and if the editor's actions really are disruptive enough to merit administrative action, someone else will notice it sooner or later. That's partly what the adoption program is for, among other things. —Alex (ASHill | talk | contribs) 05:12, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- Which massive help articles are you referring to? I personally and neither have I seen other editors intruct WT to read massive help articles. However I believe WT has read various policies and guidelines as he frequently cites them word for word, as I addressed in this ANI thread Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 05:05, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, well that changes things a lot, and I improperly worded my statement, I meant diplomacy not democracy, I only wanted a diplomatic soloution to this ongoing problem, WT101 and many other users will not read those massive help articles and need direct and specific help. Sorry for the misunderstanding. JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 04:56, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
For World Traveller101
On the other hand WT101, when you report an I.P for vandalism make sure he has been given level 4 warnings ahead of time, look at the edit summary, and see if the editor has put in constructive information, Google it if you are not sure, if it is incorrect, you revert it marked as a good faith edit, not a disruptive one or vandalism. figuring out if its vandalism or not is simple, look for reapeating characters like; "dfdfsdfsdfs" or shouting like; "I HATE WIKIPEDIAAAA", or even profane language; "You Suck PINGAS". These would be classified as vandalism. Cheers! JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 04:14, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'm on a WikiBreak for school finals. Once again, thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 14:45, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
- You have exams too? man I hate those, anyways I wish you luck on your exams! Cheers JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 15:18, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
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Please don't
WP:IPBE is given very rarely. I don't think you should have suggested it to User_talk:Sanjay_Balotiya - he was asked to produce the block notice so that we could see the underlying block. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 09:39, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
WT, I'll just remind you that the OFFICIAL REQUEST above applies also to commenting on or about blocks. repeat: anything to do with the management of this site. I hope you understand, because I would hate to see you up in front of ANI which would almost certainly end in a topic ban or a block. Please concentrate on adding/editing content and your adoption programmpe. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:11, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
- WT101, did you listen to me and kudpung? I told you to start working on articles more often, and stop anti vandalism work for now, I don't want to see you in ANI either. JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 11:31, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
- This was done before the request. I'm taking all of the suggestions above. Bwilkins, I apologize for suggesting something like that. And Jack, this was done before the request. Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 11:39, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
- whoops, ignore the comment above. Sorry :P JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 14:04, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
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Don't know if you celebrate it or not, but I didn't want to leave my adoptee out. AutomaticStrikeout ? 15:03, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm in the states and I have family helping out in the war, so absolutely. Thanks, AS. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 15:04, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
- No problem. AutomaticStrikeout ? 15:09, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
False Featured Article Topicons
You have four or five featured article topicons all with the same reasoning "Contributed significantly to maintain featured article rating", however, I have found that there are precisely zero edits made to Boeing 757, one of the topicons, with this account or your previous. I have not checked the others. What exactly are your intentions?
- Oops. Wrong one. Let me change that. BTW, sign your comment, Ramaksoud2000 WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 18:59, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
- I have checked all of them and you have made precisely zero edits to all. Please do not mislead in the future. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 19:53, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
- You removed all but one and made one edit to the one you kept consisting of five words. I will leave this be, however, do not attempt to inflate yourself and make yourself look superior. I am past the "please" stage. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 03:50, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- Perhaps it will be better to specify under which account you made substantial contributions to the FA in question. The 3 accounts declared by you so far are all created after Boeing 777 became FA. If you have put it by mistake, then remove it. If you put it because of the one edit you made at 777, then it is not really proper, as you see it invites lot of attention and contribute rather negatively on your image. Why don't you work on Logan International Airport, where you contribute regularly and work toward making it a FA :). --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 04:08, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hm. I put the message in the thing saying that I've made a few polishing edits. Let me work on that. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:01, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I had noted that, but the thing is when you take your cursor over to FA star, it says "this user has helped so and so article attain a FA status". Which is not correct in this case. the message you wrote remain hidden as the FA topicon template is not configured for "action". Plus, i think it is unfair to put that star even if you have made say 10 or 20 edits, if those edits have not affected the articles in a major way (assuming before becoming FA). It is better to remove that icon as is already mention, it is misleading. You seem to like those topicons :) ( you have auto confirmed topicon :P, all it need is 10 edits and 4 days). --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 11:01, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- You removed all but one and made one edit to the one you kept consisting of five words. I will leave this be, however, do not attempt to inflate yourself and make yourself look superior. I am past the "please" stage. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 03:50, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- I have checked all of them and you have made precisely zero edits to all. Please do not mislead in the future. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 19:53, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
PH-TKC incident
Regarding your revert of my edit on the Amsterdam Airport Schiphol article: I didn't just re-write the section because of the very poor writing, I also re-wrote it because the "extra" information was wrong. PH-TKC was not scrapped; it was repaired and remained in service with Transavia for several more years. The airplane is still flying today as G-LSAN for Jet2 Holidays.BabyNuke (talk) 21:37, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 21:56, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
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Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly. |
Sorry bro felt like it. JackFrost2121(Frostbitten?/ My Work) 01:00, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
- Aw darn it. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 12:58, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Sandbox
Apologies for not adding an edit summary, I have a tendency not to. As you may have gathered i removed a Project banner that should not have been left outside nowiki tags. The banner showed up in a maintenance category and was blatantly not referring to any aviation article so I removed it. And DO NOT use my name in jest in future!--Petebutt (talk) 20:55, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Oh OK. Then that's fine. I was doing it to make sure that I wasn't going to screw up the format or the syntax. If I forgot to delete it, then feel free. Thanks, Pete. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 21:04, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
I say hi to myself
Bcuz I can Bahahahahahah. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 21:16, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Interested?
