User talk:Whutever1

Boxer C-UAS

Yes, I think that's a fair move. The C-UAS mission module is a 'grey area' right now. I cover it in text as best I can, but as recently as May 2023 Lt Col Boehnke noted that 10 Boxer EAAAD counter-unmanned aerial system (C-UAS) variants would be delivered in 2023–2024, and while I tend to agree with that Dutch story about Skyranger now being the preferred option..., I'm not 100% certain it will be. I know a bit can happen in over a year..., but that guy should know... Let's see how it progresses.

Oh and on the Slovenia subject, I did also intend to cut the entire Crystal Ball 'who might buy...' out the article. There's a Wiki rule/guideline somewhere I can dig out about all that crystal ball stuff, but I'll likely leave that until I have completed the tidy up all the current randomness in the article. It's full of my Wiki pet hate... Someone with a bit of product knowledge or interest will update a bit of text, with a cited fact, but they usually then can't be arsed to Control F the damn page to see what other mentions may exist that their update has impacted. It can be as simple as something like a 'will do/might do/could do/desires to' becoming a 'has done...', but it's so often more... SurfaceAgentX2Zero (talk) 13:38, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Accuracy of Homar-A description

Judging by press releases from Lockheed Martin and the Polish military, our current description of Homar-A launchers in M142 HIMARS is somewhat inaccurate. According to these sources, the term "Homar-A" refers not to HIMARS in Polish service generally, but specifically to vehicles produced in Poland under a partnership between Lockheed Martin and Polish defense manufacturers (Polska Grupa Zbrojeniowa (PGZ), Huta Stalowa Wola (HSW), WZU and MESKO) to mount HIMARS launchers on Jelcz 6x6 trucks. The article should be updated accordingly. Huntthetroll (talk) 00:06, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HuntthetrollI don't know, this paragraph from the second source you linked

"The currently implemented contract for the delivery of the first divisional fire module of HOMAR-A missile launchers, in the "American configuration", was signed in February 2019. As a result, the Polish Armed Forces will receive 18 M142 HIMARS combat launchers and 2 for training, along with a supply of GMLRS and ATACMS missile ammunition and training ammunition (LCRRPR). The order also includes command vehicles, ammunition wagons and evacuation tractors, as well as logistic, training and technical support. Deliveries of elements for the first HOMAR-A division are currently being carried out and will last until the end of this year."

seem to indicate that M142 HIMARS are still referred by Polish MoND as HOMAR-As, just ones in "American configuration". Whutever1 (talk) 00:31, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, looks like we're both using Google Translate. It is possible that the writer of the Polish military press release was being slightly facetious—after all, the title appears to be "HIMARS as an appetizer – HOMAR-A as a main course"—in retroactively describing the standard HIMARS vehicles as "HOMAR-A...in the 'American configuration'", given that the current 20 HIMARS vehicles are to be supplemented by 486 launchers assembled in Poland onto Polish carrier vehicles. Then again, a writer for Defence24, a website that covers the Polish defense industry in detail, describes the name as follows:

Framework agreement approved by the head of the Polish MoD, Mariusz Błaszczak, envisages that 486 M142 HIMARS launchers would be procured for 27 rocket artillery battaalions[sic]. The procurement was codenamed Homar-A to make it separate from the acquisition of the South Korean Chunmoo systems. Poland is to procure up to 290 of those, named Homar-K.

See also the description at K239_Chunmoo#Homar-K. Huntthetroll (talk) 01:11, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]