There's this anti-vandalism program thats a lot faster that twinkle, and actually finds the vandalism for you! I suggest you try using this tool, because you have almost 1000 edits in article space, search up STiki and download it. Thanks --PrabashWhat? 04:04, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Tagging
Please don't tag suspected socks who are indef blocked [4], or any suspected socks, really. The tags don't go on the talk page, and tagging is usually done by SPI clerks who have special scripts specifically to do this properly. Double taggings cause some technical issues with categories, but more importantly, it looks like grave dancing and is strongly discouraged. Dennis Brown / 2¢ / © / @ 04:52, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Oh OK sorry about that. Didn't intend grave dancing. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:03, 3 June 2013 (UTC)It was an accidental click. Must've hit some key. Sorry, Dennis. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 20:53, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Trouted
Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly. |
The message reads "Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly". You trouted me for no apparent reason and that was so silly. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 07:23, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Sorry
Was edit conflict, intent was to remove [5], not your vote. NE Ent 21:37, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- I figured, but no big deal. Thanks for the clarification. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 21:39, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
You ignored my comment!
Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly. |
Consider this trout-slap payback for ignoring the message I put in above, this is the third time you have been slapped by a trout in a week shame --PrabashWhat? 01:20, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Haha. I did see it. I'll ponder upon it. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 01:21, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Rollback?
How did you get rollback you didn't even request for that permission, anyways congrats! --PrabashWhat? 01:54, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:PERM/RW Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 01:59, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Hmmm that seemed pretty risky, you do know that rollback is a serious task right? mess up just a bit and you could mess up the whole page. According to your edit history roll back may be a bit tricky for you and there may be harsh criticism about it. PrabashWhat? 02:06, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- I plan to not use it much, except for multiple vandalism edits. Otherwise, I'd want to learn the ropes a little bit more. Thanks guys. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 02:10, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- I trust you for sure, are you ready to start practicing now with STiki? PrabashWhat? 02:26, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- I plan to not use it much, except for multiple vandalism edits. Otherwise, I'd want to learn the ropes a little bit more. Thanks guys. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 02:10, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Let me get thru this week. I'll set it up over the weekend. Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 02:36, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Please be very careful with Rollback - remember I only declined your previous request for the tool a few weeks ago. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:58, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Let me get thru this week. I'll set it up over the weekend. Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 02:36, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Absolutley. Like I said, I'm laying low with it until I've learned the ropes better. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 09:36, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
June 2013
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at User talk:WorldTraveller101, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:26, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Which comment? I didn't delete any. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 18:24, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Well, here are two examples of you editing other editors' comments: [6], [7]. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:53, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- I am so surprised on how you got rollback, I have more reverts than you and I don't have it! I requested it twice, but it was rejected because of one silly mistake that had nothing to do with rollback (CSD of a User Page) :P, then there's you who made lots more mistakes than me, got blocked 4 times, disruptive editing and you get rollback permisions. Admins what were you thinking?? You never even requested for rollback permissions on the request page! anyways if you make a mistake using the privileges, I will not hesitate to give you a trout-slap ;) --PrabashWhat? 20:16, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Well, here are two examples of you editing other editors' comments: [6], [7]. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:53, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
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A barnstar for you!
The Civility Barnstar | |
Your wise actions today at ANB, and you actually going to the person to get your rollback rights removed, is something only a few wikipedians would do. Today you proved your trustworthiness here! PrabashWhat? 23:51, 4 June 2013 (UTC) |
- Thanks. I actually didn't intend to get rollback, but last night, I had some second thoughts and decided that now was not the time. Thanks, PBASH607 WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 23:53, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah I fell like a complete jerk today, I never wanted you to lose rollback, I just wanted the admin who gave you the permission to know that is he doing the right thing there. Please slap me with a trout. --PrabashWhat? 23:56, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Only troutin' ya cuz u requested it Anyway, the admin did do it in the spirit of WP:AGF, but now isn't the right time. And don't feel like a jerk, you did the right thing. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 23:58, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
NAC close at WP:AN
This is part of the problem. When you are the subject of a discussion, you should not be closing the discussion, ever. That is the most basic rule of closing, admin or not. It seems you aren't familiar with the rules on closing, please don't do NAC closings. Dennis Brown / 2¢ / © / @ 00:10, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
My mistake. Truly accidental.Just trying to help. Sorrym, Dennis. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 00:11, 5 June 2013 (UTC)- I noticed you didn't include the bottom closing tag either, which would have screwed up the next discussion. I know you want to help with admin-like duties, but biting off more than you can chew can be frustrating for others and reflects poorly on your judgement. Just edit some articles, hang around, you will learn in time. No need to rush in trying to do things you aren't familiar with. Dennis Brown / 2¢ / © / @ 00:14, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
NAC at ANI
I'm not going to revert your closure, but you have been told several times in clear terms to stay away from admin areas until you can demonstrate an appropriate level of maturity and have completed your adoption course. I have been reasonably generous with you for long enough and this is absolutely your last warning. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:13, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Alright, I need your advice. I can't find any articles that need editing. All of the articles I like to edit have no edits necessary at the moment and ones I don't edit, I don't know enough about. Any ideas? WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 00:30, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- WP:RANPP (✉→BWilkins←✎) 00:33, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Every article does! also do you have an email where I can send you a personal message? --PrabashWhat? 00:34, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Just click on User ... e-mail this user (✉→BWilkins←✎) 00:36, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Every article does! also do you have an email where I can send you a personal message? --PrabashWhat? 00:34, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- WP:RANPP (✉→BWilkins←✎) 00:33, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- There are dozens of articles here that desperately need some help. I'm a co-ord on that project so if you need any help, don't hesitate to ask. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:51, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- I would note that your comment at AN was mistaken, KW and Eric get along just fine. You have mistaken the context in a discussion I was trying hard to simply end, hence my comment about jockeying for the last word. While not required to, since it was based on a mistaken premise, removal might be a good idea. Dennis Brown / 2¢ / © / @ 02:16, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. These are very delicate discussions and easily go off on tangents. I appreciate your judgement here. Dennis Brown / 2¢ / © / @ 02:20, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- No problem. I only wanted to close it out, since it is clear that nothing will be happening soon. I should've known better after the Jonathan Yip sock-bait incident...the drama kind of reminded me of that. Anyway, thanks, DB. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 02:25, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- I spent 5 years here before I started closing things. I'm not sure if it takes that long, but it does take a lot of experience in highly contentious discussions like this, and is typically best left to more experienced keyboards. It is better to eventually start with simple things. Dennis Brown / 2¢ / © / @ 02:32, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- No problem. I only wanted to close it out, since it is clear that nothing will be happening soon. I should've known better after the Jonathan Yip sock-bait incident...the drama kind of reminded me of that. Anyway, thanks, DB. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 02:25, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
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Closing ANI Discussions-I don't think so!
Smash!
You've been squished by a whale!
Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something really silly.
For trying to close a discussion, trouts are not enough for this punishment. --PrabashWhat? 01:02, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- The discussion was at AN, not ANI. Besides, I don't see a problem with the closure. AutomaticStrikeout ? 01:12, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- I shouldn't have because a) I was the user in question and b) I am known to not do well in those types of tasks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 01:13, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- No I think you are right in closing the discussion, BTW the whale was just me poking fun at you! --PrabashWhat? 01:23, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- I shouldn't have because a) I was the user in question and b) I am known to not do well in those types of tasks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 01:13, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- And you got mail
- I only closed it, because everyone was motioning towards it and NAC's are not a permission or a rarity either. Someone else could've done it, but there shouldn't have been a big deal over my closing it, but meh. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 01:27, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Your closure was in complete disregard of the official request I made to you. That said, your comments in other AN discussions are just stoking the drama, you'll get no kudos for making comments to, or about Eric. Like I said, although you are welcome to make constructive edits anywhere, please consider not getting involved in issues that are outside your knowledge of current or past events, and not within your level of maturity. I hate to say this, but I've given you a last warning already, and I'm fast losing my patience - I'm not quite as forgiving as Dennis. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:21, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- I only closed it, because everyone was motioning towards it and NAC's are not a permission or a rarity either. Someone else could've done it, but there shouldn't have been a big deal over my closing it, but meh. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 01:27, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
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Editnotice
User:WorldTraveller101/Editnotice is where your edit notice will be, I will make it for you now if you like it or not tell me as you can customize it anytime :D --PrabashWhat? 01:31, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- I see you have added it into your userpage, have you tried clicking "edit" on your userpage? --PrabashWhat? 01:41, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Editing other people's posts
There are very few times when it is appropriate to edit other people's posts - and this [8] isn't one of them. Don't do it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:18, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- There's a reason why I did it...it gave a more accurate explainatiom and the thread was about me. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 03:21, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, it was about you - which is one more reason not to do it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:25, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
If you revert that again, you will be immediately blocked.—Kww(talk) 03:29, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- OK. It is 23:30EDT, so Im heading to sleep. Thanks. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 03:33, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Just pointing this out, that edit WT101 reverted was my comment, and I don't mind you doing that at all, but those actions are disputed by other editors, I don't want you blocked, you've been doing a really good job with everything else, I notice that some users are hounding you --PrabashWhat? 03:53, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- That's another slip up. One more and I will block you for a week which will give you time to read up on some of our instructions and policies. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:56, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Considering that you had already been warned about editing other people's messages several times, and considering the number of warnings you have already had about other things, you have been astonishingly lucky to have got away with warnings over this. If others hadn't already decided to just warn you, I would certainly have blocked you. Also, considering that you have already had two week-long blocks, Kudpung's suggestion of just another week's block is truly minimal. Any more disruptive editing and I will be willing to block you, if nobody else does so first, whether or not someone has decided to give you a gentle warning. The first time you changed another editor's comment, it could perhaps have been considered an innocent error, but when you continue doing so after multiple warnings, either you know damned well what you are doing, or you are so unable to understand what you are told that you lack the competence to edit Wikipedia. Either of those justifies a long block. Similar remarks apply to the other problems with your editing: either stop doing things you have been told to stop doing, or expect to be stopped from editing at all. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:23, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Blackpool Airport
Hallo! I have noticed you edit a lot of airport articles and was wondering if you would fancy looking at a UK airport. Blackpool International Airport may only be a small airport but its got quite a lot of history and events. Overall the article looks great but there are quite a lot of parts without references. I have especially noticed the Accident and Incident section has very few references. I am from Blackpool and am really interested in finding out if these facts are true! (though i've set myself on a path of writing children's law articles instead.. much more boring!) If you are not too busy, I would really appreciate you taking a look and hopefully getting some references in the article! Thanks very much, ツStacey (talk) 14:18, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Sure. Of course, it'll need [citation needed] tags, which often allows for other editors to help out, since it's an issue. Absolutely, I'd love to help there. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 21:47, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thats great! Thanks very much. I am not normally a fan of putting tags on everything as I don't think it helps the readers experience; though airport articles are not normally my interest and so maybe it encourages the people who read this type of article to edit. Thanks again! I look forward to seeing the article improve! ツStacey (talk) 07:52, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
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- Cool, bro. WorldTraveller101(Trouble?/My Work) 10:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC) 01:32, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you so much! WhisperToMe (talk) 01:22, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- No problem. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 01:28, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Re: Adoption
Hi Connor, definitely no problem. However, I have not completed my adoption yet, and my progress is rather slow as I'm quite busy with other Wikiworks. But, perhaps I will try do my best to speed up, and I will use my adopter's (Rcsprinter123) materials, see how I can imrpove it, and so on. Occasionally if I need help, probably I will consult him (if he agrees to). However, let me confirm some details with him first before I confirm the adoption. Cheers. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 05:36, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- Hey. If you'd like, I can also help/adopt you. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 14:14, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- That'd be great. It'd be a good thing to complete. Thanks. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 14:26, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- When do we begin? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 14:48, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- See User:AutomaticStrikeout/Adopt/WorldTraveller101. I'm currently taking the Lesson 3 Test. I will create a new page for the adoption. Thanks. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 14:52, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- Also, see User:TheOriginalSoni/Adopt/WorldTraveller101. This is the new adoption page with all of my saved progress. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 14:57, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- Would you want to chat with me in real time on the IRC? I find that highly easy to work if we're both online. We can also have the lesson, if you'd like. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 15:01, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- Possibly. Do you think we could confine any further discussions to e-mail? Thanks. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 15:10, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Just come over at #wikipedia-en-help connect and we'll take care of everything there. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 15:15, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- Inform me whenever you'd like to begin your adoption. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 14:41, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- Did you see my progress (moved from User:AutomaticStrikeout/Adopt/WorldTraveller101? I'm taking Test #3 right now. I should be done by the end of the week and then it is Lesson 4. Thanks. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 19:21, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- Alright :) ping me when its done. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 20:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
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Revert on Dulles Airport article
Hello! Perhaps I am not well versed in the policies of the WikiProject Aviation and WikiProject Airport projects, but I don't really see the importance to have two pictures with (almost) exactly the same picture with (almost) exactly the same information on the Washington Dulles International Airport article. I'm not trying to hound you for the revert, but just want clarification on your reasoning. Thanks! JguyTalkDone 20:03, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- Eh. This article lacks photos, so the more the merrier, theoretically. There isn't extreme, hard policy. These types of photos aren't generally added unless the article lacks photos, which it does. Nothing you did. I appreciate the help. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 20:05, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
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Hey,
Just a heads up, if you link someone's name without adding a signature, they dont get a notification. Also, commenting on blocked user's talk pages, especially when it could enflame them more, is never a good idea.
Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 21:08, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- Hm, so that's how it works. The only reason I commented was because I was accused of sockpuppetry and wanted to see what was going on, as T13 has been on much longer than me, so I don't know what the base was. Anyway, OK. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 21:14, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- I hope you dont comment any more. Such replies will turn to make things more ugly that they are, and I would not want that to happen. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 21:19, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- No reason to comment any further. My 2 cents is there, nothing else is helpful [you're right]. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 21:21, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Watch it
Plip!
This is just a warning next time it's a whale.--PrabashWhat? 21:21, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- Haha. Never seen that before. Creative, dude WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 21:23, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Whale removed
I removed the whale you have me because it was slowing up my talk page, though I will not recover from the given injuries, I hope I don't get hounded for removing the whale! --PrabashWhat? 14:21, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
- It was a joke and yes, totally OK that you removed it. And you won't be hounded, either . Happy editing. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 19:06, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
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Sockpuppets
Please do not tag or modify tags to sockpuppets. This should be left to SPI clerks or admin. Others here have voiced concerns about your participation in these kinds of duties numerous times, and it should be clear at this point that you should avoid these areas. You are seriously risking a block by a number of admin by continuing to ignore good advice. Dennis Brown / 2¢ / © / @ 13:46, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry. I just noticed that there were a lot of confirmed socks listed as only suspected socks. I won't change it again. Happy editing! WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 13:49, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- It is the noticing of admin areas that is troubling a number of admin, myself included. You are obviously inexperienced which can be fixed with time, but it is your judgement that is troubling. Your insistence in helping with administrative duties after being warned with a block on more than one occasion will lead to a block if it continues. And the tag you added has been reverted because it is inferior to the existing tag and didn't have the link to the SPI investigation. This is what I'm talking about, you think you are helping when you are actually making things worse, which forces admin to have to take time to explain this to you. I've been as patient as I can but I'm on the edge of blocking you, and an admin may yet block you for this. Dennis Brown / 2¢ / © / @ 13:56, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
JFK Terminal 2 & 3
The gates in Terminal 2 have been renumbered from C60 to C70. You also reverted a lot of other edits saying Terminal 3 is still active. Respectfully it no longer is and that is why Terminal 2 gates were renumbered. Delta website JFK map and Port Authority flight status pages show the renumbering. Numerous news articles and Delta map state Terminal 3 is closed. You may want to look into this before you continuing reverting the changes. Skywayman (talk) 17:02, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- I know it is closed. I reverted the C60-C70 change because no source was provided. I didn't revert anything stating that it didn't close, as sources were provided. I did find the re-numbering thing, but next time, provide a source first-hand, so you don't get your factual, constructive edits reverted. However, I could not find a source when I reverted it. Thanks and apologies. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 17:06, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
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Lucia Black
I need your help, when I was trying to solve a conflict between Lucia Black and Chris, I was indeed the victim of personal attacks. She threatened me not to reply on her talk page or there will be consequences, I am now willing to bring her to AIN, see her talk page and the revisions. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Cheers! --PrabashWhat? 01:29, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Do you even know what a personal attack is? Its gaming the system if youre trying to make it look like a personal attack because the topic of that disccusion is about an editor.
- I have the right to ban anyone from my thread, I alsk have the right to say what I want, and I have the right to remove any form of content. Otherwise, if I didnt, User:Ryulong or any other editor with loose lips, wouldve been blocked along time ago.Lucia Black (talk) 01:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Lucia, you have had a history of making personal attacks. While Chris and Prabash might've upset you, personal attacks are not nor will ever be tolerated. Unfortunately Lucia, you might end up at ANI soon if the attacks don't stop. Thanks, Lucia. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 01:47, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Ill do you one bettwr, prove ive made a personal attack. In this situation. Ive a history 9f only 1 editor claiming personal attacks. And its the very editor in question. I find it hipocritical for any editor to use NPA and use the exact same debate tactics and then some.Lucia Black (talk) 01:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- @PBASH607:@Lucia Black:@WorldTraveller101: If everyone agrees in this situation, I could look into this matter, and try to resolve it? As a non-involved TPS, will be completely neutral towards either side when I look into it. Then we could all work together better, what say, everyone? :) TheOriginalSoni (talk) 02:11, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Agreed! I will soon comment at ANI created by WT101, but I tried making peace but I was threatened to leave her talkpage. --PrabashWhat? 02:20, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- You were not threatened to leave her talkpage: you were asked to leave it (as is their right) and warned that administrative action could follow, and yet you continued (✉→BWilkins←✎) 11:59, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
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Request reason:
I re-added it as a Level 4, because that was more appropriate and I did let him know about it. In the ANI Post about Lucia Black, I was trying to see if we could get some sort of a cool down. There was a reason to asking PBASH607 if I could modify it. He says that he has no problem, as long as he is notified and it is appropriate (in this case it was). On the other hand, I am truly apologetic and regretful if this caused major disruption, which it unfortunately might've made. Please remember that I did intend to help, and not hurt. Thanks. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 11:02, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Here's where you are wrong: the warnings on Lucia Black's page were not at all appropriate. You bizarrely have claimed that she's "hounding" PBASH simply because she asked him to stay off her talkpage. Wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong. He was hounding her by continuing to post there after she asked him to stop, and indeed should have been blocked himself. You simply took up the mantle, and fecked up badly on this case - period. Although you claim to be intending to help, not hurt, your entire involvement with Lucia Black has CLEARLY been intended to hurt one person: her. Competence is required, and you currently do not show the level of mature understanding to know when to act, and when to not act ... this was a wrong time to act, and policy is 100% against you on this one. Your failure to recognize the impropriety of even THINKING of acting was bad enough - combined with the fact that you have been told NUMEROUS times to NEVER EDIT SOMEONE'S POST EVER is actually the small part of this block (✉→BWilkins←✎) 11:21, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
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- That wasnt supposed to be an unblock request. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 19:07, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Really? You posted it followed immediately by an empty unblock request, which you then left on your page. Were we simply supposed to decline the blank unblock and lock your talkpage? (✉→BWilkins←✎) 19:09, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- That was accidental...seriously. I had a much better unblock request in the making. That was just to see I had the right format. Anyway, I need to think this whole thing out. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 19:20, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
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Request reason:
I am truly sorry for the regretful and embarrassing episodes that went on. When I posted to ANI, I really wanted an admin to help Lucia cool down, and perhaps, get some opinion from uninvolved users and admins. I am also extremely sorry for the accusations made. Some were big accusations that I should've known better first. The refactor was a poor decision on my part (although I did consult Prabash of such change) and I am seriously apologetic to all for my poor judgment and any possible disruption that arose, especially Lucia. My main goal when I'm unblocked is to continue to "pretty" my user page, increase my article-space edit count (I'm almost at 800, I want to reach 1,000 and start to increase to 1,500 ; 2,000 ; etc). I also promise that except for an apology, to leave Lucia alone [minus a WikiLove/apology] and to focus on getting various articles, such as John F. Kennedy International Airport to at least an A-class rating. I will avoid SPI, ANI, and AN for the most part, except for some instances where I make helpful comments (but those will be very scarce/rare). In terms of refactoring, I will consult the user and explain the change and they will decide if they want/think they need to change it. I am to not change it myself. Thanks for the reminders and I hope to get to constructive editing soon. Thanks. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 19:39, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Decline reason:
{{subst:Decline per lack of a compelling reason. Making your user page "pretty", upping your edit count, and editing the airport article can all wait a couple of weeks. I strongly suggest following Bwilkins's very good advice as the next block is likely to be indefinite, and it's up to you not to let that happen. I'm disinclined to unblock anyone blocked for something so egregious without a very very good reason, and none seems to be present.}} Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 12:31, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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- No, at this point there needs to be a promise to never ever refactor someone else's comments ... or even your own after someone else has responded to them (✉→BWilkins←✎) 20:09, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Added. It should say that I will consult user of what change should be made and they will decide if they will change it, that is not for me to do. Thanks, BMW. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 20:12, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Well, we'll see what the administrator who assesses your unblock request thinks, but I doubt that indicating that your two principal reasons for wanting an unblock are that you want to prettify your user page and that you suffer from editcountitis will cut much ice. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:18, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- And helping out articles. The ediitcount increase and pretty are secondary reasons. The GA is my goal. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 09:34, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- Secondary reasons? Then why did you describe them as "My main goal when I'm unblocked"? There is a danger that someone may get the impression that you are just saying whatever you think will make a good impression, rather than expressing your true opinion. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:45, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- When you was told to stay away from ANI, why did you ignore that? --JetBlast (talk) 09:37, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- The ANI was started by him but my actions led to this block. I became a complete dumbass and I asked for everyone's opinion on Lucia Black, I asked wether to stay back or start an ANI. To my surprise, WT101 starts an ANI and then started the Armageddon that led to him being blocked, so consider unblocking WT because this block is not right, I trust WT101 to start working on GA. It was what he was doing before I asked his advise. --PrabashWhat? 10:46, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- When you was told to stay away from ANI, why did you ignore that? --JetBlast (talk) 09:37, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- James, the GA was truly my main goal. The pretty user and edit count things would not gave been added if I were to be lying. Prabash, my apologies for the misinterpretation. Thanks guys and happy editing. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 10:59, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- By the way, someone might have failed to advise you of this ANI filing - I closed it early because I was (and still am) under the firm belief that this entire block needs to stand while you (metaphorically) "get your shit together" on this project. All you've done is "play about" at being an admin - which has included you putting your nose where it never belonged. Dealing with inter-editor issues requires tact, patience, and an actual understanding of policies: you have none of those, yet. Indeed, you have caused more problems than you have tried to resolve, and you have actually resolved none. Yes, you need to work on articles - period. Nothing else. No comments at AN/ANI - don't even read it. Don't even read WP:AN/3RR ... or indeed, any forum that begins with "administrator". You need to recognize how close you are to an indefinite block at this very moment - which you clearly don't get. Competence IS required, even though you "mean well". Your activities are starting to remind me of someone else - I'm going to have to think back before checking with a CU. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 11:17, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- I found out about the ANI post via e-mail. Also, at this point, I am not sure what I need to prove to get unblocked. I already promised to stay away from the admin areas and I showed my good intentions. The GA thing is content creation. What do I need to do to get unblocked, because at this point, I'm out of ideas. Someone help out, please. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 19:19, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- What you need is a level of maturity appropriate for working on Wikipedia and with the people here. The impression I get is the you are a fidget who won't take the teacher's advice, but who runs to report everyone else's misdeeds. You current block is short but your block log is getting longer, and I hope that when your current restriction ends, you will stick to editing article content and staying out of trouble. In my opinion however, at you current age, that might take a couple of years. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:55, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- I found out about the ANI post via e-mail. Also, at this point, I am not sure what I need to prove to get unblocked. I already promised to stay away from the admin areas and I showed my good intentions. The GA thing is content creation. What do I need to do to get unblocked, because at this point, I'm out of ideas. Someone help out, please. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 19:19, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- He's got a couple of weeks. In internet time, that's lots. Apparently. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:03, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- For Everyone: I am so sorry about the disruption I've caused. My excuse is that I've been so caught up on exams that I kinda lost it. Letme finish exams and I'll be back when block expires. Thanks guys. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 22:58, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Yeah seriously, Connor, I advise you to STOP requesting for unblock for this one. You have been blocked again and again for the same old mistake, including this block you are serving right now, and that is absolutely enough for any admin to decline your unblock. IMHO, the admin who blocked you (JamesBWatson) is a wise and reasonable guy, and definitely has a valid reason whenever he decides whether or not to block someone. Moreover, the admins have given you enough repeated warnings for your old mistake. I am not able to review your unblock request, but I also share the other admins' sentiments. Anyway, you have already admitted that you are feeling troubled and that is disturbing the way you edit Wikipedia, your edit count, behavior and so on. So, why don't you just take 2 weeks off (or should I say wikibreak) and study well for your exams. At the same time, think how you want to edit Wikipedia properly in future and how you can prevent yourself from getting an indef block. Then, come back fresh on the 26th of June. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 14:36, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Attempt for Understanding
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Request reason:
I would like to once again say that I am extremely sorry for all disruption that occurred and I personally would like to move past this. I'd love to get back to airport articles and helping out there. I'm currently setting out to try and get some of the airport articles to GA-class (most are B-class right now) and would like to help other topics I'm familiar with. I also will abide to the following conditions: * I will take advantage of my CVUA and my adoption more. I will get more guidance, try to resolve problems by getting advice, etc. * I will not refactor talk pages, such as tags, wording, etc. If I want something to be changed, I will ask the editor who made the comment/warning if they are willing to change it. I will only add if needed. * If I am having trouble with a problematic user, I will go get advice from more experienced editors. * I will not work with SPI, ANI, etc until I have a better grasp for all of those areas (but that won't be for a while. * If I notice a problem, such as User:BostonConnor101, who was created by a banned user, User:Jonathan Yip and was clearly trolling/impersonating me, I will get help from an admin and have them do the real work. I appreciate all of the wonderful advice given. Thanks everyone and happy editing. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 12:36, 15 June 2013 (UTC).
Decline reason:
Declined per your withdrawal of the request - the pattern of similar problems means that you were probably unlikely to find an admin willing to overturn it anyway. There's good advice above - you obviously have plenty to contribute to the encyclopedia, you just need to take some time to seriously think about which aspects of your contributions are helpful, and which aspects aren't. With some more thought, you may well do far better at helping the encyclopedia, and avoiding getting yelled at, once you're back. Best wishes. ~ mazca talk 15:28, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
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Per comments above, I have withdrawn my unblock request.
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Work to Do
Though you may be blocked from editing, you may still prepare to do some nice contribs after unblocked. Im going to take some of my time to do this for you. Consider this my private tutorials for you, it may seem similar to a Adoption course but it goes more in depth and fuun stuff.
- The course page can be found here: User:WorldTraveller101/Prabash's All in one course tell me when you want to start Cheers --PrabashWhat? 02:46, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Huh
You go to Lexington? That's cool. I've been to a few debates there, I think. Well, I don't believe we've been introduced, but I noticed we have a bit in common, including living on the North Shore, a fondness for travel, and an occasional habit to get ourselves in trouble at ANI. But, anyways, as an expert giver of unsolicited advice, I thought I'd drop by and say hello. I see that some users have been complaining about your maturity... having reached the oh-so-mature age of 17 myself, I can tell you with some certainty that if I'd started editing Wikipedia when you did, I'd've gotten myself into far more trouble than you have. So... two weeks is a lot of time to think, and the weather's supposed to get nice over the weekend, so I hope you can make the best of this block. It's tough to avoid getting sucked in to some of the darker parts of Wikipedia, but if you learn from your mistakes then you'll come out of everything mostly unscathed (although, if you're anything like me, you'll probably have some nights where you're going to sleep and suddenly realize "Oh, I sounded really dumb in that discussion over such-and-such"). — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 05:11, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
- Haha thanks. I'll be at LHS next year . I can say with certainty that I am probably one of the youngest ages for regular Wikipedia editors. I definitely have been hitting a wall lately . Between final exams and various state and national track and field meets and 5K road races, I've just not been myself, especially on Wikipedia. I think I tried to bite more than I could chew and perhaps a WikiBreak was actually a lot better of an idea than I thought it was. I still have math, history, and Spanish exams, but luckily, Science is done. And yes, I'm going to the last school dance tonight and then I still have friends and family to hang with. Thanks for the message, PA. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 19:36, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
- I can say with absolute certainty that you are indeed NOT one of the youngest ages for regular Wikipedia editors. You're perhaps one of the least mature ones (as recently evidenced not only by your behaviour overall, but also by your continual unblock requests when it's been recommended that you do NOT request unblock on this one). We shouldn't have to babysit you as much as we are. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 13:29, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
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- BWilkins that's not nice, he's a human too you know, that comment constitutes as verbal bullying, I oppose bullying, he may not be mature on wiki but its also not mature to explicitly call a user the least mature user on Wikipedia. Please be nice he just got blocked and is going through hard times. Thank you. --PrabashWhat? 15:17, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
- Agreed. Also, I've listened by striking out my vote. BMW, there are probably younger editors, but I'm on the younger side for regular, constructive editors. Most of the regular editors are at least 3-4 years older than me. Also, an immature editor would not have withdrawn an unblock request. BMW, just drop it for hell sake. The UBR is withdrawn, no point in contniuing with pointing out wrongs, rather let's all move forward. Happy editing. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 15:28, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
- I made my comment on your behaviour BEFORE you withdrew it - I certainly would not have piled on if it had been withdrawn beforehand. I've bent over fricking backward to work with you on moving forward (and I have kept every single e-mail you sent to me [far too many, by the way]) - such comments as you're making towards me are a fantastic "thank you" (✉→BWilkins←✎) 15:33, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
- Both of you should now move forward, the more time we waste here a Polar Bear dies, Bwilikins you may want to let WT101 be there is no time to expel your anger on the issue. Admins are very important figures on Wikipedia and you are one of them! . WT101 just listen to his advise and read the policies a bit more. --PrabashWhat? 15:42, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
- I made my comment on your behaviour BEFORE you withdrew it - I certainly would not have piled on if it had been withdrawn beforehand. I've bent over fricking backward to work with you on moving forward (and I have kept every single e-mail you sent to me [far too many, by the way]) - such comments as you're making towards me are a fantastic "thank you" (✉→BWilkins←✎) 15:33, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
- Agreed. Also, I've listened by striking out my vote. BMW, there are probably younger editors, but I'm on the younger side for regular, constructive editors. Most of the regular editors are at least 3-4 years older than me. Also, an immature editor would not have withdrawn an unblock request. BMW, just drop it for hell sake. The UBR is withdrawn, no point in contniuing with pointing out wrongs, rather let's all move forward. Happy editing. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 15:28, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Advice
Hello again, WorldTraveller101. I blocked you, but I didn't then leave it at that and forget about you. I have kept coming back to this page, and I have read every word of everything that has been posted here since I blocked you. I would not have bothered to spend my time doing that if I thought you were just a disruptive editor with no chance of being helpful. I am 100% sure that you have good intentions, and I am 100% sure that you have the potential to be a very useful Wikipedia editor. Who knows - maybe one day you will even make a good Wikipedia administrator. However, you have been trying to run before you can walk. When I saw your latest unblock request, I actually considered accepting it, because you really do seem willing to hold back from doing the things that have caused problems. However, I could see that consensus was against an unblock, and when I thought about it some more I decided it was probably better to let the block run its course. You have the potential to be a constructive editor over a period of years, if you choose to, and two weeks out is a minor blip. However, perhaps the knowledge that you are being forced to take a two-week break has focused your mind on the issues surrounding your editing, in which case it has been helpful. You have been given a lot of good advice, and I have nothing really new to add, but perhaps I can add my own emphasis to something that has already been said. Concentrate for now on what you are best at, which is editing articles. A lot of other things are also important, including dealing with troublesome editors, but right now you should keep away from those things. How long does "right now" mean? Impossible to say, but at least six months, and very likely a couple of years. That may seem like an impossibly long time, but it isn't. It was about three and a half years between when I created this account and when I got rollbacker rights, and not far short of four years before I became an administrator (and longer than that if we count from when I started editing anonymously, rather than from when I created an account). I didn't spend that time itching and fretting because I couldn't do everything, I just got on with doing what I could, which was mostly making very small improvements to articles. When I eventually did become an administrator, I believe I did a better job of it because I had built up a lot of experience of how Wikipedia works while doing small things.
Finally, let me emphasise a point I have already mentioned. I would not have spent my time writing this unless I thought that it might be helpful to an editor who has the potential to become a very useful Wikipedian. Just take it one step at a time, and don't try to do things that you are not yet ready to do. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:24, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
- Like (✉→BWilkins←✎) 19:32, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
- Like Dennis Brown / 2¢ / © / @ 19:37, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
- Like I agree. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 19:43, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
- Like Sir you are a champ! --PrabashWhat? 19:47, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
- Like Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 07:58, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
A Note to everyone from WorldTraveller101
Hi guys,
Words cannot describe my appreciation for the advice everyone has given me. James is spot on in saying that I have potential to be a great editor [and perhaps an admin someday], but right now, I'm biting more than I can chew. I agree, as being a useful Wikipedian is indeed my goal. Getting an article to GA, A, FA-class, etc is indeed a good goal since it is content creation...it helps the reader understand.
In terms of my block, as much I would've rather had 10 days (since exams run until Thursday and then Friday is a cool down day), but 2 weeks is 2 weeks and there is no point in arguing further. Also, there were some other editors who probably supported an unblock, but plenty opposed, so I also agree there. Quite frankly, I still have Spanish, math, and U.S History exams this week. Friday, there is school, but nothing happens really...just make-ups and report cards. After that, my block will almost be up.
Thanks for the advice guys. Happy editing. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 19:59, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
A request from WT101
Hi guys. I noticed that User:Anna Frodesiak has an RfA ending approximately two days before my block expires. While I'm not going to argue for an immediate unblock, is there any chance I could be released two days early so I can put my voice into it? I will not go to/work on ANI, SPI, etc...but RfA is where the community votes and I generally like to vote. I'd like an unblock on a few conditions:
My request is as followed:
I would like:
- To be unblocked at 20:00 23 June 2013 on the conditions below:
- 1. I will abide to all agreements from the withdrawn unblock request (the blocking admin agreed with it, but hesitated for a few reasons, and I withdrew it (see above for why))
- 2. I will remain in the RfA's (only for voicing and occasional, very rare questions if it is just so direly needed), article space, user, and user talk for a while. For ANI and SPI, I will contact admins/very trusted Wikipedians for advice or help.
- 3. My exams end 21 June and 22 June-20:00, 23 June would be used to finish thinking about what specific things I can do to improve.
- 4. I would've already served 12 days, which in my opinion, will likely have been enough time (I thought about my editing over the weekend real hard and know that whenever the block expires, I am ready to take everyone's advice and show how I've improved and what capabilities I have as a constructive editor.
Thanks guys. Happy editing. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 19:49, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- Are you kidding me? Please tell me you're not at all serious (✉→BWilkins←✎) 20:09, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- Doesn't seem so earth-shatteringly awful to me... --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:12, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- @WorldTraveller101 it is all part of the punishment, you only have yourself to blame in missing out. --JetBlast (talk) 20:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- This is not punishment - we're also holding him at his word: he promised no more unblock requests. He promised he'd GO AWAY for 2 weeks ... and what do we get? He's back requesting to be unblocked. He's clearly not trustable to keep his word (✉→BWilkins←✎) 20:15, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- Have you not seen above at all Bwilkins? Come on, seriously? Do I not at all show desire to improve? This seems perfectly fair. When I'm unblocked, I will show you, Bwilkins, that I have thought about and will improve as an editor. And I'd agree, Demiurge. 12 days will still give me (and so far has) sufficient time to think about it. And lol Demiurge, we got an edit conflict Cheers. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 20:16, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- One's word as a person is the only thing one is really worth: you've broken your promise - so what does that do to your worth? Since you broke THIS promise, the ones above are as hollow as my chocolate Easter bunny (✉→BWilkins←✎) 20:20, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- Once again, echoing User:Demiurge1000, how awful can it be? Do I not intend to improve? And Bwilkins, enough with the rude comments. They're getting old. Arguing and bickering with rudeness won't help. Read all above again carefully. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 20:25, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- Bwilkins, if I am causing you that much aggravation to the point where you are screaming in all caps "GO AWAY", then maybe you should cool off. Also, I don't think I'm being unreasonable, or am I? WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 20:18, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
Everyone enough! Before anyone (especially Bwilkins) starts posting angry comments again, let me remind everyone of a few things:
- I am requesting the block to expire at 20:00 23 June 2013, a little more than 48 hours before it is supposed to expire, so I sill have about 6 days to go.
- I have promised to follow the terms above created by me.
- Anyone who hasn't already, carefully read what JamesBWatson posted.
Happy editing. WorldTraveller101BreaksFixes 20:31, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- No means no. Blocked means blocked. Your talk page editing rights have been withdrawn. Nick (talk) 21:54, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- WT, FWIW and just so that you understand: Nick has withdrawn your talk page editing rights just as I was about to do so myself - I had left your talk page open on my computer and was called away to a domestic matter. When I came back, Nick had already done it. At the risk of repeating myself time and time again here, you have demonstrated once again that you do not understand our rules, regulations, and policies, and rather than being punitive, your block is to give you time to read up on those policies and decide if you are mature enough to continue editing at all; and if you can't, the admins will make that decision for you by blocking you to prevent you from continuing to work in our management areas where you have certainly not shown enough knowledge to be able to do it without making a mess of it.
- And just for the record for anyone else here who does not understand why WT has been blocked, I strongly advise them to read the second paragraph of this page. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- I had written a fairly lengthy explanation of why I removed access to the talk page and e-mail functionality, frequently and repeatedly asking for unblock requests on your talk page and via e-mail is disruptive behaviour and an extension or continuation of the behaviour for which you were already blocked for.
- I was actually very close to extending the block to an indefinite one because of this [9] but it's non English Wikipedia so I have ignored it for the purposes of altering your block.
- It does show me that I gave you advice at the start of May which has been completely ignored, other administrators gave you advice both before and after I proffered my opinion and their advice has been similarly disregarded. So, here we go for the final time, and this time it's blunt and to the point, sorry if it offends.
- You are not going to become an administrator for several years, you have a fairly extensive and troublesome block log because of your persistent disruptive behaviour, your attempts to become involved in the running of the project cause considerably more trouble than they solve (or could ever hope to solve) and you show very little of the necessary knowledge, attitude and general experience needed to get involved with helping other users. You've got a deletion discussion running where you're badgering those who wish to Keep the article and it all points to the biggest issue, one you've continually promised to address and have made startlingly little progress on - writing - you're not writing enough and unless you write and collaborate you'll never build the experience you need to be an effective administrator.
- We are here to write an encyclopedia, make it bigger and better, add in sources, remove libelous content. You've got more edits to your User pages than you do to the encyclopedia, you've got many more edits to User Talk pages than you do to anything else, mainly giving cookies and WikiLove or whatever it's called. That's not writing an encyclopedia, that's using Wikipedia as a social network. And it'll sink your RfA within the first five minutes. Half my edits go on the encyclopedia, and I'd argue that's too low, your percentage is, frankly, not indicative of someone genuinely here to contribute to the project...
- When your block expires, you're must get rid of all this crap in your user space, get a nice plain user talk page that is easy to understand and edit for users, and then get on with writing content, improving content and making the encyclopedia better.
- If you don't do that and resume editing as you have been done, you will be blocked indefinitely. It's worth pointing out, repeated unblock requests put additional workload on administrators - we would all rather be doing something more productive than spending yet more time turning down your fifth unblock plea and repeating advice we gave to you last month. In short, we cannot have people like you become a massive time sink. It's a very close call that you're not blocked indefinitely already - if it gets to that point, people will simply walk away. Sorry. Nick (talk) 00:34, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
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